Patriot's offensive scheme and Cowboys WRs

[khiladi]

Should be interesting. He is going to have to play the majority of his career without Tom Brady.

Brady struggles without him and so do their WRs...

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I love the way the Patriots play offense. They can match up with anybody. If you play nickel to take away the pass they have no problem running the ball 30+ times. No mater what you do they will exploit the weakness in your defense with deception and disipline.

We on the other hand need to have superior athletes to get the same results. I like our phyisicality but I would like to add a little more deception in the future. I feel there were a lot of big plays left on the table especially on first downs when we ran it about 80% of the times into an 8 or 9 man front. Teams were really getting a bead on our tendencies late in the season. We can improve there next year for sure.

I think its not about having top notch athletes. their 1-4 depth chart is very close in skillset, compared to most other teams, thus they can spread the field with their WRs and take the matchup that favors them. in essence, taking a page from college teams, I bet my 3rd WR is better than your 3rd CB. they also have a very good OL and have had for years. with their new RBs, they have also added power running game and as you said, they will attack your weakness. plus, brady is brady. a lot of us may hate him, but he is damn good and he is damn accurate. he makes those WRs good.

 

[EST_1986]

Should be interesting. He is going to have to play the majority of his career without Tom Brady.

Hopefully Garoppolo, for his sake, will be Aaron Rodgers-esqe after taking over for Brady

 

[sbark]

the RB- Vareen can catch as good as any of the Wr's............gets a LB matchup everytime, Reminds one of Preston Pearson, Can our Dunbar catch like that?

 

[perrykemp]

It's also the size of their primary receivers. Small guys. When Brady goes down field it's Gronk one of the backs or LaFell.



When Moss was there, the routes he ran, were down the field more times than not.

The top 4 WRs, by yardage per game, in the playoffs were:

1. Antonio Brown (117 yards per game)
2. Edelman (93.7 yards per game)
3. Cobb (89 yards per game)
4. Golden Tate (89 yards per game)

None of these guys are taller than 5-10.

I'm a bit fascinated to see that these guys are bucking the trend and current NFL thinking that WRs need to be 6-2 to 6-4 and 220 lbs + to be successful.

There are so many ways to skin a cat.

The 'turn on a dime' quickness you see from players like Brown, Edelman, and Cobb is really under appreciated in today's game. Everybody is looking for the guys who can make the circus catches.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

Hopefully Garoppolo, for his sake, will be Aaron Rodgers-esqe after taking over for Brady

I doubt it, but who knows?

 

[EST_1986]

I doubt it, but who knows?

He is learning behind the GOAT

 

[HappyOnions]

Not even close yet. He may get there someday but I doubt it.

Talent wise, no question. He obviously needs to finish his career before a proper assessment can be made, but he's already racking up accomplishments at such an early age.

He's the JJ Watt of offense...a once in a generation type of talent, for sure.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

Talent wise, no question. He obviously needs to finish his career before a proper assessment can be made, but he's already racking up accomplishments at such an early age.

He's the JJ Watt of offense...a once in a generation type of talent, for sure.

This is certainly true, but injury is a concern.

 

[mahoneybill]

That is why the Patriots dont need elite WRs to do well, they use motion, bunch formations and rub routes to create separation for their receivers.

Nice analysis. Collinsworth was pointing out how they clear out a zone with the receivers, and Brady hits that man. It happens so quickly that it looks less complicated than it probably is. Also, he gets rid of the ball in around 2 seconds max... There was a quick comment to that effect that during
practice the Seahawks coaches would blow a whistle at 2.3 seconds to signal that he would have already thrown the ball.

Extra comments: Seattles D , as evidenced by Richard Sherman sideline antics after TD, felt that once in the lead the game would be over. They never thought NE could hang the amount of points they did, and also never have to even try a FG...

Don't know if its true but I think this may be the first SB to end on an interception where the team throwing it could have won the game.

 

[rags747]

Pats offense seemed pretty pedestrian to me for the most part, not very impressed.

 

[Stryker44]

Hopefully Garoppolo, for his sake, will be Aaron Rodgers-esqe after taking over for Brady

Without a doubt.

Look at Steve Young and Aaron Rodgers.

Utter failures and rejects. Benchwarmers.

They learned the game through Montana and Favre.

Now they are both going to be enshrined in Canton for eternity as well.

 

[Idgit]

They passed the ball effectively to win the game. For the most part, they were nibbling at the edges early in the game, and the Hawks let them do it since most teams don't have the patience or ability to nibble all the way down the field without making a mistake. And Brady threw the pick when he had pressure up the middle and threw the ball while leaning back. Dumb throws get you beat. Or they ought to.

Not sure how SEA got caught putting a LB on end zone coverage isolated on Gronkowski, but teams will take that, all day.

For the most part, I don't think the NE offense is that remarkable. More than anything, they have a culture that's so well established at this point, and a veteran team that executes really really well. It really ought not be that surprising that execution turns out to be more important than player skills, in some regards. Not that the Pats don't have skilled players, but what they really have is outstanding coaching, great execution and a QB who makes everything run.

To get that, you need the smart HC, you need the QB, and you need stability. Which, coincidentally, was probably the best argument for extending Jason Garrett in Dallas.

 

[Qbert]

if anyones worried about losing cole beasly this year or next look at NE

 

[Proximo]

With the Cowboys, it seems like the wideouts can't get open unless Romo has time to scramble around.

Well, things aren't always what they seem. Romo completed something like 70% of his passes this season (think he led the league). And it wasn't because he was scrambling around on 70% of his pass attempts.

 

[Gameover]

You want Bryant to run Edelman's routes? Good luck

Different skill sets

 

[CyberB0b]

You want Bryant to run Edelman's routes? Good luck

Different skill sets

No, but surely, Dez can run some routes that don't take 10 yards to develop. The main problem with the offense this year was the lack of hot routes.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Based on what metric?

Yards: 7th
Points: 5th

Anyways, there is always room for improvement. Brady rarely gets hit, but have seen Romo being scraped off the turf too many times this year.

I like the Patriots offense also. There are lots of hot reads going on and Brady goes to the one that has single coverage. I wish we would incorporate lots of those types of hot reads rather than run the play thats called all the time.

Green Bay built an offensive scheme that fits Aaron Rogers. After 2 seconds its jail break and the receivers go out of their routes to get open.

I think we are too dependent on how the play is drawn up which is fine. But they should have a hot read receiver on every play in which their job is not to run the route but to get open asap.