OT Columbo...and OG Peterman...and BP

[TwoCentPlain]

BP thought about putting him in for Tocker but said something like "I've seen him practice." If Columbo's practices have been worse than Tucker's performance on Sunday then Columbo has absolutely no future.

BP said Peterman wasn't diverse enough and can only play one position and it is a problem when only seven OL suit up. BP is overcoaching here and expecting too much. Or Peterman is a bust like Jacob Rogers. Either way it is a bad reflection on BP. Let's see Peterman at OG.

The problems on the OL are solely BP's fault. He hasn't made the right FA signings, draft picks, and hasn't prepared the OL correctly, and hasn't come up with the proper game plan and adjustments.

And now BP says "I don't have a lot of options now." This is total BS. Just as BP expects players to fight through injuries and not make excuses, BP makes $4 mil plus/year as the highest paid coach, and should not be in this position in the first place and should find/have an option. No "built-in excuses" for the head coach either.

 

[chinch]

should we get Campo back?

your post is repetitive and redundant. we know our OL is horrible. That is on Tuna. However, he did reclaim Larry from the scrap heap (to be cut/traded) and Flo has played great (until he was lost for the season) when the "experts" here wanted him gone instead of re-signed. I guess it's Tuna's fault Rivera blew out a disc too right?

 

[silver]

Peterman is a bust. Him and Rogers are the worst linemen ever to suit up for the Cowboys in a regular season game. Did you see him during preseason? Why he made the team is beyond me. Probably because we spent a 3rd rounder on him. The way Rivera and Gurode have strugled this year had Peterman shown anything he would be playing by now. This is his last year in the league. We're just prolonging the inevitable.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Barry Switzer is working metal detectors machines at DFW.........he may be interested in a return?

 

[TwoCentPlain]

"I guess it's Tuna's fault Rivera blew out a disc too right?"

When Rivera blew out a disc trying to carry all that money BP gave him before even putting on a Cowboy uniform, then it is BP's fault.

 

[AbeBeta]

BP thought about putting him in for Tocker but said something like "I've seen him practice." If Columbo's practices have been worse than Tucker's performance on Sunday then Columbo has absolutely no future.

BP said Peterman wasn't diverse enough and can only play one position and it is a problem when only seven OL suit up. BP is overcoaching here and expecting too much. Or Peterman is a bust like Jacob Rogers. Either way it is a bad reflection on BP. Let's see Peterman at OG.

Columbo is what he is -- a guy trying to make a comeback -- the plan was to give him a shot to make the team next year. You can't expect anything from him this year.

Peterman -- not diverse enough. At first I thought that meant he didn't play both guard positions -- but I do not think that was what BP meant. As you note BP has been carrying only 7 linemen into games. At first the 2 extras were Gurode and Noll -- Gurode backs up Center and Guard, Noll backed up Guard and Tackle. After Noll was cut that backup spot eventually went to Columbo who is backing up both tackle positions. I don't think at this point it has anything to do with Peterman being no good -- only that BP has to have someone to backup at Tackle -- when he only carries 2 extra OL that has to leave Peterman out.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

"I guess it's Tuna's fault Rivera blew out a disc too right?"

When Rivera blew out a disc trying to carry all that money BP gave him before even putting on a Cowboy uniform, then it is BP's fault.

I hope this was a joke.

 

[Jarv]

I don't know...are the O-linemen we pick up a bust or is the offensive line coach a bust ? Eitherway, BP choose them both.

 

[jack2]

Peterman not diverse enough, only plays one position! tucker cannot play any, not left tackle, not right tackle, ben noll who inpreseason was parcell's pet project and played both tackle and guard is gone (guess he did not play any of them well!) he only needs to play one position!

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Honestly, I thought that "one-dimensional" remark about Peterman was a huge red flag, too, until I actually listened to the press conference. When I read it, I thought it meant that Peterman could only run block and not pass block, but what Parcells actually meant was that he could only play guard, not guard/center or guard/tackle. I don't think that's a bad reflection on his ability to play guard, which is what we need.

So let's not give up on him just yet.

 

[AbeBeta]

Peterman is a bust. Him and Rogers are the worst linemen ever to suit up for the Cowboys in a regular season game. Did you see him during preseason? Why he made the team is beyond me. Probably because we spent a 3rd rounder on him. The way Rivera and Gurode have strugled this year had Peterman shown anything he would be playing by now. This is his last year in the league. We're just prolonging the inevitable.

Let's just break this down.

Bust? No -- you can't be a bust if you were picked late in the 3rd round.

Kept him around because we spent a 3rd on him? BP has consistently shown that he'll cut his picks. In 2003 he cut Justin Bates (7th) at the start of training camp, BJ Tucker (6th) didn't make the team either, Zuriel Smith (6th)got sent packing as well. From the 2004 class, Crayton (7th) was cut -- twice I believe, as was Sean Ryan (5th), Bruce Thornton (4th), and some guy named Jacob Rogers (2nd).

Allen and Rivera have struggled. But given the inexperience at the tackle positions, BP likely feels he needs his vets in there.

I'm not saying that Peterman will amount to anything -- but your reasoning just ain't right.

 

[Zman5]

Barry Switzer is working metal detectors machines at DFW.........he may be interested in a return?

You guys want a "gun slinging" type of offense? Bring back Barry.

 

[te0002]

should we get Campo back?

What type retort is this? Is the choice ONLY between Parcells and Campo?

The reponse to everyone who criticizes Parcells of, 'Do you want Campo back?" is ridiculous and shallow.

You should address the issue instead of throwing out straw men

 

[jimmy40]

should we get Campo back?

What type retort is this? Is the choice ONLY between Parcells and Campo?

The reponse to everyone who criticizes Parcells of, 'Do you want Campo back?" is ridiculous and shallow.

You should address the issue instead of throwing out straw men

Anyone mentioning the name Dave ..... should be banned.

 

[te0002]

should we get Campo back?

What type retort is this? Is the choice ONLY between Parcells and Campo?

The reponse to everyone who criticizes Parcells of, 'Do you want Campo back?" is ridiculous and shallow.

You should address the issue instead of throwing out straw men

 

[silver]

Let's just break this down.

Bust? No -- you can't be a bust if you were picked late in the 3rd round.

Kept him around because we spent a 3rd on him? BP has consistently shown that he'll cut his picks. In 2003 he cut Justin Bates (7th) at the start of training camp, BJ Tucker (6th) didn't make the team either, Zuriel Smith (6th)got sent packing as well. From the 2004 class, Crayton (7th) was cut -- twice I believe, as was Sean Ryan (5th), Bruce Thornton (4th), and some guy named Jacob Rogers (2nd).

Allen and Rivera have struggled. But given the inexperience at the tackle positions, BP likely feels he needs his vets in there.

I'm not saying that Peterman will amount to anything -- but your reasoning just ain't right.

ok. so he's not a bust. what is he? a wasted pick? i believe the reason he's still here is that they don't want both him and rogers to be wasted picks. as of now rogers is still part of the team. he's on IR. i know the minute he passes a physical he'll be gone. (who knows maybe he'll sprain an ankle stepping on the scale and land on IR for one more year). Peterman's play in preseason was aweful. Even Ben Noll and Tyson Walters played better than him. Why do we keep shurning the roster at his position?

 

[AbeBeta]

ok. so he's not a bust. what is he? a wasted pick? i believe the reason he's still here is that they don't want both him and rogers to be wasted picks. as of now rogers is still part of the team. he's on IR. i know the minute he passes a physical he'll be gone. (who knows maybe he'll sprain an ankle stepping on the scale and land on IR for one more year). Peterman's play in preseason was aweful. Even Ben Noll and Tyson Walters played better than him. Why do we keep shurning the roster at his position?

I don't think his pre-season play was poor. He's basically a rookie coming off a major knee injury. When asked about depth on the line a few weeks ago, the first thing out of BP's mouth was "well, I think we've got a player at guard."

 

[Alexander]

In 2003 he cut Justin Bates (7th) at the start of training camp, BJ Tucker (6th) didn't make the team either, Zuriel Smith (6th)got sent packing as well. From the 2004 class, Crayton (7th) was cut -- twice I believe, as was Sean Ryan (5th), Bruce Thornton (4th), and some guy named Jacob Rogers (2nd).

Your logic is also flawed. None of these beyond Rogers was a premium round first day pick.

Rogers should have been cut last season and we hung onto him because of his status and even put off looking for help at right tackle in the preseason (when there were options) because we were hoping he would somehow grow a backbone.

Peterman is remarkably similar. We are hanging onto him, but he never plays. That is more than likely not wanting to admit yet another mistake in evaluation.

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

The offensive line is one cohesive unit. Replace one part, maybe you survive. Replace both tackles, (Petitti for the since-cut Rogers, Tucker for Adams), and you struggle mightily. What happens then is that your Pro-bowl OGs try to compensate by chipping the guy over his OT--Allen helping Tucker, etc. When this happens, then the OG's guy makes more plays, and he looks bad.

BPs' biggest mistake was drafting Rogers in the 2nd rd. Picking an OT that high puts a lot of dependence on the fact he will come around quickly. Rogers was known to be a wimp in college, but we took him anyway. However, that is water under the bridge. What is important is, what do we do now? What we DON'T do is pick up two more refurbishing projects like Columbo & Procter. Not for the long run, anyway, and I think that is just what BP plans to do.

I just don't see BP taking an OT with his first rd. pick. Which is why I don't think BP should be around next year. We need a coach who sees the importance of having a championship quality OL. With it, we won 3 Super Bowls. Without it, we have struggled terribly.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Peterman is remarkably similar. We are hanging onto him, but he never plays. That is more than likely not wanting to admit yet another mistake in evaluation.

Whoa, though, there is a major difference -- Rogers just got dinged and wasn't good enough all of last year, while Peterman had a pretty horrible knee injury that didn't allow him to come back for almost an entire year.

Who do you bench to play him? LA, a Hall of Famer, or Rivera, who you just paid a fortune?