Opinions on Christian McCaffrey

[Supercowboy1986]

Not for the Cowboys to draft, but in general.

I think he would be an amazing slot receiver.

 

[skinsscalper]

The kid is a dynamic player with the ball in his hands. I'm not so sure about him being a between the tackles type of runner at the NFL level and taking that kind of pounding on a consistent basis. Honestly, I think he's a bit like Peppers. A damned good football player with a bit of a question mark about where he fits in the NFL world.

His best fit is probably going to be in either a West Coast system or with Bill Belicheck. I'd love him in Dallas in the Lance Dunbar role but the investment would be too high for a role player. Someone will take him in the 1st or high 2nd and have a hell of a dynamic player but the cost is too high for us, unfortunately. I think the kid is going to be the penultimate swiss army knife type of player for someone. He'd be scary in Green Bay or New England.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

The kid is a dynamic player with the ball in his hands. I'm not so sure about him being a between the tackles type of runner at the NFL level and taking that kind of pounding on a consistent basis. Honestly, I think he's a bit like Peppers. A damned good football player with a bit of a question mark about where he fits in the NFL world.

His best fit is probably going to be in either a West Coast system or with Bill Belicheck. I'd love him in Dallas in the Lance Dunbar role but the investment would be too high for a role player. Someone will take him in the 1st or high 2nd and have a hell of a dynamic player but the cost is too high for us, unfortunately. I think the kid is going to be the penultimate swiss army knife type of player for someone. He'd be scary in Green Bay or New England.

I agree about the punishment and running between the tackles, which is why his skill set translate perfectly to a slot receiver IMO.

He's 5'11 205 or something. He will be exciting to watch!

 

[tm1119]

I think people are overlooking him as an actual RB. Stanford runs a power run scheme and he was just fine between the tackles. Maybe he's not going to carry the ball 20 times every game, but how many guys actually do that anymore? 5'11 200 pounds is hardly tiny. That puts him right in line with the Shady McCoy, Jamaal Charles, Brian Westbrook, Chris Johnson mold.

If I was a team with a need at RB I certainly wouldn't be drafting to convert him to slot WR.

 

[Setackin]

I would love him as a slot WR, Beasley and him would be nightmares for defenses.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

I think people are overlooking him as an actual RB. Stanford runs a power run scheme and he was just fine between the tackles. Maybe he's not going to carry the ball 20 times every game, but how many guys actually do that anymore? 5'11 200 pounds is hardly tiny. That puts him right in line with the Shady McCoy, Jamaal Charles, Brian Westbrook, Chris Johnson mold.

If I was a team with a need at RB I certainly wouldn't be drafting to convert him to slot WR.

don't get me wrong, I think he would be great pounding the rock on the ground. His vision and speed is nothing to scoff at. I think he would ultimately be more productive and preserve his longevity if he just do what he does as a slot WR. Just something about playing against grown men versus college kids will be a wake up call.

I don't have the data in front of me but the players you listed have missed significant playing time if I remember correctly.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I don't see him as a slot receiver. I don't think he has the pivot routes down for that. He actually reminds me a lot of Reggie Bush and that concerns me a bit although Bush was a solid pro, he just didn't live up to his billing.

The key for him is to be able to run the ball effectively against 7 man fronts and being able to consistently pick up the biltzes. If he can do that, then his versatility and matchup issues can really scare teams. If not, he's more or less a receiving tailback like a Duece Staley.

High end I can see him being a Brian Westbrook.




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[RS12]

Dont want him to end up in the division because he is the type of player that would give Dallas fits. Supposedly Elway loves him.

 

[Setackin]

I don't see him as a slot receiver. I don't think he has the pivot routes down for that. He actually reminds me a lot of Reggie Bush and that concerns me a bit although Bush was a solid pro, he just didn't live up to his billing.

The key for him is to be able to run the ball effectively against 7 man fronts and being able to consistently pick up the biltzes. If he can do that, then his versatility and matchup issues can really scare teams. If not, he's more or less a receiving tailback like a Duece Staley.

High end I can see him being a Brian Westbrook.




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You should YouTube his pro day, his routes are sharpe he would break ankles as a WR.

 

[tm1119]

don't get me wrong, I think he would be great pounding the rock on the ground. His vision and speed is nothing to scoff at. I think he would ultimately be more productive and preserve his longevity if he just do what he does as a slot WR. Just something about playing against grown men versus college kids will be a wake up call.

I don't have the data in front of me but the players you listed have missed significant playing time if I remember correctly.

Name a RB that hasn't gotten hurt...

Dalvin Cook weighed in a whopping 8 pounds heavier. Do you also want to move him to WR?

 

[Alexander]

Dynamic player, but not for everybody.

Put him in NE or NO, dangerous. Just hard for a team with the talent deficits Dallas has to justify considering at the player.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

Name a RB that hasn't gotten hurt...

Dalvin Cook weighed in a whopping 8 pounds heavier. Do you also want to move him to WR?

My fault for not being clear.

The rbs you listed, which are similar in stature to CM, have missed significant playing time due to what I believe is playing a traditional running back style, I.e. Running between the tackles. I wasn't insinuating that those were the only rbs that have missed significant playing time. When I say signifcant playing time, I am not talking 1 or 2 games, significant to me, is 5+. Of course rbs get injured, all players get injured. However, rb is a high contact position in a contact sport.

Also, I don't know who Dalvin cook is.

 

[tm1119]

My fault for not being clear.

The rbs you listed, which are similar in stature to CM, have missed significant playing time due to what I believe is playing a traditional running back style, I.e. Running between the tackles. I wasn't insinuating that those were the only rbs that have missed significant playing time. When I say signifcant playing time, I am not talking 1 or 2 games, significant to me, is 5+. Of course rbs get injured, all players get injured. However, rb is a high contact position in a contact sport.

Also, I don't know who Dalvin cook is.

I fully understood your point, and my counter is that weight is irrelevant up to a certain point because EVERY RB is going to get hurt at some point. Le'Veon, Demarco, Shady, Lamar Miller, Mark Ingram, Melvin Gordon, AP, Forte, Gurley, Martin...whoever you want to name, they've all missed significant time because of injuries. It's just the nature of the position. 10 pounds is not going to be the difference of McCaffery being able to stay healthy and not.

And Dalvin Cook is a RB from Florida State that is largely projected to go higher in this draft than McCaffery and there are zero people taking about him moving to WR. 8 pound difference

 

[tm1119]

I'll just say it...if McCaffery had a different skin color there would 0 talk of him needing to move to WR. White RB's scare people, no one thinks he will be able to do it yet there's no logical reason to think he can't.

5"11 205 isn't a deterrent for anyone else. And he's by far outcarried both Cook and Fournette the past 2 seasons (530+ carries) in a Stanford power running scheme...so what's the issue really?

 

[Supercowboy1986]

I fully understood your point, and my counter is that weight is irrelevant up to a certain point because EVERY RB is going to get hurt at some point. Le'Veon, Demarco, Shady, Lamar Miller, Mark Ingram, Melvin Gordon, AP, Forte, Gurley, Martin...whoever you want to name, they've all missed significant time because of injuries. It's just the nature of the position. 10 pounds is not going to be the difference of McCaffery being able to stay healthy and not.

And Dalvin Cook is a RB from Florida State that is largely projected to go higher in this draft than McCaffery and there are zero people taking about him moving to WR. 8 pound difference

I think I see the disconnect.

I don't believe CM would or should be moved to slot receiver because of his weight, or lack thereof, that was more of an observation/comment. My position with CM is largely because he is a dynamic playmaker and has excellent hands, speed, route running (as someone mentioned) and vision. Basically the kind of skills one would need to be an excellent slot receiver.

Also for the record, it has nothing to do with being white. Players are players regardless of color.

Does dalvin cook have similar skills to CM?

 

[phildadon86]

Dynamic player, but not for everybody.

Put him in NE or NO, dangerous. Just hard for a team with the talent deficits Dallas has to justify considering at the player.

I agree, however he would definitely be another 1st down machine for us.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

White.

 

[bpfred]

McCaffrey has a relatively slight lower body, making him more prone to injury. That, imo, is the reason people talk about 10 carries per game. That, mixed in with receptions, and returns, can help get him touches, and with receptions especially, help protect from the risk of injury. That lower body just ain't built to take hits from NFL DL & LBers.

Some people think he would be one of the best WRs in the draft, if he wasn't a RB.

 

[Avery]

I think he'll do just fine in the league. He would make our offense more explosive, but I'd rather not be playing in games that are 45-42 because of our defense. It's the same reason why I don't think TE is as high a priority in the draft as most would like it to be.

 

[Alexander]

I think he'll do just fine in the league. He would make our offense more explosive, but I'd rather not be playing in games that are 45-42 because of our defense. It's the same reason why I don't think TE is as high a priority in the draft as most would like it to be.

Another Escobar, no. But a blocking TE is pretty important.

We laugh about Swaim, but after he went down, the running game lost a little with Looney trying to supplement in the jumbo packages. This is a really good draft for TEs, we would be smart to take one because 2018 does not look nearly as strong.