Overshown and a 2nd contract?

[stinkface]

When was the last time we had a guy get paid a second contract and they over performed?

 

[G2]

Injuries are concerning.

 

[atlantacowboy]

There is absolutely no reason to offer Overshown anything. He's under contract for another year and has to show he can play a full season without a major injury. That said, look for Jerry to give him a 4 year deal.

 

[Scottishcowboy]

Gallup and Steele.......and to a degree Bland give me pause.

I'd like to say yes but starting to feel bitten with recent contracts to injured players that ended badly.

 

[Scottishcowboy]

There is absolutely no reason to offer Overshown anything. He's under contract for another year and has to show he can play a full season without a major injury. That said, look for Jerry to give him a 4 year deal.

Stuff it, 8 years!

 

[sunalsorises]

Overshown flashes for sure but this defense needs consistency over flash. I'd do the math and trade him if I could get more than a potential compensatory pick for him by letting him walk.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

He’s the type of player I would approach about an extension now and try to get him at a significant discount. Overshown may not want that and would prefer to play out 2026 to establish his value, but with as many issues as he’s had Overshown may welcome the security of signing early.

Or maybe see what we can get by shopping him? I wouldn't trade him if it's less than a 3rd round pick, but I think this is a fairly good pass rush and linebacker draft. So, if we can get a second round or third round pick and a late round pick for him, it might be worth it.

 

[plymkr]

He probably leaves. UFA.

too many injuries.

I agree. I think you let him leave and take the compensation pick when he signs with someone else. I love Overshown but sinking a 2nd contract with him if very, very risky due to injuries.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Overshown flashes for sure but this defense needs consistency over flash. I'd do the math and trade him if I could get more than a potential compensatory pick for him by letting him walk.

It needs availability. Overshown came into the league with a major injury and missed most all of his rookie year. Then he sustained another major injury at the end of last year that lingered into this year. He flashed nothing this year. Bc of his injury history, he's not tradable. The team needs to plan around him and not count on him. If he can play, then that's just a bonus.

 

[Redsfan_83]

We signed Bland after a 1 fluke year, and then out of the Blue can't stay on the field. Overshown as much as I love his style of play, he hasn't shown much when on the field, except flashes of what could be. Let's see if he can play an entire year, and if he delivers, pay the kid because he's working his tail off to earn it. That being said, Jerry will sign him to a 10/200 deal lol

 

[Wichitaleafs]

Sure. 3 year 12 mil.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

Let's see how next season goes. If he shows out, offer an incentive laden long-term extension. He's shown he can't stay healthy and we've already been to this dance with a much better player in Lee. O's injury history is why I would like to see the team double up on LB through the draft and FA.

 

[StarW]

We have seen a reasonable sample size of Overshown s play. When he’s been healthy he has been pretty solid. But he’s also been hurt a lot. He also did not seem to be quite the player we had hoped he would be when he returned from his last injury to end this season.

Couple of questions about him:

1. Would you re-sign Overshown?
2. What type of player is he currently?
3. Can the Cowboys afford to pay him at his market rate, knowing he is very brittle?
4. Would you ride out his contract and see how he plays or would you try to extend him, when eligible at a reduced rate due to his past injuries.
5. Has he been injured enough that instead of re-signing him, you would take a 3rd round pick (his original draft round) for him and move on to another player?

I'd see how it goes in 2026 and make the call then. I'd also like to see him play under another DC before making long-term decisions on him.

Not sure if he's brittle or just bad luck. I'm not sure anyone's knee would hold up to th injury he had las season.

That was a potentially career-ending, catastrophic type of injury he came back from in record time.

Luckily, we've got another season to roll the dice.

I say bring in 2 FA LBs, since they are relatively cheap. Let 2 verterans play with Overshown and James. Liufao is trash.

 

[TwentyOne]

We have seen a reasonable sample size of Overshown s play. When he’s been healthy he has been pretty solid. But he’s also been hurt a lot. He also did not seem to be quite the player we had hoped he would be when he returned from his last injury to end this season.

Couple of questions about him:

1. Would you re-sign Overshown?
2. What type of player is he currently?
3. Can the Cowboys afford to pay him at his market rate, knowing he is very brittle?
4. Would you ride out his contract and see how he plays or would you try to extend him, when eligible at a reduced rate due to his past injuries.
5. Has he been injured enough that instead of re-signing him, you would take a 3rd round pick (his original draft round) for him and move on to another player?

I would tend to disagree that we saw enough samplesize to really get an idea of what player he is going to be.

He showed some flashes but got injured right when it was important to show by many more games that he is able to perform on that "flash" level on a constant basis (90% of the time/plays).

Now after his injury its way too early to get an idea. Those games were to get him back into action only. Let him get the first jump into cold water to get that injuty out of his head.

So i for myself need at least another full season to answer your question. And even if he will perform constantly like he did during his flashes before the injury i have my doubts about a longterm contract.

Those injuries leave their marks. He will have most probably degenerative issues over the course of his career even if he wont get injured again. He will have compensation issues, like back pain, hip or neck problems. Soft tissue problems will be his best friends.

He probably will be a player on the bubble during weekday training. Kind of Sean Lee. You will never be sure if you can count on him come sunday. Maybe not next year, but in 3 years from now. That has to be factored in.

Honestly if youd press me into a decission right now id say no to a second contract. This one has written Jaylon all over it to me. So better watch the tape to be sure what you get ;-).

 

[Kwyn]

We have seen a reasonable sample size of Overshown s play. When he’s been healthy he has been pretty solid. But he’s also been hurt a lot. He also did not seem to be quite the player we had hoped he would be when he returned from his last injury to end this season.

Couple of questions about him:

1. Would you re-sign Overshown?
2. What type of player is he currently?
3. Can the Cowboys afford to pay him at his market rate, knowing he is very brittle?
4. Would you ride out his contract and see how he plays or would you try to extend him, when eligible at a reduced rate due to his past injuries.
5. Has he been injured enough that instead of re-signing him, you would take a 3rd round pick (his original draft round) for him and move on to another player?

I wouldn’t find him anything big.

It’s clear that since he’s been back he’s not the same player as before, which sucks. He’s solid but the wild optimism fans had before is more nostalgia than reality at this point.

It’s really too bad.

 

[charron]

A modest deal, sure. A big contract, no.

 

[stiletto]

I really wish they'd stop with the injury/injured guys. Drafting them AND giving them early contracts just because they get a discount. It's not working.

 

[KingCorcoran]

I agree. I think you let him leave and take the compensation pick when he signs with someone else. I love Overshown but sinking a 2nd contract with him if very, very risky due to injuries.

I wonder how many of the 31 other NFL franchises might consider what you’re saying before giving up any draft capital for him?

 

[75boyz]

These kind of players just keep that same trend of injuries going.

Be it, style of play, body weaknesses or just plain bad luck.

We need 2 new starting LBs at a MINIMUM.

Yep, all of this.
Especially the need for 2 new starting lb's.

 

[MarcusRock]

Well, at least his injury wasn't knee related. It was a concussion, which even the healthiest of players get from time to time.

True, but once you start getting concussions they're easier to have happen to you in the future. The last player you'd want starting a chronic injury risk, even if a different kind, is Overshown.