OPINION: The State of the Cowboy WR Corps

Gryphon

Merge Ahead
Messages
3,407
Reaction score
31
Originally posted by doomsday_defense from another forum:

1. TO: No question marks here. He's one of the top 2 or 3 WR's in the game and still going strong. He does tend to get banged up and miss a game or two every year. Last year he got hurt at a bad time and it affected his performance and our offense in the playoffs. Can we count on him staying healthy all the way though to the post season ?

2. Patrick Crayton: He's a solid option at WR. However, he lacks speed and the ability to seperate consistently from top NFL Corners. He is a smart player and knows how to find soft spots in opposing defenses. To me, he's a great fit as a 3rd WR, slot player....but doesn't have the skill set that a Number 2 NFL Wideout should possess. I know we had a strong offense with Crayton as the Number 2 guy. But, with an upgrade at that position and 2 WR's who can beat 1 on 1 coverage consistently, our offense would be that much better with Witten working the middle of the field and our OL, MB3 and Felix Jones pounding the ball on the ground.

3. Terry Glenn: I can't buy all the talk of Glenn being a contributor next season. He's an undersized guy who relies on his speed to stretch the field and make big plays. The cartiledge is gone in his degenerative knee and there's no fixing that. Once a speed WR starts having knee problems it's game over. If we had a healthy Terry Glenn I'd love our WR corps. But we don't, and that is the problem. He may be a June 1st cut. If he's not, I don't expect him to last long next season if he's still in Dallas. That knee will blow up.

4. Sam Hurd: Had a nice rookie camp and caught some eyes. He has made some plays in limited time. Again, he's another marginally talented player physically. He doesn't have the speed to seperate from NFL Corners. He's a nice backup guy to have around but we need more than what Hurd has to offer us physically.

5. Miles Austin: He's got nice size and speed. But his hands are questionable, route running subpar and appears to lack concentration in crucial times. I like his physical skills, but feel he is too much of a project yet at this point. If his route running and confidence have improved, he could potentially give us the type of player we need. Someone that can hit the home run on the opposite side of TO. IMO, Austin is the X Factor in our WR Corps. He's one of the top 2 or 3 phycially talened WR's on team right now. But, based on how little we've seen from him so far, it's very hard to be encouraged he'll contribute significantly.

6. Isaiah Stanbeck: He was a college QB. He's got great size and speed and by all accounts is a heck of an athlete. But he's a work in progress. Did he go from novice WR to legit threat in 1 off-season ? That's asking a heck of alot. He's another question in our WR corps right now.
7. Danny Amendola: I love this kid. I hope there's some way he can keep him on our roster if he shows well in camp. It will be hard to keep a guy like him because we already have questions at the WR position but it's hard to ignore the type of player he could potentially become.

** Basically, if you look at our WR corps. TO is a legit Number 1 WR. Patrick Crayton would be considered a Number 3 guy IMO. If Terry Glenn was healthy, he'd be considered a solid Number 2 guy....but he's not. That's where the problem comes into play. We don't know as of right now that anyone can fill that Number 2 spot. It would sure as hell suck if we went into camp and found out none of these young guys are ready to step up. Because for me, they all have serious question marks surrounding them. I think if we add 1 legit, WR to this offense opposite TO, all our questions are answered and we are thee CLEAR cut favorite and best team in the NFC. Without one, we might be ok, providing TO stays healthy. But, that's a risky scenario considering we saw how bad our offense was last year when TO got hurt and missed some time.

So again, I know I'm beating a dead horse here. But I see Glenn being a June 1st cut and us picking up or trading for a proven vet WR. That puts Crayton where he fits best...and the Number 3 spot. And lets us decide between Hurd, Austin, Stanbeck, Amendola, etc......who we feel is the most worthy of continued development and 2 or 3 roster spots.
__________________
for more updates visit http://gryphononcowboys.blogspot.com/
 

starfrombirth

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,084
Reaction score
1,419
Sometimes, you've gotta just roll the dice. You can't have probowlers at every position. Sometimes you have to see what you have in the young guys. Sometimes players don't really develop until they start getting extensive reps in practice. So lets see. Besides, it's not like there are legit no.2 or no.1 wr's out there waiting to be picked up off the street. Right?
:starspin
 

This is Our Year

Ohama, Kill, 52 is the Mike
Messages
1,987
Reaction score
743
We're fine at WR we went 13-3 last year without Glenn. If he comes back the WR core gets better and so does the team.
 

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,835
Reaction score
103,565
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
starfrombirth;2100225 said:
Sometimes, you've gotta just roll the dice. You can't have probowlers at every position. Sometimes you have to see what you have in the young guys. Sometimes players don't really develop until they start getting extensive reps in practice. So lets see. Besides, it's not like there are legit no.2 or no.1 wr's out there waiting to be picked up off the street. Right?

It scares me to think of a 'Super Bowl or Bust' team "rolling the dice" at any position, much less wide receiver.

This team is loaded for bear (no offense big guy!) and I wouldn't want to see them stumble by not addressing every need that they can right now.

I don't think they can keep this assemblage of talent together for too long (as I'm not counting on an uncapped 2010), so I think they have to do everything they can to win it all now.
 

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,835
Reaction score
103,565
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
This is Our Year;2100232 said:
We're fine at WR we went 13-3 last year without Glenn. If he comes back the WR core gets better and so does the team.

Wade, is that you?

:confused:
 

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,835
Reaction score
103,565
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
big dog cowboy;2100238 said:
FWIW the mouthpieces on NFLN and ESPN are saying the same thing.

Wouldn't be the first time that I disagreed with the 'experts'.....

I disagree with anyone who thinks a 'healthy Terry Glenn' even exists anymore.
 

Hostile

The Duke
Messages
119,565
Reaction score
4,544
stasheroo;2100246 said:
Wouldn't be the first time that I disagreed with the 'experts'.....

I disagree with anyone who thinks a 'healthy Terry Glenn' even exists anymore.
Aw shucks, I'm not an expert.

:wink2:
 

ZeroClub

just trying to get better
Messages
7,619
Reaction score
1
The "need" vs. "want" thing is tricky.

The Cowboys needed OT when Rob Petitte and Torrin Tucker were the starters "protecting" an immobile QB.

A second #1 WR to go with Owens? No doubt, it'd be very helpful.

Is this second #1 WR a "need" in the Torrin Tucker / Rob Petitte sense of the word?

Absolutely not.

The second #1 WR is a "want." And it'd be great if it could happen.
 

TheCount

Pixel Pusher
Messages
25,523
Reaction score
8,849
The problem is if T.O. gets injured. And yes, most teams don't have another #1 if their current #1 goes down, but "most teams" don't win the Superbowl at the end of the year either.
 
Messages
371
Reaction score
9
I to agree that what we have may be lil better than what they are given credit for. Also I believe that with the addition of the new RB, which will open up a more dump off / screen to the back game (not to mention the TE's), I don't think we are in real desperate situation. This Year!! Also as stated before, there is not much on the street to pick from. We must remember, behind the scenes, JJ and the crew were trying to make some moves for a top WR. And quietly kept, there is still time if they feel like they do not have the best corp they can put on the field.
 

starfrombirth

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,084
Reaction score
1,419
stasheroo;2100234 said:
It scares me to think of a 'Super Bowl or Bust' team "rolling the dice" at any position, much less wide receiver.

This team is loaded for bear (no offense big guy!) and I wouldn't want to see them stumble by not addressing every need that they can right now.

I don't think they can keep this assemblage of talent together for too long (as I'm not counting on an uncapped 2010), so I think they have to do everything they can to win it all now.

I understand where your coming from and I agree with you for the most part. I would love to pick someone up that I "KNOW" could take T.O.'s place if he went down but the fact is that there aren't that many like him even starting in the NFL and there are none that are realistically going to be available. Given this scenario, we have to see what we have in the receivers that are already here. It's not that Jerry doesn't want to address the need at WR. There just aren't any options there to work with.... yet!

:starspin
 

Boysboy

New Member
Messages
4,852
Reaction score
0
TheCount;2100297 said:
The problem is if T.O. gets injured. And yes, most teams don't have another #1 if their current #1 goes down, but "most teams" don't win the Superbowl at the end of the year either.

Which is why I'm very mystified why, during the reg season, TO just gets so much flack and abuse on this board week in and week out during the reg season(even more so than Roy). Despite his incredible game against the Packers last year-somehow, majority of Zoners here tried to find reasons to rip him a good one(i.e. supposedly giving up on a block that prevented MB3 from scoring).
 

lspain1

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,372
Reaction score
33
We did very well last season with TO, Witten, Crayton and a cast of "others." Once TO got hurt, our WR's didn't scare many folks, IMO. While TO keeps himself in great shape, he is a year older and I think some lost time due to injury should be considered almost inevitable. I'm not convinced we can go all the way to the Super Bowl without better depth at the position.

Our current cast (after Crayton) consists of injured players, players with flaws, and projects. That doesn't sound 'championship caliber' to me. I hope Jerry is trying to get someone else. We'll see.
 

percyhoward

Research Tool
Messages
17,062
Reaction score
21,861
lspain1;2100412 said:
Our current cast (after Crayton) consists of injured players, players with flaws, and projects. That doesn't sound 'championship caliber' to me.
I agree. A trio of legit threats at WR puts this team over the top.
 

Clove

Shrinkage
Messages
64,894
Reaction score
27,491
I wish we could find a better #3 option myself, I like Crayton, but I just wish someone like Hurd or Austin, even Stanback would step up and move Crayton down to 4.
 

cobra

Salty *******
Messages
3,134
Reaction score
0
Crayton is so under-rated on this board.

He is a legit strating WR in this league. There are teams that would be lucky to get him. He has good size, very good hands, and runs good routes.

Yeah, his mouth is obnoxious, and, yes, he made a crucial drop at a bad time in the playoffs. But aside from those two things, he is a legit starting WR.

Too many people talk about him here as if he is garbage. He isn't.

Would be sweet to have Roy Williams lining up alongside TO? Yeah, that's be awesome. But how many teams can get two Pro Bowl-caliber #1 WRs on the field at the same time? Arizona, Indy and... ? Well, I guess Detroit with CJ and RW. Not really anyone else. Who were the NYG running out there besides Plaxico?

We can win with TO, Crayton and Witten being our top 3 recieving options. Would it be super sweet to have someone better than Crayton? Of course. But it isn't necessary. Nor is the under-valuing of Crayton by fans here because he isn't Roy Williams.
 

FLcowboy

When Jerry, when?
Messages
4,061
Reaction score
260
This is Our Year;2100232 said:
We're fine at WR we went 13-3 last year without Glenn. If he comes back the WR core gets better and so does the team.

Jason Witten eased the shortage of a premier #2 WR last year. Hopefully he can repeat his '07 year.

Austin I think is gone. He doesn't add much as a WR, and as a return man, look at the speed that was acquired in the draft. I think he was kept around with the hope he could harness his speed as a WR, and develop his catching ability. I think Amendola pushes him off the roster as the #6 man (project). Stanback becomes the project in waiting.

Glenn I think is kept around because if he can play, he really opens the field for T.O. and Witten. If he can't play, then I think he'll go on IR, and be done.
 
Top