Pacman Trade Talks Beginning

[Rampage]

on espn classic they have on a show called who's number 1, top 20 trade robberies. number 4 was the hershel walker trade. jerry jones said on the show "with the multiple picks it gave us a mentality of risk taking". we have 2 picks in rounds 1 and 6 but we don't need a bunch of players to build a dynasty like in the walker trade. just saying.....

 

[TheCount]

Yes I would do it for Peterson.

This is about winning Superbowls and Peterson is just the guy who could get us that Lombardi.

2 #1's a 2, and a 5 is worth a championship

An entire draft is worth a Superbowl.

Football is about winning Superbowls? Where did you hear this vicious lie?

 

[CATCH17]

Football is about winning Superbowls? Where did you hear this vicious lie?

Its funny how people get lost in these draft picks and overspend in free agency.

Its worth it if you believe it makes your team the odds on favorite to win the SUPERBOWL.

I could care less if we win Free Agency & Draft.

 

[Stash]

on espn classic they have on a show called who's number 1, top 20 trade robberies. number 4 was the hershel walker trade. jerry jones said on the show "with the multiple picks it gaves us a mentality of risk taking". we have 2 picks in rounds 1 and 6 but we don't need a bunch of players to build a dynasty like in the walker trade. just saying.....

In watching that, did it ever occur to you that you're hoping that the Cowboys make exactly the same mistake that the Vikings made?

How did that move work out for Minnesota again?

 

[CATCH17]

In watching that, did it ever occur to you that you're hoping that the Cowboys make exactly the same mistake that the Vikings made?

How did that move work out for Minnesota again?

Something tells me if we completely screw this draft up we will be fine as long as our current roster is still in tact.

 

[Rampage]

In watching that, did it ever occur to you that you're hoping that the Cowboys make exactly the same mistake that the Vikings made?

How did that move work out for Minnesota again?

what if it works out for us though? ever given that any thought, beavis?

 

[Woods]

Something tells me if we completely screw this draft up we will be fine as long as our current roster is still in tact.

We won't be able to keep this roster in tact next year. I think guys like Spears are probably gone, quite possibly Hamlin, and maybe Colombo. Hopefully Newman stays, but that's also a question mark.

We really need to draft well to be able to extend MBIII, Ware, TO, etc. without having to go into FA and pay top dollar for guys like Colombo, Spears, and Hamlin for instance, who we may lose.

 

[TheCount]

Something tells me if we completely screw this draft up we will be fine as long as our current roster is still in tact.

Yeah, completely screwing up a draft where we had two first round picks would mean nothing.

With all the cash we spent to keep the roster in tact this year, what makes you think we can do it again next year? Keep in mind, several of the guys we "kept" don't even have long term deals yet.

 

[Stash]

what if it works out for us though? ever given that any thought, beavis?

I'm sure the Vikings had 'high hopes' too......

You've got it bad.

So bad that no matter how hard reality slaps you in the face, you can't see it.

 

[CATCH17]

I'm sure the Vikings had 'high hopes' too......

You've got it bad.

So bad that no matter how hard reality slaps you in the face, you can't see it.

Who cares about the Vikings?

This whole thing is one big gamble.

If the players we draft end up being Bobby Carpenters and McFadden is doing it big like Peterson then playing it safe was a bad idea.

Personally I would play it safe right now and go for the corner @ 22. " play it smart". "shoot for par"

But if we get Pacman Jones I have no problem with Jerry shooting for the pin!

 

[Taz]

Because getting Pacman Jones is a desperation move in my opinion.

If Jerry could have the 1 guy he wanted I believe it would be McFadden.

Since we have 2 1st round picks we have earned the right to do what ever the heck we want with them. Especially considering what we gave up for the Browns pick.

If Jerry thinks Pacman and McFadden puts us in the Superbowl then he'll make this move.

many are projecting the browns pickj to be top 5 I think boy jones even was quoted as saying that pick could get "the running back"

 

[Woods]

many are projecting the browns pickj to be top 5 I think boy jones even was quoted as saying that pick could get "the running back"

Yes, I think it as S Jones who said something like we could possibly get McFadden with that pick.

 

[iceberg]

what if it works out for us though? ever given that any thought, beavis?

plenty. but you're on a one-rail-train dude. you're DMAC or nothing. it's consumed you past the point of reason. any other option you dismiss because it doesn't serve the great DMAC cause.

ever give that any thought, beav?

 

[Rampage]

plenty. but you're on a one-rail-train dude. you're DMAC or nothing. it's consumed you past the point of reason. any other option you dismiss because it doesn't serve the great DMAC cause.

ever give that any thought, beav?

a post without whining or a complaint by iceberg but i'm not dmac or nothing as you put it. i just think us getting dmac would have more of an impact than any combo you could think of with #22 and #28 picks.

 

[iceberg]

a post without whining or a complaint by iceberg but i'm not dmac or nothing as you put it. i just think us getting dmac would have more of an impact than any combo you could think of with #22 and #28 picks.

what i did this time was neither, but again i can see you have a shallow sense of depth and inability to see past what gives you giggles at the time.

now - tell me what else you'll give up besides 22, 28 - cause alone those are not going to get you there.

you've failed to answer that part of your love-fest time and again and just go on and whine about people who catch you at being...you.

 

[Rampage]

what i did this time was neither, but again i can see you have a shallow sense of depth and inability to see past what gives you giggles at the time.

now - tell me what else you'll give up besides 22, 28 - cause alone those are not going to get you there.

you've failed to answer that part of your love-fest time and again and just go on and whine about people who catch you at being...you.

i bet belicheat would take 22 and 28 for the 7th overall pick. to the jets i'd give up both picks and maybe carp or a 5th rounder. to the raiders (which of whom i don't think it would take 2 1sts a second, and a 5th) i'd give up both 1sts and barber.

 

[iceberg]

i bet belicheat would take 22 and 28 for the 7th overall pick. to the jets i'd give up both picks and maybe carp or a 5th rounder. to the raiders (which of whom i don't think it would take 2 1sts a second, and a 5th) i'd give up both 1sts and barber.

that gets you to 7. we're still short and it's not likely mcf will go past 4 with oakland.

give up carp huh? would they take him or giggle themselves?

oakland - so we lose both firsts, a fan-fav and someone who puts his heart on the field (of which we've not seen since irvin, i miss it and don't wanna gamble that away so easily) and by filling one hole you create another.

so given it would take the oakland trade, you've now:

given up both 1st rounders.
created a gap at RB you need to fill
not addressed your CB position (pacman regardless, he's a gamble and we still need a top flight CB in this 1st round if at all possible)
and we've not addressed the WR position.

but we got this years top prize.

thank for for at least answering the question. i just don't agree it's a valid path to take when we're needing to go just a little further with smart moves, not wild rolls of the dice.

there are a lot of rb's in this draft and we should use that to our favor, not fall in love with one. but again, appreciate the answer. i just completely disagree. not saying mcf isn't good - that's not the case. but when it's all a gamble, i prefer less risk than where you're going.

 

[Rampage]

that gets you to 7. we're still short and it's not likely mcf will go past 4 with oakland.

give up carp huh? would they take him or giggle themselves?

oakland - so we lose both firsts, a fan-fav and someone who puts his heart on the field (of which we've not seen since irvin, i miss it and don't wanna gamble that away so easily) and by filling one hole you create another.

so given it would take the oakland trade, you've now:

given up both 1st rounders.
created a gap at RB you need to fill
not addressed your CB position (pacman regardless, he's a gamble and we still need a top flight CB in this 1st round if at all possible)
and we've not addressed the WR position.

but we got this years top prize.

thank for for at least answering the question. i just don't agree it's a valid path to take when we're needing to go just a little further with smart moves, not wild rolls of the dice.

there are a lot of rb's in this draft and we should use that to our favor, not fall in love with one. but again, appreciate the answer. i just completely disagree. not saying mcf isn't good - that's not the case. but when it's all a gamble, i prefer less risk than where you're going.

i hear ya. that's your right to disagree with me and that's cool. but to the wr thing, i doubt we draft a wr this year. i think were gonna go after Roy from detroit next year if not sooner. i think jerry is loading up counting on atleast 1 uncapped season. but even if we did draft a wr i doubt it would come on day 1.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

that gets you to 7. we're still short and it's not likely mcf will go past 4 with oakland.

give up carp huh? would they take him or giggle themselves?

oakland - so we lose both firsts, a fan-fav and someone who puts his heart on the field (of which we've not seen since irvin, i miss it and don't wanna gamble that away so easily) and by filling one hole you create another.

so given it would take the oakland trade, you've now:

given up both 1st rounders.
created a gap at RB you need to fill
not addressed your CB position (pacman regardless, he's a gamble and we still need a top flight CB in this 1st round if at all possible)
and we've not addressed the WR position.

but we got this years top prize.

thank for for at least answering the question. i just don't agree it's a valid path to take when we're needing to go just a little further with smart moves, not wild rolls of the dice.

there are a lot of rb's in this draft and we should use that to our favor, not fall in love with one. but again, appreciate the answer. i just completely disagree. not saying mcf isn't good - that's not the case. but when it's all a gamble, i prefer less risk than where you're going.

I think it's likely he'll get past Oakland. In fact, I think Oakland might trade down. If so, he might not get past whomever trades with Oakland. I think Oakland is looking at OL or maybe DL. Don't look past the fact that Oakland, if he's on the board, might take Long. Oakland knows more about Chris Long then any other team in the NFL. You know that's got to be something they are considering in the back of there minds.

 

[iceberg]

i hear ya. that's your right to disagree with me and that's cool. but to the wr thing, i doubt we draft a wr this year. i think were gonna go after Roy from detroit next year if not sooner. i think jerry is loading up counting on atleast 1 uncapped season. but even if we did draft a wr i doubt it would come on day 1.

williams or bolden would take one of those 1st you gave up so you couldn't do that too. : ) but i do agree a trade of one of those picks for bolden or williams is likely also in the works.

which that in itself would rule out mcfadden, wouldn't it? if jones is planning to use one of those pics for a proven wr?