Patriot's offensive scheme and Cowboys WRs

[CyberB0b]

I watched quite a bit of the Patriots game last night, and one thing really stuck out to me. The amount of bang-bang throws from Brady to the wideouts. As soon as he gets the ball in shotgun, there is almost always someone who is instantly open. I didn't get a chance to give it a thorough review, but it has to be the in the design of the routes and playcalling.

With the Cowboys, it seems like the wideouts can't get open unless Romo has time to scramble around. Is this a case of playcalling/design, or the lack of burst from Dez and Williams off the line? Beasley seems to have the ability to do it, but he isn't very consistent.

Plays like a 1:45 in this video are what I am talking about:
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/20150...ameinfo|contentId:0ap3000000460574&tab=videos

 

[visionary]

On that team, talent is not enough
You have to know your assignments and play whistle to whistle
No crap no excuses just execute
If you don't execute and produce you are out

I love how bellichick coaches

 

[Danger]

I think the Cowboys offensive scheme is to beat your man straight up. The outside receivers run to routes and comebacks primarily and hardly use the middle or the field which in the Cowboys system, is mainly for the TEs and slot recievers.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Romo completed 70 percent of his throws and we had the 2nd best offense in football.

 

[TonyRomo17]

Yeah its really impressive how effective their offense is despite Brady's decline and their lack of talent in that side except for Gronkowski

 

[Tabascocat]

They have a well defined offense. It doesn't matter who they sign or draft, they are expected to fit into their system and they don't scheme to fit the players, if that makes sense. They can plug-n-play as they go.

It is different from ours, which is now a good one but if our players lacked talent, our scheme would suck, as we have seen. Romo masks a lot of our offenses weaknesses.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I watched quite a bit of the Patriots game last night, and one thing really stuck out to me. The amount of bang-bang throws from Brady to the wideouts. As soon as he gets the ball in shotgun, there is almost always someone who is instantly open. I didn't get a chance to give it a thorough review, but it has to be the in the design of the routes and playcalling.

With the Cowboys, it seems like the wideouts can't get open unless Romo has time to scramble around. Is this a case of playcalling/design, or the lack of burst from Dez and Williams off the line? Beasley seems to have the ability to do it, but he isn't very consistent.

Plays like a 1:45 in this video are what I am talking about:
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2015011801/2014/POST20/colts@patriots#menu=gameinfo|contentId:0ap3000000460574&tab=videos

Well in all honesty they were playing Indy and as you know we pretty much torched them also. But I know what you mean though. Romo tends to hold the ball for too long. We should always have a hot read and that when their is some kind of blitz the hot read receiver heads to an opening. Blitz was the one that was killing us. I'm surprised we don't have plays all the time to beating it.

 

[Texas_Pete]

They have several good "route runners" and a good scheme. They don't have a lot of 5-7 step drop back pass plays called. Brady is hardly touched, yet Romo gets blasted because he is waiting for players to get open or he tries to extend plays.

Their short passing game will essentially make it hard for Seattle's rush to get to Brady.

I'd like to see us run a few more short pass plays to keep Romo from taking hits.

 

[btcutter]

I watched quite a bit of the Patriots game last night, and one thing really stuck out to me. The amount of bang-bang throws from Brady to the wideouts. As soon as he gets the ball in shotgun, there is almost always someone who is instantly open. I didn't get a chance to give it a thorough review, but it has to be the in the design of the routes and playcalling.

With the Cowboys, it seems like the wideouts can't get open unless Romo has time to scramble around. Is this a case of playcalling/design, or the lack of burst from Dez and Williams off the line? Beasley seems to have the ability to do it, but he isn't very consistent.

Plays like a 1:45 in this video are what I am talking about:
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2015011801/2014/POST20/colts@patriots#menu=gameinfo|contentId:0ap3000000460574&tab=videos

I think Brady is more accurate than Romo on those short throws. He excels at them.

 

[Tenkamenin]

I like the quick throws in the Pats offense, i wish we did some more short slants especially when corners are playing off of our receivers.

I also like some of the gimmicks in the Pats Offense, the handoff to Edelman in motion was unreal, I was completely fooled.

 

[CATCH17]

Zoners will point to stats about and say what we do is good enough.


IMO, there are much better schemes out there.

Also, im not saying we need to scrap everything we do. We just need to add some of the things that GB, NE, and Denver do to just get the ball in their receivers hands.

Our short yardage passing game could be a lot better as well as just getting the ball in Dez Bryants hands.

 

[CATCH17]

They have several good "route runners" and a good scheme. They don't have a lot of 5-7 step drop back pass plays called. Brady is hardly touched, yet Romo gets blasted because he is waiting for players to get open or he tries to extend plays.

Their short passing game will essentially make it hard for Seattle's rush to get to Brady.

I'd like to see us run a few more short pass plays to keep Romo from taking hits.

Seems obvious but it it never happens.


When we had bad Olines I was begging for a shortened passing game and Garrett just won't adjust.


I will say though that we did some things with quick passes to Beasley and even once to Dez against Washington that helped out our offense. We just need more of it.

 

[CyberB0b]

Romo completed 70 percent of his throws and we had the 2nd best offense in football.

Based on what metric?

Yards: 7th
Points: 5th

Anyways, there is always room for improvement. Brady rarely gets hit, but have seen Romo being scraped off the turf too many times this year.

 

[DenCWBY]

On that team, talent is not enough
You have to know your assignments and play whistle to whistle
No crap no excuses just execute
If you don't execute and produce you are out

I love how bellichick coaches

I agree. No one player is better than the system and the team. I also like the way Belchk handles the press. Drives them crazy with boredom answers. The penheads try to get into his head and he just gives them nothing but the minimum. He does not throw players under the bus (publicly) but does not inflate their egos too high either.
He keeps everything inside and I think he and their system is what Garrett is trying to create. A system whereby everyone's expectations are met. Keep it normal, come to practice with your head on straight, understand your assignments, perform on the field and the team comes first. Get a few "top" players to buy in and lead by example holding everyone else accountable. It's why Garrett keeps practices and games in the same frame of mind. Also think that is why Garrett wants to keep Murray since he's a great locker room team guy. I'm not a big Brady fan but he sure has command of his game and you can see how he demands the players to rise to his level. I think that comes from Belchk design.
Just my take.

 

[Doomsday]

That is why the Patriots dont need elite WRs to do well, they use motion, bunch formations and rub routes to create separation for their receivers.

 

[Boyz981]

Zoners will point to stats about and say what we do is good enough.


IMO, there are much better schemes out there.

Also, im not saying we need to scrap everything we do. We just need to add some of the things that GB, NE, and Denver do to just get the ball in their receivers hands.

Our short yardage passing game could be a lot better as well as just getting the ball in Dez Bryants hands.

I think alot of teams wish their schemes were better!

 

[DenCWBY]

Based on what metric?

Yards: 7th
Points: 5th

Anyways, there is always room for improvement. Brady rarely gets hit, but have seen Romo being scraped off the turf too many times this year.

I think some of that is on Romo. Brady goes very quickly through his progressions and gets rid of the ball for the next play. Romo goes through his progressions which (I think) take slightly longer due to longer pass routes and then tries to make a play after busted routes. He's a sandlot QB, Brady a system QB. Not saying Romo is worse, just a little different.

 

[perrykemp]

I think some of that is on Romo. Brady goes very quickly through his progressions and gets rid of the ball for the next play. Romo goes through his progressions which (I think) take slightly longer due to longer pass routes and then tries to make a play after busted routes. He's a sandlot QB, Brady a system QB. Not saying Romo is worse, just a little different.

Brady had to be a guy who did it on reads, progressions, etc

He has never had the ability to make something out of nothing like other QBS

 

[DenCWBY]

Brady had to be a guy who did it on reads, progressions, etc

He has never had the ability to make something out of nothing like other QBS

True that bro

 

[Plumfool]

It's also the size of their primary receivers. Small guys. When Brady goes down field it's Gronk one of the backs or LaFell.



When Moss was there, the routes he ran, were down the field more times than not.