Parcells a failure here?

[AtlCB]

Can we really say that Parcells is a failure? He had a 34-32 record with a team that he took over with no future star at QB and a bunch of untalented, lazy players. Did everyone forget about the dominoes in the locker room? The poodle at head coach? The battles between Gailey and Aikman? Parcells may have failed to win a championship or even a playoff game, but can you really say that Gailey's and Campo's performance were even in the same zip code as the job Parcells did? In four years, he has transformed this team into one of the more talented teams in the league.

Having said that, it appears as if Parcells should be leaving. It seems as if most players didn't like him much and some played as if they were afraid to make a mistake. Hopefully, the next coach can take this team to the next level.

Parcells is one of the greatest coaches ever, but he is probably now better suited for a GM position. Hopefully, Jones will keep in on board for this position or at least help with those duties.

 

[FLCowboyFan]

I don't think it matters what he is labeled. He was not successful here when you measure it in winning playoff games. Therefore he did not do what he came here to do. However the team is stronger than when he got here. Since we have to bring in a new staff and that will cause change, the only way to measure if BP was ultimately good or bad for the team is what we are in 2 years.

If we have to rotate players again to meet the new coaches needs, then the move to the 3-4 will have hurt the team. If not then he could have laid the foundation. There is just no way to judge at this moment in time.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I don't think it matters what he is labeled. He was not successful here when you measure it in winning playoff games. Therefore he did not do what he came here to do. However the team is stronger than when he got here. Since we have to bring in a new staff and that will cause change, the only way to measure if BP was ultimately good or bad for the team is what we are in 2 years.

If we have to rotate players again to meet the new coaches needs, then the move to the 3-4 will have hurt the team. If not then he could have laid the foundation. There is just no way to judge at this moment in time.

I can't agree with this statement. Now if they bring in a good 3-4 coach and he still has to turn over the roster on D, then I can agree with it. But if they bring in a 4-3 guy, when the last 2 years has been building a 3-4 D, with the consent of the Owner/GM, then whose fault is that? I don't think you can put that on Parcells, he was doing what he thought was in the best interest of the Team.

I can not classify his time here a Failure. I know we didn't win like we had all hoped when he was hired. And I know that with every stop in his career, the results have went down, but he left this team in very good shape. A very talented group of young players, a Franchise QB that he groomed, the best punter in the league and did it the right way, through the draft with key FA pickups. We are in great shape with the Cap and talent on this team. I can honestly say, this team is much better than the one he took over in 02. To me, that can not be classified a failure.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

BP was brought in here to rebuild a franchise, that's what he was known for when we hired him, and I say he did just that, we have come from being morbid, to competitive, and have managed in the last 2 years to either beat, or hang w/ some of the league's best under BP

now it times for a new direction

 

[03EBZ06]

Parcells a failure here?

If you are looking at only W/L and winning SB, then yes.

But if you are looking at the rebuilding the team, I think he has done pretty good job of having some very good young players in place to have a winning season for several years.

 

[FLCowboyFan]

I can't agree with this statement. Now if they bring in a good 3-4 coach and he still has to turn over the roster on D, then I can agree with it. But if they bring in a 4-3 guy, when the last 2 years has been building a 3-4 D, with the consent of the Owner/GM, then whose fault is that? I don't think you can put that on Parcells, he was doing what he thought was in the best interest of the Team.

I can not classify his time here a Failure. I know we didn't win like we had all hoped when he was hired. And I know that with every stop in his career, the results have went down, but he left this team in very good shape. A very talented group of young players, a Franchise QB that he groomed, the best punter in the league and did it the right way, through the draft with key FA pickups. We are in great shape with the Cap and talent on this team. I can honestly say, this team is much better than the one he took over in 02. To me, that can not be classified a failure.

BP put a system in place this year (not two years ago). His D coordinator never felt comfortable with it but we put it in place assuming that he would be here and he was comfortable with it. So after 1 year we now are on a coaching search. The 3-4 is the minority system run in the NFL. So if we can not find a good 3-4 man and instead we end up with a 4-3 coach (which the majority are) it will be as a result of BP's decisions that we had to change.

 

[dallasfaniac]

Parcells was a failure as a coach. As a GM he was much more successfull. However, how much of that was on Payton (Romo), Ireland and co. (defensive players)?

 

[AtlCB]

BP put a system in place this year (not two years ago). His D coordinator never felt comfortable with it but we put it in place assuming that he would be here and he was comfortable with it. So after 1 year we now are on a coaching search. The 3-4 is the minority system run in the NFL. So if we can not find a good 3-4 man and instead we end up with a 4-3 coach (which the majority are) it will be as a result of BP's decisions that we had to change.

Whether we keep the 3-4 or not, we have enough talented defensive players to effectively run either system.

 

[AtlCB]

Parcells was a failure as a coach. As a GM he was much more successfull. However, how much of that was on Payton (Romo), Ireland and co. (defensive players)?

I still disagree that he was a failure as HC. He didn't have the same kind of success that he had turning other teams around, but 34-32 and a young, talented roster in four years after three straight 5-11 seasons isn't exactly a failure. He also may just have turned Jerry into a much better GM, and found a very good head scout. Let's also not forget that he may have just found a franchise QB for this team. I don't see how anyone can consider this a failure.

 

[Doomsday]

This team is setup for the future with some good young talent and room to manuever around the salary cap. He might not have brought a Super Bowl to Dallas but he has the franchise turned around and and headed in the right diretion.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Bill's legacy here (in Dallas) will depend on the success of the next head coach. If JJ hires some puppet who does a horrible job, people will look at BP and say "his players" were all garbage. Of course, the flip side of that is JJ could luck upon a young genius who takes the existing players (with a few additions and subtractions) and does a Sean Payton. BP would get credit for putting the winning team in place. Either way, his legacy in Dallas hinges upon the success of his successor.

 

[dallasfaniac]

I still disagree that he was a failure as HC. He didn't have the same kind of success that he had turning other teams around, but 34-32 and a young, talented roster in four years after three straight 5-11 seasons isn't exactly a failure. He also may just have turned Jerry into a much better GM, and found a very good head scout. Let's also not forget that he may have just found a franchise QB for this team. I don't see how anyone can consider this a failure.

You are confusing coaching with 'acting' GM. Payton recommended Romo and would have taken him with if he could. Parcells assembled a good team, but many of the coaching decisions were terrible. Evaluating talent isn't something that can pass you by like coaching can. He has been outcoached since being here. Like I said, coaching = failure, gm = success.

 

[Established1971]

Can we really say that Parcells is a failure? He had a 34-32 record with a team that he took over with no future star at QB and a bunch of untalented, lazy players. Did everyone forget about the dominoes in the locker room? The poodle at head coach? The battles between Gailey and Aikman? Parcells may have failed to win a championship or even a playoff game, but can you really say that Gailey's and Campo's performance were even in the same zip code as the job Parcells did? In four years, he has transformed this team into one of the more talented teams in the league.

Having said that, it appears as if Parcells should be leaving. It seems as if most players didn't like him much and some played as if they were afraid to make a mistake. Hopefully, the next coach can take this team to the next level.

Parcells is one of the greatest coaches ever, but he is probably now better suited for a GM position. Hopefully, Jones will keep in on board for this position or at least help with those duties.

But why compare him to Campo or Gailey? Why not compare him to himself? Look at what he did at NYG, NE and NJY, much much better in each case. I consider him a failure myself.

 

[Established1971]

I still disagree that he was a failure as HC. He didn't have the same kind of success that he had turning other teams around, but 34-32 and a young, talented roster in four years after three straight 5-11 seasons isn't exactly a failure. He also may just have turned Jerry into a much better GM, and found a very good head scout. Let's also not forget that he may have just found a franchise QB for this team. I don't see how anyone can consider this a failure.

I guess it gets into semantics. If you do some good can you still be a failure? Can you say he's a failure but not a total failure? I'd say so

 

[Doomsday101]

I think we are better off because of him but we did not accomplish what the goal was when he took over so to a large extent his time here was a failure.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think we are better off because of him but we did not accomplish what the goal was when he took over so to a large extent his time here was a failure.

it's all about perspective

 

[notherbob]

Can we really say that Parcells is a failure? He had a 34-32 record with a team that he took over with no future star at QB and a bunch of untalented, lazy players. Did everyone forget about the dominoes in the locker room? The poodle at head coach? The battles between Gailey and Aikman? Parcells may have failed to win a championship or even a playoff game, but can you really say that Gailey's and Campo's performance were even in the same zip code as the job Parcells did? In four years, he has transformed this team into one of the more talented teams in the league.

Having said that, it appears as if Parcells should be leaving. It seems as if most players didn't like him much and some played as if they were afraid to make a mistake. Hopefully, the next coach can take this team to the next level.

Parcells is one of the greatest coaches ever, but he is probably now better suited for a GM position. Hopefully, Jones will keep in on board for this position or at least help with those duties.

Can't disagree. BP is like Dallas' version of Moses who led his people to the promised land and then retired and didn't go in himself. Once we get over his stubborness and extreme conservatism causing him to be outcoached, he will be a fond memory in fans' minds.

BP done good. Five out of six non-winning seasons before he came and he turned that into winning records 3 out of 4 years and two post-season appearances.

 

[Doomsday101]

it's all about perspective

Not really, I think if you asked Parcells was this a successful stint in your career I doubt he would say yes. I do think player wise we are a better team but did we accomplish what Jerry wanted, what fans wanted and what Bill Parcells himself wanted? I think that is easy no they didn't. I don’t think Parcells is a failure I still think he is a very good coach but things did not work out in the end

 

[iceberg]

I don't think it matters what he is labeled. He was not successful here when you measure it in winning playoff games. Therefore he did not do what he came here to do. However the team is stronger than when he got here. Since we have to bring in a new staff and that will cause change, the only way to measure if BP was ultimately good or bad for the team is what we are in 2 years.

If we have to rotate players again to meet the new coaches needs, then the move to the 3-4 will have hurt the team. If not then he could have laid the foundation. There is just no way to judge at this moment in time.

i'm one of the harshest parcells critics and i'd not even call him a failure here.

did he live up to hype? no.
did he give us what we all wanted? no (not exactly reasonable however)
did he give us a better team? YES.
did he allow jones to prove he can back off and let a coach coach? YES.

in all, parcells left us better than he found it and to date, only johnson had done that before.

success, just not what we wanted in the beginning.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Not really, I think if you asked Parcells was this a successful stint in your career I doubt he would say yes. I do think player wise we are a better team but did we accomplish what Jerry wanted, what fans wanted and what Bill Parcells himself wanted? I think that is easy no they didn't. I don’t think Parcells is a failure I still think he is a very good coach but things did not work out in the end

but wasn't one of Bill's priorities coming here to rebuild this franchise? he did that, so w/ that in mind, you can't call his stint here a total failure