Pat That Ball Once More, Drew!

[HDC]

Bledsoe seems to have no sense of when to throw it away. I saw him stand there and pat the ball once, twice, and even three times as the defense converged on him. I could see the sack coming most of the time, but he just stood there patting the ball again and again until he went down. I think, overall, he is a better than average NFL quarterback, but he could be so much more effective if he'd just get rid of it more quickly.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Bledsoe seems to have no sense of when to throw it away. I saw him stand there and pat the ball once, twice, and even three times as the defense converged on him. I could see the sack coming most of the time, but he just stood there patting the ball again and again until he went down. I think, overall, he is a better than average NFL quarterback, but he could be so much more effective if he'd just get rid of it more quickly.

True

At the biggening of the game, he made some nice throws, but after that, alot of his balls were off or he held the ball too long.

I think the problem here is he lacks mobility and the problem at the Tackle spots. He has to get outside the Tackles to throw the ball away, which is where the rush is coming the strongest and his mobility is fairly low so that presents a problem as well.

Which is why I dont understand why we havent seen the Shotgun Formation in I believe the last two games.

 

[aznhalf]

Bledsoe seems to have no sense of when to throw it away. I saw him stand there and pat the ball once, twice, and even three times as the defense converged on him. I could see the sack coming most of the time, but he just stood there patting the ball again and again until he went down. I think, overall, he is a better than average NFL quarterback, but he could be so much more effective if he'd just get rid of it more quickly.

Maybe the ball likes being patted!

Footballs need love too. Didnt' think of that, did you?

 

[Ashwynn]

shad up.

 

[devotedfan]

It seems the typical Cowboy pass play involves Drew taking his 5 or 7 step drop. The two 'turnstiles' at tackle escort the DE's in at Drew, who then has to step up. But because Al Johnson is an undersized, low talent at C, the DT are on him in an instant. The only pass play that works against that is a timing route. That would be a '1/2 step drop' and air it out, hoping a WR will run under it from 45-50yds away. :laugh1:

 

[Skip]

He drives me crazy watching him hold the ball. You would think he would get the message that is not a good thing!

When he drops back a lets it go fast he is a much better QB, but that is not often enough.

 

[kartr]

Bledsoe seems to have no sense of when to throw it away. I saw him stand there and pat the ball once, twice, and even three times as the defense converged on him. I could see the sack coming most of the time, but he just stood there patting the ball again and again until he went down. I think, overall, he is a better than average NFL quarterback, but he could be so much more effective if he'd just get rid of it more quickly.

After 13 years in the league, if he hasn't learned it by now, he never will, time to move on just as the Pats and Bills did with this guy.

 

[BARRYRAY]

I will not blame Bledsoe, there's way too many other places to point fingers, starting with the frickin kicker and we go from there. I still believe in Bledsoe but the guys around him on both sides of the ball s#$. Also I'm getting real sick of Key, he's wearing on me, he calls out others and what did he have like two catches fro 20 yards...

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I said the same thing Sunday. The response from the "Drew Defenders" is always...he doesn't have anyone open to throw to.

I accept that, but if he would just throw it away and not take the sack, it would save a ton of yards in field position!

 

[kartr]

He drives me crazy watching him hold the ball. You would think he would get the message that is not a good thing!

When he drops back a lets it go fast he is a much better QB, but that is not often enough.

It's like a broken record. If, when, where, what. Players play and win, and don't need excuses when in their 13th year in the league. Brady's had offensive line problems, running back problems,receiver problems, defensive line problems and secondary problems and plays in a tougher conference. As a matter of fact in 2003, we had offensive line injuries with Al Johnson and Ryan Young;Gurode's inconsistency and Torrin Tucker as a rookie udfa at RT. We had Jason Witten as a rookie, we had a combustible 2nd year receiver in AB who dropped 20% of the passes thrown to him including some td throws;we had Galloway disappearing for long stretches;we had no pass rush and a secondary that tied for the league low 13 ints. Oh, and we had a 3rd year qb with just 15 starts under his belt to begin the season and we played against 8 of the top 10 defenses and won 10 games in a breeze. We beat the Eagles when they were good, we beat the Panthers who went to the superbowl, swept Washington, beating them 48-14,swept the Giants 54-39 and posted what was then the 5th highest passing yardage year in our history, without a legitamate feature running back. But we didn't need excuses cause we got the job done.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I said the same thing Sunday. The response from the "Drew Defenders" is always...he doesn't have anyone open to throw to.

I accept that, but if he would just throw it away and not take the sack, it would save a ton of yards in field position!

In my post I offered 2 other possible reasons besides not having anyone open to throw to.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

It's like a broken record. If, when, where, what. Players play and win, and don't need excuses when in their 13th year in the league. Brady's had offensive line problems, running back problems,receiver problems, defensive line problems and secondary problems and plays in a tougher conference. As a matter of fact in 2003, we had offensive line injuries with Al Johnson and Ryan Young;Gurode's inconsistency and Torrin Tucker as a rookie udfa at RT. We had Jason Witten as a rookie, we had a combustible 2nd year receiver in AB who dropped 20% of the passes thrown to him including some td throws;we had Galloway disappearing for long stretches;we had no pass rush and a secondary that tied for the league low 13 ints. Oh, and we had a 3rd year qb with just 15 starts under his belt to begin the season and we played against 8 of the top 10 defenses and won 10 games in a breeze. We beat the Eagles when they were good, we beat the Panthers who went to the superbowl, swept Washington, beating them 48-14,swept the Giants 54-39 and posted what was then the 5th highest passing yardage year in our history, without a legitamate feature running back. But we didn't need excuses cause we got the job done.

As bad as the offensive line is playing this year, I still think the 2003 and 2004 group was alot worst. The 2005 squad would probably slap the 2003 squad silly, but yet the 2003 squad accomplished alot more. I think the Coaching staff, especially on defense was just alot more aggressive and we didnt adjust in the 2nd half of the season in 2003.

But it aint over yet, but it will be huge disappoint for this team with all of this talent to not make the playoffs.

- Mike G.

 

[Waffle]

It's like a broken record...Oh, and we had a 3rd year qb with just 15 starts under his belt to begin the season and we played against 8 of the top 10 defenses and won 10 games in a breeze.

Broken record is right. I'm speaking of you and this 2003 time-warp you can't seem to get out of. And by the way...all the games we LOST were against these top 10 defenses. Tampa, New England, Carolina in the playoffs, Philly, etc. The 2003 Cowboys couldn't even compete with any of these teams. We played a last place schedule in 2003 and would not have even beat Philly if not for that TD return by Randal Williams to start the game.

Get a clue.

 

[kartr]

Broken record is right. I'm speaking of you and this 2003 time-warp you can't seem to get out of. And by the way...all the games we LOST were against these top 10 defenses. Tampa, New England, Carolina in the playoffs, Philly, etc. The 2003 Cowboys couldn't even compete with any of these teams. We played a last place schedule in 2003 and would not have even beat Philly if not for that TD return by Randal Williams to start the game.

Get a clue.

Here's a clue for you, to date, we've only played 4 games against the top 10 defenses and struggled with them all,but we've also struggled with SF,Oakland,Philly who aren't going anywhere and as for the Chiefs, they have the 30th worst defense and we struggle with them too. They had us down 14-0 in the first half too. As for Philly in 2003, we led most of the game,but our number one defense let them back in it,remember Buckhalter's td run and also remember this, Carter's passing brought us back from behind for the win,just he did when we lost the lead to Carolina. Both of those teams played in the NFC championship. What good teams has Bledsoe led us in a comeback over? Time warp. You think the Bledsoe of today is the same as the one in '96. Get real. The defensive talent of the 2005 team is better,but the 2003 offense was more explosive in the passing game with half the talent.

 

[Waffle]

Here's a clue for you, to date, we've only played 4 games against the top 10 defenses and struggled with them all,but we've also struggled with SF,Oakland,Philly who aren't going anywhere and as for the Chiefs, they have the 30th worst defense and we struggle with them too. They had us down 14-0 in the first half too. As for Philly in 2003, we led most of the game,but our number one defense let them back in it,remember Buckhalter's td run and also remember this, Carter's passing brought us back from behind for the win,just he did when we lost the lead to Carolina. Both of those teams played in the NFC championship. What good teams has Bledsoe led us in a comeback over? Time warp. You think the Bledsoe of today is the same as the one in '96. Get real. The defensive talent of the 2005 team is better,but the 2003 offense was more explosive in the passing game with half the talent.

I'm not here defending the 2005 Cowboys lackluster play of late. You know Kartr...your problem is that even though you do make several solid observations and points from time to time, your constant attempts to time travel back to 2003 in order to prop up a former Cowboy QB completely ruins your credibility. Let it go already. He's gone and he's NEVER coming back. Everyone knows he wasn't the ONLY reason the 2003 team went 10-6. Like my buddy Nors always says, "move on."

 

[kartr]

As bad as the offensive line is playing this year, I still think the 2003 and 2004 group was alot worst. The 2005 squad would probably slap the 2003 squad silly, but yet the 2003 squad accomplished alot more. I think the Coaching staff, especially on defense was just alot more aggressive and we didnt adjust in the 2nd half of the season in 2003.

But it aint over yet, but it will be huge disappoint for this team with all of this talent to not make the playoffs.

- Mike G.

Yeah I agree, the run-blocking was better,but the pass blocking was worse. We couldn't exploit good run blocking with Hambrick toe-tipping around and the poor pass blocking put too much pressure on Carter. We didn't have Keyshawn to convert first downs and Witten was just learning to play. I think we were more agressive on offense too, because we knew that Hambrick was no threat, that's why we tried to trade 3 times for a real running back. I won't be disappointed if we don't make the playoffs because I never expected us to make it with Bledsoe, but even if we did, we would just get embarrassed like we did against the Skins and I don't want to see that. Not making the playoffs would go a long way in showing that Bledsoe was a mistake;maybe we could pick up Farve or McNair and draft a qb like Omar Jacobs for the future.

 

[Waffle]

I won't be disappointed if we don't make the playoffs because I never expected us to make it with Bledsoe, but even if we did, we would just get embarrassed like we did against the Skins and I don't want to see that.

A better analogy would be that we would "just get embarrassed like we did against Carolina in the 2003 playoffs."

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Bledsoe seems to have no sense of when to throw it away. I saw him stand there and pat the ball once, twice, and even three times as the defense converged on him. I could see the sack coming most of the time, but he just stood there patting the ball again and again until he went down. I think, overall, he is a better than average NFL quarterback, but he could be so much more effective if he'd just get rid of it more quickly.

How many times are you allowed to pat the football before passing it?

I know in baseball it is 3 strikes and you are out!

 

[conner01]

what did you expect? this is drew, always has been always will be. not gonna change him and we knew it when he came here. as i said when we signed him he can be a good qb if you protect him, but if the oline does'nt play real well he will struggle. but then again what qb did you want last off season?

 

[Maikeru-sama]

maybe we could pick up Farve or McNair and draft a qb like Omar Jacobs for the future.

NOooooo

Do you really want to bring those 2 guys in here. It is time for the Cowboys to start getting guys in here that have not seen their best days.

Im all about drafting a QB.

- Mike G.