Passing scheme - more Dak friendly in 2nd half

Everson24

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I think us playing three murderous defenses in a row is making our team look worse than it really is.
That and every team gets ultra fired up to beat Dallas. We never get to play a flat team like the Commanders did on Sunday.
 

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True but then when you are looking at 2nd and long or 3rd and long no defense is biting on play action. Play action is great when your down and distance puts defense in situations where they know they have to defend both but no defense is buying a run when they know the offense has to pick up longer yardage.

Very true. Just overall better balance is what I'm speaking of. Far too often we're just ramming Zeke into 8-9 man fronts or passing without play action. More is needed to keep these attacking defenses off balance is all I'm saying.
 

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Very true. Just overall better balance is what I'm speaking of. Far too often we're just ramming Zeke into 8-9 man fronts or passing without play action. More is needed to keep these attacking defenses off balance is all I'm saying.

Main thing is getting better production on 1st down. In doing that defense has to respect both run and pass. I think early on it is easy to see that teams are going to focus on Zeke and Cowboys have to do a better job of making teams pay for their over reaction to keying Zeke
 
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There was no new scheme. It was mostly Dak improvising. His rushing TD, big pass on the run to TWill and TD to Butler was Dak doing his own thing. The biggest problem with our crappy offense is that it doesn't help the receivers get open. When Dak moves around, it makes the DBs and LBs harder to defend the receivers because of the threat of Dak running for big gains. Dak was the difference maker tonight. Not anything the coaches did to the scheme.

The TD run by Dak was not improvised, it was a designed read option that he kept because the Cardinals were selling out hard to stop Zeke at all costs, so much that #44 on the Cards just ran right by Dak to tackle Zeke and Dak just went right by him with the ball. Same guy got fooled on the PA pass late to Butler, the one that initially was ruled a TD and got them down the field to put the dagger in AZ.
 

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Main thing is getting better production on 1st down. In doing that defense has to respect both run and pass. I think early on it is easy to see that teams are going to focus on Zeke and Cowboys have to do a better job of making teams pay for their over reaction to keying Zeke

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The TD run by Dak was not improvised, it was a designed read option that he kept because the Cardinals were selling out hard to stop Zeke at all costs, so much that #44 on the Cards just ran right by Dak to tackle Zeke and Dak just went right by him with the ball. Same guy got fooled on the PA pass late to Butler, the one that initially was ruled a TD and got them down the field to put the dagger in AZ.

True.. I think it was the previous drive where Zeke got nailed on the same read type play where we fed Zeke, the end crashed and dropped him for a loss. Way to come back to this by the staff.
 

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The TD run by Dak was not improvised, it was a designed read option that he kept because the Cardinals were selling out hard to stop Zeke at all costs, so much that #44 on the Cards just ran right by Dak to tackle Zeke and Dak just went right by him with the ball. Same guy got fooled on the PA pass late to Butler, the one that initially was ruled a TD and got them down the field to put the dagger in AZ.

True, DE was pinching down hard on that play leaving the door wide open for Dak to take it
 

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Dak looks a little shaky in the pocket. I don't think he's trusting his line. He bailed out a of a good pockets multiple times last night.

Yes, I noticed this as well. I can think of at least 3 times I rewound the play to be sure, but the line completely stoned the rush and Dak rolled out right into pressure. He just feels more comfortable moving around.
 

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seemed like in 2nd half the team used Dak's mobility a lot more. Hopefully Garrett and Linehan can pry themselves away with notion to have Dak drop back 5 or 7 and hit bombs.

Dak doesn't have Tony's skill set yet for the deep ball. When he's asked to just drop straight back 7 and go 20+ yards seems like accuracy is big problem

However when he rolls out he's more comfortable like the deep ball to Butler.

Offense needs to get rid of majority of Romos passing schemes and go a bit more to what Dak is comfortable with even if it is College-esque which Garrett and Linehan might think is beneath them.

It does seem like his accuracy has been off some, even on the short passes, on straight dropbacks this year. I haven't seen any problems with his footwork, so I don't know why he's been off the mark on passes he should complete. I wonder if it has anything to do with this height. Although 6-2 isn't short, it's still shorter than those 6-4, 6-5 linemen in front of him so he may be off just trying to make sure he gets it over outstretched arms.

It certainly seemed in this game he was more comfortable when he got outside of the pocket and threw on the run. So I would definitely work on some designed rollouts to get him in the open and take advantage of that.

I also would like to see a few more zone read plays, especially early in the game, since the ends and linebackers are crashing hard to stop Elliott. If it can create a moment's hesitation in how defenses are keying on the running game, then that could be all we need to get the run game rolling.
 

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Main thing is getting better production on 1st down. In doing that defense has to respect both run and pass. I think early on it is easy to see that teams are going to focus on Zeke and Cowboys have to do a better job of making teams pay for their over reaction to keying Zeke

And not with 15 yards slow developing out patterns. Beasley and Witten can be murder on first down while the LBers are focusing on stuffing the middle. Not every time of course, but surprise us occassionally.
 

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Main thing is getting better production on 1st down. In doing that defense has to respect both run and pass. I think early on it is easy to see that teams are going to focus on Zeke and Cowboys have to do a better job of making teams pay for their over reaction to keying Zeke
Yep. 1st down production needs to improve dramatically.
 

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This guy hit the nail on it's head. Garrett scheme is dated. Where are the bunch routes? Wr's and TE's run specific routes based on their position. I bet that drag route to Dez caught the Cardinals off guard because he never runs that route.

Actually here's Dez's route tree Week 2 vs Broncos. You'll mainly shallow crosses. Nothing real deep.

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