Orton just wants to hold a clipboard

[Beast_from_East]

Anybody know why the dude skipped the first day of practice?

 

[erod]

Anybody know why the dude skipped the first day of practice?

Nope. It was "voluntary", but they're never voluntary for quarterbacks.

He either wants more money, or he wants to negotiate a way to retire without having to give back the $3 million of his bonus.

Mentally, I think he's checked out of football, regardless of what his agent says. Otherwise, he would have been there.

Do we really want a backup QB going through the motions just so he doesn't have to give back his signing bonus?

 

[Beast_from_East]

Nope. It was "voluntary", but they're never voluntary for quarterbacks.

He either wants more money, or he wants to negotiate a way to retire without having to give back the $3 million of his bonus.

Mentally, I think he's checked out of football, regardless of what his agent says. Otherwise, he would have been there.

Do we really want a backup QB going through the motions just so he doesn't have to give back his signing bonus?

Yea, for $3 million dollars he should have his arse on the practice field. Like you said, there are only a couple of reasons why he would blow off practice.

1. He wants more money because he thinks he might have to play more with Romo's back injury.
2. He has mentally checked out and just doesn't want to play anymore, despite reports by his agent he is fully committed.

My guess would be he wants more money in a new contract.

 

[Oh_Canada]

It's bubbled up again. I don't think Weeden would be here if the Cowboys felt confident about Orton returning.

Bubbled up by whom exactly?

 

[Beast_from_East]

Bubbled up by whom exactly?

By Orton blowing off practice?

Just saw a tweet from Calvin Watkins saying Orton was a no show today.

 

[dallasdave]

Maybe Orton heard there was a new GUN SLINGER in town.?

The new gun slinger is an ex-cowboy from Oklahoma State

 

[Nirvana]

NFL Network just said Orton did not show up for "voluntary" workouts and is still mulling retirement. Does this change your draft priorities if he retires before the draft?

 

[dallasdave]

Hey we got a cowboy from Oklahoma on the team now.

 

[CowboyStar88]

NFL Network just said Orton did not show up for "voluntary" workouts and is still mulling retirement. Does this change your draft priorities if he retires before the draft?

Nope I think they are looking at a young prospect regardless and BW was an insurance policy for this particular reason

 

[Nirvana]

Nope I think they are looking at a young prospect regardless and BW was an insurance policy for this particular reason

That's a questionable insurance policy however, unless we are pleasantly surprised. If Bridgewater or Manziel is there at 16, I think they should make the pick. Manziel is more of a gamble there, but Bridgewater should bring a nice reward for sure when it's time for him to play.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

He'll do a marfelous job holding the clipboard and acting as if he is involved in the strategy.

 

[dallasdave]

He'll do a marfelous job holding the clipboard and acting as if he is involved in the strategy.

Did someone say clipboard, clipboards, are WE TALKING CLIPBOARDS !

 

[CowboyStar88]

That's a questionable insurance policy however, unless we are pleasantly surprised. If Bridgewater or Manziel is there at 16, I think they should make the pick. Manziel is more of a gamble there, but Bridgewater should bring a nice reward for sure when it's time for him to play.

I have my doubts that Bridgewater could handle the spotlight of the Cowboys and the media pressure. Yes I he is gifted and talented but him being such a quiet guy it may not be a good gamble here. He would be better served in a place like Cleveland or Jacksonville where the spotlight and media aren't as heavy. But if JFB is there you take him if he's not I'm looking at a guy like Murray in the 3rd as I think he's one of the more complete QBs in the draft

 

[dallasdave]

BW for Oklahoma State is in the house and he is a Cowboy once again. Could this have anything to do with Orton's no show?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

WORST DEFENSE IN NFL HISTORY.

What part of that is hard to comprehend? Peyton Manning would have gone 8-8 with this squad.

I'm still discussing offensive production (and we weren't the worst defense in NFL history, we weren't even the worst defense this season: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef)






YR

 

[Yakuza Rich]

We win that game by three touchdowns with Romo. Orton wouldn't throw the ball more than 8 yards downfield. That game was held in check by the defense, and Murray was effective. A REAL quarterback would have won that game easily. Romo is, and Orton has always been Kyle Orton.

Orton threw for 356 yards at 7.7 yards per attempt and completed 65% of his passes. And he did it without a running game.

Romo had a running a game and in his last 8 games of the season he completed 59.6% of his passes for 6.7 yards per attempt.

It wasn't like Romo was completing passes left and right well downfield. He was very dink-n-dunk-ish this season and struggled with his deep pass accuracy all year long outside of the Denver game.




YR

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Orton threw for 356 yards at 7.7 yards per attempt and completed 65% of his passes. And he did it without a running game.

Romo had a running a game and in his last 8 games of the season he completed 59.6% of his passes for 6.7 yards per attempt.

It wasn't like Romo was completing passes left and right well downfield. He was very dink-n-dunk-ish this season and struggled with his deep pass accuracy all year long outside of the Denver game.




YR

It's funny that you can't figure out why Orton didn't have a running game and Romo did, even though everything else was the same.

Orton certainly played as well as can be expected under the circumstances, and I had no problem with his effort. But he threw 2 interceptions (Romo had 10 all year) and except for maybe 3 or 4 passes every single one of his completions went exactly where the Eagles wanted them to go. His lack of pocket presence and mobility forced him to throw the ball early, which meant there was virtually no chance at any kind of big play (on a secondary prone to giving them up). The 4th down play against the Skins that made the Eagles game even matter at all (a fairly routine one for Romo) could not have been made by Orton. Because he's Orton.

 

[erod]

Orton threw for 356 yards at 7.7 yards per attempt and completed 65% of his passes. And he did it without a running game.

Romo had a running a game and in his last 8 games of the season he completed 59.6% of his passes for 6.7 yards per attempt.

It wasn't like Romo was completing passes left and right well downfield. He was very dink-n-dunk-ish this season and struggled with his deep pass accuracy all year long outside of the Denver game.




YR

Dink and dunk. Seven yard pass on 3rd and 10. Ridiculous interceptions. Absolutely no chances taken at all.

The defense played OUTSTANDING, and if Romo played, it would have been a rout. Besides, Romo owns that team pretty much.

 

[panchucko]

Seems to me that Orton knows his role, he isn't going to come in and unseat Romo from the starting QB position. He does seem ready to come in at a moments notice.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Did someone say clipboard, clipboards, are WE TALKING CLIPBOARDS !

Evidentally and apparentlously.