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Packers gonna stack the box aganist the Cowboys?
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DoctorChicken
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Please do Packers.
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Rock. Meet hard place.
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That's fine. This is not a stout group up front. So the OL should be able execute their blocks and create creases for Murray, whether they stack the box or not. We'll lose some downs due to the run blitzing but we'll also win our share as well. This is not Detroit up front, or even Philly for that matter.
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Packers Defense Needs to Stack the Box Against the Dallas Cowboys
By Justis Mosqueda, Featured Columnist Jan 6, 2015
The Dallas Cowboys offense is a machine forcing defenses to pick their poison, they have legitimate pass-catching threats, one of the best running backs in the league, a more than qualified passer and potentially the best offensive line in the NFL.
The Green Bay Packers offense is fairly similar to Dallas'. Packers fans know how potent their scoring potential is on a play-to-play basis. Rarely are teams able to slow down, let alone shut down, the offense led by MVP favorite Aaron Rodgers.
So, if the offenses are identical and no one can stop Green Bay, how is it supposed to stop the Cowboys on Sunday in Lambeau Field?
The key to today's NFL is being able to stall the run game while still in nickel defense. Most teams' offenses are based out of 11 personnel looks, meaning one running back and one tight end, giving them threewideouts.
Earlier in the NFL's time span, a base defense was either a 3-4 or a 4-3. This allowed for seven box defenders to cover the seven gaps from the outside shoulders of the weak-side tackle to the strong-side tight end.
Now that the NFL has ditched most two-back looks, teams are asked to cover those same seven gaps, but they're also assigned with covering an extra receiver.
This is one reason why scoring rates keep rising as years pass by.
When studying Dallas' most recent game, its 24-20 win over theDetroit Lions in the Wild Card Round, one thing becomes evident: You need to stack the box against the Cowboys.
The play called by Dallas worked to hit Detroit right where it would hurt, too. The inside zone run put two tandems of double-teams on the interior defensive linemen, the Lions' strength, then had one member of each tandem work to the second level to secure the linebackers.
On zone plays with a capable running back, vision should lead the back to any chink in the armor of a defensive front.
Right before Murray gets the handoff, you see the double-teams take place. By the time he touches the ball, the line, absolutely in rhythm, will have the box sealed.
Unfortunately for Murray, the free gap (highlighted in red) might be compromised based on this look. The defensive back assigned over the receiver playing tight end took an inside angle to hit the hole, meaning the receiver would then have to back around Witten to make the block.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...s-to-stack-the-box-against-the-dallas-cowboys
By Justis Mosqueda, Featured Columnist Jan 6, 2015
The Dallas Cowboys offense is a machine forcing defenses to pick their poison, they have legitimate pass-catching threats, one of the best running backs in the league, a more than qualified passer and potentially the best offensive line in the NFL.
The Green Bay Packers offense is fairly similar to Dallas'. Packers fans know how potent their scoring potential is on a play-to-play basis. Rarely are teams able to slow down, let alone shut down, the offense led by MVP favorite Aaron Rodgers.
So, if the offenses are identical and no one can stop Green Bay, how is it supposed to stop the Cowboys on Sunday in Lambeau Field?
The key to today's NFL is being able to stall the run game while still in nickel defense. Most teams' offenses are based out of 11 personnel looks, meaning one running back and one tight end, giving them threewideouts.
Earlier in the NFL's time span, a base defense was either a 3-4 or a 4-3. This allowed for seven box defenders to cover the seven gaps from the outside shoulders of the weak-side tackle to the strong-side tight end.
Now that the NFL has ditched most two-back looks, teams are asked to cover those same seven gaps, but they're also assigned with covering an extra receiver.
This is one reason why scoring rates keep rising as years pass by.
When studying Dallas' most recent game, its 24-20 win over theDetroit Lions in the Wild Card Round, one thing becomes evident: You need to stack the box against the Cowboys.
The play called by Dallas worked to hit Detroit right where it would hurt, too. The inside zone run put two tandems of double-teams on the interior defensive linemen, the Lions' strength, then had one member of each tandem work to the second level to secure the linebackers.
On zone plays with a capable running back, vision should lead the back to any chink in the armor of a defensive front.
Right before Murray gets the handoff, you see the double-teams take place. By the time he touches the ball, the line, absolutely in rhythm, will have the box sealed.
Unfortunately for Murray, the free gap (highlighted in red) might be compromised based on this look. The defensive back assigned over the receiver playing tight end took an inside angle to hit the hole, meaning the receiver would then have to back around Witten to make the block.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...s-to-stack-the-box-against-the-dallas-cowboys
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80 yard TD Bryant run on first down
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They rely on Sam Shield and Tramon Williams to man up quite bit.
Will be interesting matchup. From what I've seen from GB I don't see them doing anything differently against Dallas. Generally it works for them -- I believe they have a Top 10 pass defense.
Will be interesting matchup. From what I've seen from GB I don't see them doing anything differently against Dallas. Generally it works for them -- I believe they have a Top 10 pass defense.
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You tricked me with that tinyurl into going to bleacherreport. Yuck.
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Isn't that the most compelling aspect of this matchup? -- the fact that in many ways the two offenses challenge defenses in similar ways. You can rewrite your sentence for the Packers offense and it would be perfectly believable:
"Stack the Line and Rodgers will eat their lunch. Then back up to stop Rodgers and Lacy will rain on their parade."
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They have good CBs but the Cowboys passing game chewed up their D last season with a lot of the same players. HaHa Clinton-Dix is the only guy I would consider an upgrade.
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True.
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You never know. Murray's metrics are certainly trending in the direction where it wouldn't surprise anybody if an opposing team decided to stop Romo first and live with Murray:
Murray's Average Yards Per Carry (by Month)
5.4 ypc -> September
4.9 ypc -> October
4.5 ypc -> November
4.0 ypc -> December
3.9 ypc -> January (So far)
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Our passing game is more deadly than our run game.
They need to just play a base D or they'll be in a chess match all day.
They need to just play a base D or they'll be in a chess match all day.
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Here's a good read on how they've improved their run defense.
http://host.madison.com/sports/foot...d7f-5ab4-846f-600c2e3eb106.html#ixzz3O18OWm4q
http://host.madison.com/sports/foot...d7f-5ab4-846f-600c2e3eb106.html#ixzz3O18OWm4q
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My basic read of the Packers run defense is it was so terrible in the 1st half the season they ultimately had to move their best rusher in Clay Matthews to ILB and bench AJ Hawk to shore things up.
They've improved their run defense a bunch but their pass rush suffers if Matthews isn't on the edge.
At the end of the day I think you have to tip you hat to Dom Capers for making such an unusual move, however, the Packers haven't faced a running attack like the Cowboys yet this season.