Parcells needs to put up or shutup/leave

NorthDalal

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Now there is no room for a kind word about Henson's fine effort in NFLE.

BP needs to deliver here, this year period. The guy who chose to bench young Phil Simms in favor of Scott Brunner is far from infallible when it comes to QB evaluation and development.

He's run off Leroi Glover, Dexter Coakley and others and doesn't seem to know when one of his old Parcells guys is finished, Detrick Ward, Richie Anderson, Vinnie T and others.... come on down..

Having sat through the disgraceful loss to Pittsburgh(2004 Vinnie's botched handoff to Richie Anderson) and the going for it on 4th down in his own territory against the Giants in 2004, the 1st cut of Keith Davis, the thowing on the goal line 2 yds short of the endzone against Oakland, the mismangement of the Seattle and Washington (1st ) in 2005 and the purported backing of Jacob Rogers over the objection on many of our scouts, I'm glad Jerry will not cut one of the young QBs but .... now its time to shut up and produce a winner here.
9-7 and ending the season with a lay down vs. the Rams (another game I had the misfortune to witness in person) only suggests that there are coaching staff issues on this team.
 

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He's not infallible, but he's done a heckuva lot more good than bad here. Look how many years it took Holmgren to get Seattle to the big show. Every year I could see that they were getting better and that any day they would get there. In today's NFL with parity, you simply have to be patient.
 

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LOL

ITs laroi glover.

Richie anderson knocked the ball out of vinny's hand, keyshawn was wide open and would have had the first down to win the game!!

Go check our roster and then tell me you would rather have coakley and glover. I loved glover, great player but We are now a team with a plan every april, a plan on defense and a veteran offense with a lot of punch.

So go dig up the tapes or I could send you some of chan gailey and dave campos teams and watch them.
 

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I love the team's direction - but I agree with your general premise.

BP needs to get it done, and it is kind of now or never. And I'm talking championship game get it done, no brief playoff appearance like the lame skins.
 

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NorthDalal said:
Now there is no room for a kind word about Henson's fine effort in NFLE.

BP needs to deliver here, this year period. The guy who chose to bench young Phil Simms in favor of Scott Brunner is far from infallible when it comes to QB evaluation and development.

He's run off Leroi Glover, Dexter Coakley and others and doesn't seem to know when one of his old Parcells guys is finished, Detrick Ward, Richie Anderson, Vinnie T and others.... come on down..

Having sat through the disgraceful loss to Pittsburgh(2004 Vinnie's botched handoff to Richie Anderson) and the going for it on 4th down in his own territory against the Giants in 2004, the 1st cut of Keith Davis, the thowing on the goal line 2 yds short of the endzone against Oakland, the mismangement of the Seattle and Washington (1st ) in 2005 and the purported backing of Jacob Rogers over the objection on many of our scouts, I'm glad Jerry will not cut one of the young QBs but .... now its time to shut up and produce a winner here.
9-7 and ending the season with a lay down vs. the Rams (another game I had the misfortune to witness in person) only suggests that there are coaching staff issues on this team.
Ok, Coakley may get cut from the Rams this year, Vinnie and Richie are both gone, and Parcells had unfavorable, not critical, unfavorable comments about our current 3RD STRING QB. Who really cares? Think of the 3 coaches before Parcells and what direction the team was headed. At least we have reasons to be optimistic this year rather than watching our team go down the crapper in the off season. Parcells is far from perfect, but still the best coach we've had in years.
 

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Words cannot begin to describe how crazy people are thinking.

Where is Henson's accountability to simply play better?

Is it always some nefarious plot by Parcells to keep Henson down?

But I think if Parcells doesn't do well, he'd take it upon himself to do something about it.
 

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i agree. this is it. this is the year to win it all. and bp knows it.
 

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NorthDalal said:
Now there is no room for a kind word about Henson's fine effort in NFLE.

BP needs to deliver here, this year period. The guy who chose to bench young Phil Simms in favor of Scott Brunner is far from infallible when it comes to QB evaluation and development.

But Brunner Had "it"

And He needed to see more from Simms.
 

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Alexander said:
Words cannot begin to describe how crazy people are thinking.

Where is Henson's accountability to simply play better?

Is it always some nefarious plot by Parcells to keep Henson down?

But I think if Parcells doesn't do well, he'd take it upon himself to do something about it.
No. I honestly believe Parcells wants Henson to succeed. If he doesn't, he doesn't. I don't buy into the theories that he's not impressed or upset or doesn't like him. That's all they are, theories.

I just agree with what Al is saying about he doesn't have much room to crow. He hasn't exactly set the world on fire here. On that point, I agree.
 

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Wasn't Glover a cap casualty more than anything??

I don't think Parcells in the game of cutting current Pro Bowlers...
 

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NorthDalal said:
Now there is no room for a kind word about Henson's fine effort in NFLE.

BP needs to deliver here, this year period. The guy who chose to bench young Phil Simms in favor of Scott Brunner is far from infallible when it comes to QB evaluation and development.

He's run off Leroi Glover, Dexter Coakley and others and doesn't seem to know when one of his old Parcells guys is finished, Detrick Ward, Richie Anderson, Vinnie T and others.... come on down..

Having sat through the disgraceful loss to Pittsburgh(2004 Vinnie's botched handoff to Richie Anderson) and the going for it on 4th down in his own territory against the Giants in 2004, the 1st cut of Keith Davis, the thowing on the goal line 2 yds short of the endzone against Oakland, the mismangement of the Seattle and Washington (1st ) in 2005 and the purported backing of Jacob Rogers over the objection on many of our scouts, I'm glad Jerry will not cut one of the young QBs but .... now its time to shut up and produce a winner here.
9-7 and ending the season with a lay down vs. the Rams (another game I had the misfortune to witness in person) only suggests that there are coaching staff issues on this team.

If this team is successful i hope u are the first to be here to admit that u were wrong.
 

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Alexander said:
Words cannot begin to describe how crazy people are thinking.

Where is Henson's accountability to simply play better?

Is it always some nefarious plot by Parcells to keep Henson down?

But I think if Parcells doesn't do well, he'd take it upon himself to do something about it.

Today is definitely the end of the world 6/6/06.... I actually agree with you!

GOOD POST MAN!
:bow:
 

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I just agree with what Al is saying about he doesn't have much room to crow. He hasn't exactly set the world on fire here. On that point, I agree.

Didn't you just post a 75000 word epic about how optimistic about the season you were?

Who do you think is responsible for that?
 

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Didn't you just post a 75000 word epic about how optimistic about the season you were?

Who do you think is responsible for that?
I sure did.

I'd say many people are responsible for it and he's just one of the many.
 

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I sure did.

I'd say many people are responsible for it and he's just one of the many.

Uh, he's the head coach and arguably has more say than Jerry as far as GM duties.

If other people are responsible, most notably Jeff Ireland in my mind, its because Bill was largely responsible for putting them in that position.

I think your straddling the fence here, pal :)
 

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Uh, he's the head coach and arguably has more say than Jerry as far as GM duties.

If other people are responsible, most notably Jeff Ireland in my mind, its because Bill was largely responsible for putting them in that position.

I think your straddling the fence here, pal :)
There are also 53 guys who pull on pads and helmets.

I didn't say he isn't owed credit. I said until he accomplishes it Al has a point.
 

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No more excuses for Bill Parcells! He better win a playoff game this year or I want his fat but out of here. He'll probably get rid of himself if he doesn't. Also no more blaming the players if he doesn't win a playoff game.
 

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There are also 53 guys who pull on pads and helmets.

I didn't say he isn't owed credit. I said until he accomplishes it Al has a point.

THose 53 guys putting on pads and helmets are much better than the 53 guys who were putting on pads and helmets for us 4 years ago.

A massive part of the reason why is Bill Parcells.

I'm not saying there haven't been some major hiccups along the way (the entire 2004 offseason comes to mind), but if you are going to officially declare with your 25000th post that the Boys are Back In Town, then it seems a bit odd to me that you are trying to deflect credit away from the guy who is most responsible for it happening.

I know, I know, 26-25 or whatever the record is. One playoff appearance. I get it.

But Al's post seems to nitpick a lot of stupid crap without looking at the big picture of a franchise with absolutely positively zero hope 4 years ago suddenly being filled with a lot of it.
 
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