Patrick Peterson and Dez

[Yakuza Rich]

Dez wasn't really shutdown. I watched the game over again and he got open on several occasions and Weeden couldn't deliver the ball to him. Dez can't throw the ball to himself and those throws weren't overly difficult to make. Even when Dez got open, Peterson still had pretty good coverage, but the lack of catches was due to Weeden's incompetence. There was also the pushing and the hands to the face that Peterson was using that wasn't being called (so much for a point of emphasis).

I think Peterson is great. But, any CB in the league gets beat by perfect throws. And in Dez's case, he just needed decent throws to get catches and Weeden could not even accomplish that.

I think not paying Dez would be a ridiculously poor decision unless:

1) The contract demands are so large that it's not feasible to do so.


2) There is something about Dez behind the scenes that we don't know about.


I think it is CLEAR that Dez is the 2nd best WR in the league, behind Calvin Johnson and we probably won't see another specimen like Johnson in the next 20 years. He is incredibly productive and is a leader on this team that energizes both the offense and the defense. He has also progressed in just about every facet whether it be his play or his off-the-field behavior. I tend to go out of my way to reward guys for their hard work.

Most of these pundits are just fanboys for other teams and would love to see the Cowboys lose Dez. And if their team picked up Dez at virtually any enormous contract, they would be signing his praises.




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[CowboyGil]

Peterson needs to send the Commander that kneed Romo in the back a thank you fruit basket. Because of him Weeden played, and PP "shut down" Dez.
I thought Dez already went up against the best CB in the league? but because Dez had a good game against him, all of a sudden he's not anymore?
Double .
Anything to not give Cowboys their props.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

The last 2 completions against Peterson tell you everything you need to know about that match up. Without the pressure of the game, Weeden finally put the passes in the right spot. Same degree of separation Dez got as the rest of the game, but nothing Peterson could do. And believe me, he was trying like it was the superbowl; it wasn't just garbage time. He was trying to shut Dez out.

He had more pressure from skins though. Did better in that game.

I think the pressure of starting. He never got past it... And it showed.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Let them talk all they want about it. When these two teams meet in the playoffs and Romo is there to throw to Dez they'll be scratching their heads about how Dez torched the best corner in football.

 

[conner01]

Peterson did shut him down though, Dez couldn't get any seperation the whole game. Peterson is a good player, give him props.

he did play well. but i've watched the game twice and dez was open several times early in the game but weeden did'nt hit him. youare never going to be wide open against a decent cb but weeden had opportunities and missed them all day till the very end

 

[AKATheRake]

That's because the writer's don't watch the games.

They look at the stat lines and the final scores and then write.

 

[Jarv]

That's true. But the post I was replying to was one that seemed to be affirming that Parnell is not better than Free. That's what I was addressing.

Fair enough...

 

[yentl911]

A lot of people in the know and film gurus have been talking about the amount of Holding he got away with. We all know the rules and what has been called this year - really ticky tack stuff - he got away with murder this game. He benefitted from having "low snd outside" as QB but also from getting a pass from the refs.

PP is a great player but if the game was called per the rule book and Romo played we would al be talking about something ride

 

[cajuncocoa]

the media is treating this loss as if romo played. barely any mention of weeden's horrific play. dez shutdown, arizona d shutdown our run game, cowboys collapsing.....no mention of romo.

The media thinks Romo is worse than Tim Tebow. Having him out of the game is a plus in their opinion, I can only imagine.

 

[perrykemp]

I think it is CLEAR that Dez is the 2nd best WR in the league

Surprised YR that you see it so clear cut that Dez is #2 WR in the league.

I think there is case to be made for sure for Dez at #2, however, sure seems like there are number of other really good WRs where the case could just as easily be made for #2 -- including Demaryius Thomas, AG Green, or even Antonio Brown.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Surprised YR that you see it so clear cut that Dez is #2 WR in the league.

I think there is case to be made for sure for Dez at #2, however, sure seems like there are number of other really good WRs where the case could just as easily be made for #2 -- including Demaryius Thomas, AG Green, or even Antonio Brown.

Peyton makes Thomas. Green is a fantastic route runner, but not quite the athlete that Dez is and Brown is more of a YAC guy who is still pretty young and not as proven. Out of all of the WR's I've watched, nobody consistently beats the corner and the doubles as often as Dez does. The only thing about Megatron is that he's so tall and jumps so high that he can have 2-3 guys hanging on him and catch the jump ball. Dez is a great jump ball receiver, but he's not on that level because he's shorter than Megatron and doesn't jump as high.

Last year Dez really played very well. He was beating doubles all of the time, but Romo didn't see him. This year Romo started seeing him outside of the Commanders game and he was fantastic. He was getting open against Peterson, but Weeden couldn't deliver him the ball. He also was getting open against Sherman and beating him as well and I've seen Green, Brown and Thomas against Sherman and none of them were nearly as effective as Dez was.

I also think he's an underrated blocker. He's not in Keyshawn territory, but he's effective and puts in the extra effort.




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[ConstantReboot]

Dez wasn't really shutdown. I watched the game over again and he got open on several occasions and Weeden couldn't deliver the ball to him. Dez can't throw the ball to himself and those throws weren't overly difficult to make. Even when Dez got open, Peterson still had pretty good coverage, but the lack of catches was due to Weeden's incompetence. There was also the pushing and the hands to the face that Peterson was using that wasn't being called (so much for a point of emphasis).

I think Peterson is great. But, any CB in the league gets beat by perfect throws. And in Dez's case, he just needed decent throws to get catches and Weeden could not even accomplish that.

I think not paying Dez would be a ridiculously poor decision unless:

1) The contract demands are so large that it's not feasible to do so.


2) There is something about Dez behind the scenes that we don't know about.


I think it is CLEAR that Dez is the 2nd best WR in the league, behind Calvin Johnson and we probably won't see another specimen like Johnson in the next 20 years. He is incredibly productive and is a leader on this team that energizes both the offense and the defense. He has also progressed in just about every facet whether it be his play or his off-the-field behavior. I tend to go out of my way to reward guys for their hard work.

Most of these pundits are just fanboys for other teams and would love to see the Cowboys lose Dez. And if their team picked up Dez at virtually any enormous contract, they would be signing his praises.




YR

I agree. Those that want to get rid of Dez thinking he isn't a top wide receiver in this league is just plain dumb. Picture Dez in a Giants, Eagles or Skins uniform for about 5 seconds. That will make you change your minds.

 

[MissouriCowboy]

Time to move on kick some Jax tail.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Michael Irvin did a great job of explaining Dez's game earlier in the season on NFL Network. Dez is not a guy who is going to beat you with precise route running to gain separation from the CB, although he has gotten much better at it. Dez is going to beat you with his unusual blend of size, athleticism, unmatched body control to go along with decent route running. So he's never going to create great separation. For a guy like Weeden who is inaccurate and easy to read as a defense, it's really a bad match with Dez especially when facing a good player like Peterson.

 

[TimHortons]

Dez wasn't really shutdown. I watched the game over again and he got open on several occasions and Weeden couldn't deliver the ball to him. Dez can't throw the ball to himself and those throws weren't overly difficult to make. Even when Dez got open, Peterson still had pretty good coverage, but the lack of catches was due to Weeden's incompetence. There was also the pushing and the hands to the face that Peterson was using that wasn't being called (so much for a point of emphasis).

I think Peterson is great. But, any CB in the league gets beat by perfect throws. And in Dez's case, he just needed decent throws to get catches and Weeden could not even accomplish that.

I think not paying Dez would be a ridiculously poor decision unless:

1) The contract demands are so large that it's not feasible to do so.


2) There is something about Dez behind the scenes that we don't know about.


I think it is CLEAR that Dez is the 2nd best WR in the league, behind Calvin Johnson and we probably won't see another specimen like Johnson in the next 20 years. He is incredibly productive and is a leader on this team that energizes both the offense and the defense. He has also progressed in just about every facet whether it be his play or his off-the-field behavior. I tend to go out of my way to reward guys for their hard work.

Most of these pundits are just fanboys for other teams and would love to see the Cowboys lose Dez. And if their team picked up Dez at virtually any enormous contract, they would be signing his praises.




YR

It's CLEAR, with capital letters, that Dez is the second best receiver in the league? There's an argument to be made for him being second but I don't think it's as clear cut as you make it out to be

 

[Zimmy Lives]

It's CLEAR, with capital letters, that Dez is the second best receiver in the league? There's an argument to be made for him being second but I don't think it's as clear cut as you make it out to be

Completely agree. There is a guy in Pittsburgh and another one in Atlanta that would also agree.

 

[mldardy]

Peterson did shut him down though, Dez couldn't get any seperation the whole game. Peterson is a good player, give him props.

No. Dez was getting separation.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

It's CLEAR, with capital letters, that Dez is the second best receiver in the league? There's an argument to be made for him being second but I don't think it's as clear cut as you make it out to be

It's clear to me that he's the 2nd best WR. I've watched All-22 and have seen Dez actually play better against similar corners than the others mentioned. He just can't throw himself the ball.

To me, it's only unclear if you're looking at statistics. But, statistics don't tell the entire story for a receiver because if he's open he still needs a QB to deliver him the ball. He gets more open on double teams than anybody I've seen in the league. I would only take Megatron because he catches almost everything thrown his way due to his size and leaping ability. And I'm a big fan of AJ Green. Put AJ Green in single coverage and he becomes a major problem as he's a fantastic route runner. Double him and he's not beating the double as often as Dez. Same with Antonio Brown.






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[TimHortons]

I also think he's an underrated blocker. He's not in Keyshawn territory, but he's effective and puts in the extra effort

Completely agree with this part

 

[TimHortons]

Completely agree. There is a guy in Pittsburgh and another one in Atlanta that would also agree.

We'll also see if Gordon is the real deal the last quarter of this year and next year