Parcells

[Parcells]

You guys, cmon now.. I cant beleive what im reading here at the ZONE. ? Everyone has cracked down on our HC, im stunned just as much here as the way I was after the game on sunday.. I cant beleive you guys are blowing off Parcells, Remember he had a crisis when he took over the team now were getting better and everyone is ready to behead Parcells. Just let him fix the team hes doing a good job with all the injuries and O-line that cant block, Im sure he sees Barber making better plays than JJ but cant just throw him in the trash, Its his 2nd yr for pete sakes (he was injured) after he had a good close to the season last year.. Hey even if we dont make the playoffs or win the SB this year atleast we know now our team is capable of competing with any team in the NFL.. We couldnt hold a candlelight to the Patriots or Eagles or any good team just 2 years ago from a team still of the Campo&Jones and Gailey ERA... So hey guys just sit back I Trust Coach Parcells to do the most with what he has left and how will improve even more in the offseason. Just dont start the bash and trash talking about him allready... Not Cool.

:suxskins: :shoot1: :skins: :skins: :lombardi:

 

[Qwickdraw]

Please post more often.

 

[Clove]

I'm going to stick with him, but my patience is wearing thin. We've wasted 2 years already.

 

[juice28]

Wasted 2 years.....what measuring stick are we using when we evaluate the coaches. Granted some coaches get hot from the start but most coaches take time to get the team like they want it to win consistently. How good did you expect us to be this year anyway...14-2 and the NFC Championship game? Come on! We just implemented a totally different 3-4 defensive scheme and BP hasn't got all the players he wants that fits that system yet. We've overachieved if you ask me! I knew it was going to be a rough season, but we will eventually reap what we sow. A coaching change now only takes up back a step.....and that's even if Jimmy Johnson comes back wearing Tom Landry's hat.

 

[Sarge]

You guys, cmon now.. I cant beleive what im reading here at the ZONE. ? Everyone has cracked down on our HC, im stunned just as much here as the way I was after the game on sunday.. I cant beleive you guys are blowing off Parcells, Remember he had a crisis when he took over the team now were getting better and everyone is ready to behead Parcells. Just let him fix the team hes doing a good job with all the injuries and O-line that cant block, Im sure he sees Barber making better plays than JJ but cant just throw him in the trash, Its his 2nd yr for pete sakes (he was injured) after he had a good close to the season last year.. Hey even if we dont make the playoffs or win the SB this year atleast we know now our team is capable of competing with any team in the NFL.. We couldnt hold a candlelight to the Patriots or Eagles or any good team just 2 years ago from a team still of the Campo&Jones and Gailey ERA... So hey guys just sit back I Trust Coach Parcells to do the most with what he has left and how will improve even more in the offseason. Just dont start the bash and trash talking about him allready... Not Cool.

:suxskins: :shoot1: :skins: :skins: :lombardi:

Imagine that, someone with common sense, and patience.

Yes, post more often.

 

[CowboyChris]

anyone who could lead us to the playoffs with QC and Hambrick, should stick around longer.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

anyone who could lead us to the playoffs with QC and Hambrick, should stick around longer.

Good point

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Nice positive posts..........are a good thing!

 

[notherbob]

Get over it, folks, things like this happen occasionally. At least it has become a rare thing for the Boys to get blown out, it used to happen frequently. Old Indian saying: That which doesn't kill me will make me stronger. What's it going to take for Torrin Tucker to turn his depression into anger and determination and come out with a vengeance?

Even with the blackeye the Commanders gave them, the Cowboys are a better team than they were last year and not as good as they will be next year. For all his mistakes, there is no better qualified person to hold the reins than Bill Parcells. We fans sit on our butts and impatiently find fault when we should be realizing and thankful for how far this team has come as well as where we know it can go if things continue to improve. It is obvious his work is not done yet, just as it is obvious that he has done an overall good job in plowing under Jerry's errors and planting his own selection of sturdier stock. Bill's growing some pretty good groceries, we just have to wait until the fruit ripens.

In short:
Patience Grasshoppers!

 

[Kittymama]

You guys, cmon now.. I cant beleive what im reading here at the ZONE. ? Everyone has cracked down on our HC, im stunned just as much here as the way I was after the game on sunday.. I cant beleive you guys are blowing off Parcells, Remember he had a crisis when he took over the team now were getting better and everyone is ready to behead Parcells. Just let him fix the team hes doing a good job with all the injuries and O-line that cant block, Im sure he sees Barber making better plays than JJ but cant just throw him in the trash, Its his 2nd yr for pete sakes (he was injured) after he had a good close to the season last year.. Hey even if we dont make the playoffs or win the SB this year atleast we know now our team is capable of competing with any team in the NFL.. We couldnt hold a candlelight to the Patriots or Eagles or any good team just 2 years ago from a team still of the Campo&Jones and Gailey ERA... So hey guys just sit back I Trust Coach Parcells to do the most with what he has left and how will improve even more in the offseason. Just dont start the bash and trash talking about him allready... Not Cool.

:suxskins: :shoot1: :skins: :skins: :lombardi:

Aren't these a bunch of losers?

 

[WoodysGirl]

Aren't these a bunch of losers?

I don't think everyone should be painted w/that same brush, KM. People have a right to vent and call for Parcells head, just as others have a right to support him to the bitter end. But calling folks who question his leadership, losers, is not cool to me.

Personally, I have a wait and see philosophy... I like some of the things BP has done and I can't stand others... But I see it headed in the right direction if he sticks around to finish the job. No way he can do that in one final year. If he doesn't extend, then my blase opinion might be a lil more perturbed.

 

[maxsports]

My problem is where is the team going? An old veteran quarterback with no future one sitting behind him, an offensive line that needs an entire overhaul, no field goal kicker, and some holes still to fill on defense. I don't see Parcells sticking around to complete all that. And I will come back to the quarterback. We have alot of youngsters on the team and not one of them is our future quarterback. So when that finally happens we have to wait for him to mature. Alot of wasted time by Jerry!!!

 

[Way 'nuff]

You guys do realize that no one would take your team seriously at all if it weren't for him?

He's an awesome coach, it's not his fault that his players collectively **** all over Fed Ex Field on Sunday.

 

[joseephuss]

I am frustrated with the development of the offensive line. There is justification for that frustration. The O-line was terrible in 2002 prior to Parcells arriving. I wasn't expecting the line to be the best in the league, but I was expecting some development. That has not happened.

I can understand the left side of the line. You don't make a move when you inherit Larry Allen, perhaps the greatest lineman in NFL history and Flozell Adams, a very talented tackle. Those two are the anchors that you build the line upon. Sure, Larry is not the Larry of old, but he is still someone you count on and develop his backup and eventual replacement. You have to accept that Flozell was injured. That happens.

The part that is dissapointing and frustrating is the rest of the line. Center, right guard and right tackle have not been appreciably improved since Parcells arrived. He signed a free agent that had a history of injury in Ryan Young and drafted a tackle that had a history of injury in college. Predictably, those two options did not work. He seems irritated when guys spend time in the training room, but goes out and gets guys that have a history of doing just that. Why would he expect them to change?

There is some hope in Pettiti. He is young and could improve and has played admirably if not always effectively. There is some potential there, but there are still question marks as well. There are serious questions with right guard and center. So after 3 seasons, there are no definitive answers to these three positions. I would expect after this time to have at least one of those positions filled with someone that we would not have to question. That is not too much to ask.

 

[DandyDon]

I am frustrated with the development of the offensive line. There is justification for that frustration. The O-line was terrible in 2002 prior to Parcells arriving. I wasn't expecting the line to be the best in the league, but I was expecting some development. That has not happened.

I can understand the left side of the line. You don't make a move when you inherit Larry Allen, perhaps the greatest lineman in NFL history and Flozell Adams, a very talented tackle. Those two are the anchors that you build the line upon. Sure, Larry is not the Larry of old, but he is still someone you count on and develop his backup and eventual replacement. You have to accept that Flozell was injured. That happens.

The part that is dissapointing and frustrating is the rest of the line. Center, right guard and right tackle have not been appreciably improved since Parcells arrived. He signed a free agent that had a history of injury in Ryan Young and drafted a tackle that had a history of injury in college. Predictably, those two options did not work. He seems irritated when guys spend time in the training room, but goes out and gets guys that have a history of doing just that. Why would he expect them to change?

There is some hope in Pettiti. He is young and could improve and has played admirably if not always effectively. There is some potential there, but there are still question marks as well. There are serious questions with right guard and center. So after 3 seasons, there are no definitive answers to these three positions. I would expect after this time to have at least one of those positions filled with someone that we would not have to question. That is not too much to ask.

Not too much to ask if you play Madden football....but with the salary cap issues and personnel issues this team had when Parcells took over were in shambles! It does take time to revamp an entire team - he has tried to do it the best way that he knows how. The first year put Parcells in a sticky situation, because the players played the entire season WAY OVER their heads, so it was hard for Bill to know what he had, so that put him "behind the 8-ball" so to speak. So once he realizes what he really does have (after 2nd season), he works on the defense, because it's the fastest way to field a team that will at least compete with the competition. They are a young defense - they will come around with time. I do believe he will now work on the offense, and remember this - all teams will hit and miss with picks and players of all positions at times. The majority of fans that don't understand everything involved in trying to field a competitive team in the NFL, or any professional sports team for that matter will tend to feel this way - especially Cowboy fans - history has shown we are not the most patient people on earth. But I truly believe that JJ, Parcells and Co. are doing the best that anyone could possibly do - and not a bad job in my mind. And as I stated above, I am ecstatic that they are fielding a team that can at least "compete" with other teams. However, in saying all of this - I feel your frustration! PATIENCE MY FRIEND!

 

[WV Cowboy]

I like the physical changes that Parcells has made to our roster, and I can wait for the young pups to develop.

I know the O-line is suffering through injuries and inexperience.

I know the defense is still learning the 3-4.

I can be patient if I see those type of things being addressed and improved.

But there is something wrong in the gut, or in the heart of a team that doesn't even show up in the biggest game of the year against your hated rival.

Something is lacking that you can't get in FA or the draft.

That comes from the HC, and the team chemistry that he developes.

 

[DandyDon]

I like the physical changes that Parcells has made to our roster, and I can wait for the young pups to develop.

I know the O-line is suffering through injuries and inexperience.

I know the defense is still learning the 3-4.

I can be patient if I see those type of things being addressed and improved.

But there is something wrong in the gut, or in the heart of a team that doesn't even show up in the biggest game of the year against your hated rival.

Something is lacking that you can't get in FA or the draft.

That comes from the HC, and the team chemistry that he developes.

Or it was just an aberration - I've seen 'em before, or it could be as Bill said - just a young team that hasn't learned everything yet.

 

[joseephuss]

Not too much to ask if you play Madden football....but with the salary cap issues and personnel issues this team had when Parcells took over were in shambles! It does take time to revamp an entire team - he has tried to do it the best way that he knows how. The first year put Parcells in a sticky situation, because the players played the entire season WAY OVER their heads, so it was hard for Bill to know what he had, so that put him "behind the 8-ball" so to speak. So once he realizes what he really does have (after 2nd season), he works on the defense, because it's the fastest way to field a team that will at least compete with the competition. They are a young defense - they will come around with time. I do believe he will now work on the offense, and remember this - all teams will hit and miss with picks and players of all positions at times. The majority of fans that don't understand everything involved in trying to field a competitive team in the NFL, or any professional sports team for that matter will tend to feel this way - especially Cowboy fans - history has shown we are not the most patient people on earth. But I truly believe that JJ, Parcells and Co. are doing the best that anyone could possibly do - and not a bad job in my mind. And as I stated above, I am ecstatic that they are fielding a team that can at least "compete" with other teams. However, in saying all of this - I feel your frustration! PATIENCE MY FRIEND!

I don't play Madden football or fantasy league football. So my mind does not work in those ways. Developing the lines on both sides of the ball is the fastest way to improve any team. I haven't liked his approach at developing the offensive line. It takes time to fix a whole team, but I am surprised with his background and the type of offense that he likes to run that he hasn't done a better job of improving this o-line. Like I said, I am referring to center, right guard and right tackle. Only 3 positions. To have one position filled with a guy that is solid after 3 years is not having unrealistic expectations.

I don't buy that Parcells did not know what he had after the 2003 season. It was not that hard to know what areas needed improvent on both sides of the ball after the 2003 season. On defense it was obvious.

Look at who was let go after that season and you can see that Bill obviously knew that weaknesses of that 2003 defense. Ekuban, Edwards and Blade. The problem was that he didn't find anyone better. He and Jerry settled for less. Much less. They had some better options that off season and instead went with Wiley , Carson and a rotation of guys at corner back. None of those replacements were better than the 2003 guys they replaced and none are still here. He knew what he had and what he needed. He just did a poor job of fixing it at that time.

I credit him for bringing in Johnson for Galloway. This team needed a possesion receiver. I credit him for drafting Julius and finding Crayton later in the draft. Of course I will be frustrated with any decision that brings in Vinny Testaverde to QB the team. I never thought much of Vinny when in his prime, but going into his 17th season, he was not worth being a back up, much less a starter.

I am not saying fire Parcells, but he and Jerry have made some moves that make one scratch their heads.

 

[wileedog]

There are serious questions with right guard and center. So after 3 seasons, there are no definitive answers to these three positions. I would expect after this time to have at least one of those positions filled with someone that we would not have to question. That is not too much to ask.

Al Johnson was not an injury risk in college, was a very productive player in school, and was drafted right about where he was graded by most scouts. In fact in his first TC before he got hurt Ron Wolfe pointed out Johnson right away as a guy who was going to make an impact.

He was a good pick that simply didn't pan out. It happens.

I doubt we'll ever know if the treadmill incident ruined Rivera, but regardless a huge contract for a 33 year old guard was a bad move. We got the wrong GB lineman.

Rodgers and Peterman are obvious mistakes to this point as well.

Without a doubt, this is the most frustrating part of Bil's tenure here. His entire philosophy is built on TOP - to not have a decent O-line at this point is extremely disappointing.

 

[Hoov]

I've always liked parcells as a coach, and definitely dont want to see him go now as it would leave us in a huge state of turmoil, he started this whole change from 4-3 to 3-4. he cant leave now after one season with this new project, that would be like quiting right in the middle of something, what a mess that would be for the next coach to sort out.

If we didnt decide to make the 3-4 switch, we could have drafted a 4-3 DE to play opposite Ellis and had a decent line, then a wr and LB, OLinemen in the other rounds.

But then who knew Al johnson wasnt going to improve, who knew Flo would get hurt and Rivera's play would drop off so much.

Still the change to 3-4 kept us from adequately adressing both sides of the ball IMO. And that was definitely a Parcells decision, he has basically cleaned house here in dallas over the past 3 years.

could we have improved faster if he added some quality players and worked with the system that was here, probably.....but with Parcells, its his way or the highway. so due to the fact that he cleaned house, brought in guys he liked and cut ones he didnt and scrapped the 4-3 for a 3-4, well its going to take more time now to see a finished product, i mean he really has taken on quite a project here.

He made that decision and we have to be patient and suffer through some things, maybe it will be a much better team in the end, maybe not.

But for him to go now in the middle of tearing this thing down and rebuilding would be unfair to the team and players, the whole organization is really in a state of flux right now.

My oppinion is that Parcells decided ok, im changing everything around and its going to take longer to build a competitive team but im doing it anyway, he took on this huge project, well he better see it through then.