Owen's non-catch at the end of the game?

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Has anyone talked about the review of this play? I thought if the next play was ran the previous play could not be reviewed? Has this been brought up at all? Or am I wrong?
 

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heavyg;1697681 said:
Has anyone talked about the review of this play? I thought if the next play was ran the previous play could not be reviewed? Has this been brought up at all? Or am I wrong?

That's why the ref said, "Before the snap, we are reviewing the previous play." Did they really get the signal from upstairs before the snap? I tend to doubt it, but who knows.
 

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I didn't hear that? When did he say it? It had to come after the play was ran. Not to mention how slow the ref was running to place the ball. I wonder if we had not got the spike down and the clock ran out if they would have reviewed the play?
 

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perhaps if he just caught the ball, it wouldn't have had to be reviewed at all
 

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jimnabby;1697699 said:
That's why the ref said, "Before the snap, we are reviewing the previous play." Did they really get the signal from upstairs before the snap? I tend to doubt it, but who knows.
I'm not convinced that the Owens play would have been reviewed had Romo not been able to kill the clock on the next play.
 

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Why doubt the refs upstairs wanted to review it? They probably wanted to review before they even saw a replay. Most game changing plays are probably going to be reviewed in that situation. It did not surprise me. They buzzed the ref prior to the play, but the ref was slow in signaling that the play was stopped. In the commotion, he made the announcement that the play was being reviewed. ESPN did a poor job and did not show the ref making the announcement, but you could hear him.
 

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ZeroClub;1697711 said:
I'm not convinced that the Owens play would have been reviewed had Romo not been able to kill the clock on the next play.

Wade said unequivocally today in the PC that if we hadn't gotten the spike down in time, it would *not* have been reviewed. Even if it was seen as incomplete. The replay official waits to see if the team is going to be able to run a play before time expires, and then he buzzes in. If time expires, the game is over.

Which doesn't totally make sense, but that's how it is.
 

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heavyg;1697704 said:
I didn't hear that? When did he say it? It had to come after the play was ran.

Well, yeah. That's why he had to say, "Before the snap...." It's like a false start play where the ball gets snapped before the players realize it's been called dead. Except a spike play is so fast that you don't get to see the officials running in waving their hands and stopping play.
 

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diehard2231;1697705 said:
perhaps if he just caught the ball, it wouldn't have had to be reviewed at all

Perhaps if Romo threw a better pass, but it was hard to expect that. Romo probably only threw one perfect pass all game and that was the TD to Crayton. The rest of the time he was off target and the receivers were having to make circus catches or they were intercepted. I don't think he will have such an off night again any time soon.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1697724 said:
Wade said unequivocally today in the PC that if we hadn't gotten the spike down in time, it would *not* have been reviewed. Even if it was seen as incomplete. The replay official waits to see if the team is going to be able to run a play before time expires, and then he buzzes in. If time expires, the game is over.

Which doesn't totally make sense, but that's how it is.

Wow, that's interesting. I guess it makes sense to me: you don't want the play review to give an unfair benefit to one of the teams, which stopping the clock early would clearly have done in this case.
 

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jimnabby;1697741 said:
Wow, that's interesting. I guess it makes sense to me: you don't want the play review to give an unfair benefit to one of the teams, which stopping the clock early would clearly have done in this case.

But if it was incomplete, we should have had second down with 13 seconds left anyway. If they're going to review it in those situations, they should review it whether it benefits either team, not only if it benefits the defense.
 

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joseephuss;1697732 said:
Perhaps if Romo threw a better pass, but it was hard to expect that. Romo probably only threw one perfect pass all game and that was the TD to Crayton. The rest of the time he was off target and the receivers were having to make circus catches or they were intercepted. I don't think he will have such an off night again any time soon.
HOF wide recievers make those catches,I'm sick of hearing excuses for Owens dropping balls,Romo was awfull last night,but when the game is on the line you have to make that catch.
 

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diehard2231;1697752 said:
HOF wide recievers make those catches,I'm sick of hearing excuses for Owens dropping balls,Romo was awfull last night,but when the game is on the line you have to make that catch.

HOF receivers don't play at HOF levels their whole careers. Dallas does not have TO in his prime, they have him now. Even in his prime he dropped passes. There is no surprise. Plus who said he was a HOFer?
 

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Chocolate Lab;1697724 said:
Wade said unequivocally today in the PC that if we hadn't gotten the spike down in time, it would *not* have been reviewed. Even if it was seen as incomplete. The replay official waits to see if the team is going to be able to run a play before time expires, and then he buzzes in. If time expires, the game is over.

Which doesn't totally make sense, but that's how it is.

yeah that is just stupid
 

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Chocolate Lab;1697724 said:
Wade said unequivocally today in the PC that if we hadn't gotten the spike down in time, it would *not* have been reviewed. Even if it was seen as incomplete. The replay official waits to see if the team is going to be able to run a play before time expires, and then he buzzes in. If time expires, the game is over.

Which doesn't totally make sense, but that's how it is.
That's interesting. Thanks for mentioning it.

Yeah, it doesn't totally make sense.

Given the very small units of time ... How do you really know that the QB can get the spike down in time unless you see him do it, and if you see him do it, doesn't that mean that he's already run the play before your review?
 

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joseephuss;1697765 said:
HOF receivers don't play at HOF levels their whole careers. Dallas does not have TO in his prime, they have him now. Even in his prime he dropped passes. There is no surprise. Plus who said he was a HOFer?
yeah they loose their legs,not there hands,well maybe you can accept his drops,I cant when it's in a big spot. I do believe he will get in canton some day.
 

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diehard2231;1697783 said:
yeah they loose their legs,not there hands,well maybe you can accept his drops,I cant when it's in a big spot. I do believe he will get in canton some day.

I hate that he drops passes, but that is part of who he is and has been as a receiver. I don't expect that to suddenly change and Dallas has to deal with that. I think he will be in Canton, but I never saw him as a clutch player in the likes of Rice and Irvin. He is a big playmaker, but not a crunch time player.
 
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