Patriots pass defense

[Eskimo]

Jerod Mayo will not play in this game, and the Jets had some success running right up the middle against the Patriots in the first half.

If the Cowboys want to increase their odds of winning this game, Romo's attempt number needs to stay at 34 or less, imo. If the Cowboys go over 35 attempts, the percentages say that after the game, people will be talking about some untimely turn-overs by Romo and some very poor decisions by the quarterback.

You can bet that the Patriots know these percentages, and they want Romo to be in a pass happy game.

You're mixing up cause and effect here.

The 34 passes is an arbitrary number.

I think all of us (including Garrett) would like to run it more but have been limited by lack of success or the game situation. We were running it more against the Lions when we had the lead but then it evaporated so we went back to passing more because we needed scores.

This OL needs to gel more before we will have consistent success running. We may need another premium player in the interior or a change in blocking scheme. These changes may come next year.

 

[twentytwo]

DEFENSE...that's how we win....hit Brady HARD, hit him early, hit him often!!!!

take him out of his comfort zone. Usually I don't see Brady as easy to get rattled, but I think it can be done.

When he gets hit, he gets rattled. We just need to be able to hit him without sending too many guys. Otherwise he will be able to pick us apart.

 

[burmafrd]

You're mixing up cause and effect here.

The 34 passes is an arbitrary number.

I think all of us (including Garrett) would like to run it more but have been limited by lack of success or the game situation. We were running it more against the Lions when we had the lead but then it evaporated so we went back to passing more because we needed scores.

This OL needs to gel more before we will have consistent success running. We may need another premium player in the interior or a change in blocking scheme. These changes may come next year.

You can complain all you want but the brutal facts are that once Romo throws his 35th pass we lose a lot more than we win. Some balance is what is needed

AND GARRETT NEEDS TO STOP HIS LOVE AFFAIR WITH THE SHOTGUN!

 

[Kevinicus]

You can complain all you want but the brutal facts are that once Romo throws his 35th pass we lose a lot more than we win. Some balance is what is needed

AND GARRETT NEEDS TO STOP HIS LOVE AFFAIR WITH THE SHOTGUN!

And you can refer to those stats all you want, but the brutal facts are still that you guys are using reverse correlations to come to conclusions. The facts are still that losing and game situations create more pass attempts, not the other way around.

Some balance is needed, but in this game, very little is warranted. The run should merely be there for a change of pace for the most part.

 

[jobberone]

That 31-8 record or 79.4% Cowboys winning percentage on 34 or less passing attempts, for Romo, is quite interesting, imo.

When Romo attempts 34 passes on the dot, the Cowboys are a perfect 6-0.

Here are his attempt break-downs from 34 to 55 if you are interested:

34: 6-0

35: 2-1
36: 3-5
38: 1-1
39: 2-2
42: 1-1
44: 1-0
45: 0-1
46: 0-1
47: 0-3
50: 1-0
51: 0-1
55: 0-1

The Cowboys' 11-17 record and 39.2% winning percentage when Romo attempts 35 or more passes is pretty interesting, too. That 35th pass is a big warning sign, imo.

Well, I do find that an interesting stat but you'd have to break down each game to really understand what it means.

I'd bet a fair amount of money we will throw the ball over 40 times against NE. If they turn the ball over a lot and we capitalize then that could certainly change.

NE will move the ball well and will score a fair amount of points against us. We're going to have to score to stay in the game.

 

[28 Joker]

Well, I do find that an interesting stat but you'd have to break down each game to really understand what it means.

I'd bet a fair amount of money we will throw the ball over 40 times against NE. If they turn the ball over a lot and we capitalize then that could certainly change.

NE will move the ball well and will score a fair amount of points against us. We're going to have to score to stay in the game.

I broke down 8 of the losses in the 35 and over attempt games. That was 47% of his 35 and over attempt losses. They are in the other thread. There are some big games in there, and not making the playoffs, in 2008, can be traced right back to Romo's poor performances against Pittsburgh and Baltimore. The turn-overs and bad decisions are a killer. I gave descriptions of every game pretty well. I think I forgot that the only TD of the 2007 Eagles game was set up by a late half, Romo interception.

I'd bet that if Romo attempts 40 passes, the Patriots will get their turn-overs from Romo and win the game. I don't bet, though.

The key to beating N.E. will be forcing Brady to throw the ball every down and taking away the run.

Dallas must control the time of possession and win the turn-over battle to have a chance to win the game. Winning on 3rd down will be key for Dallas in this game. The team who wins on 3rd down and keeps the ball away from the other team and protects the ball will most likely win the game.

If Romo is in pass happy mode, N.E. will most likely win the game, imso.

 

[28 Joker]

The Lions game was more valuable than this game. I thought the @ 49ers, Commanders, and Lions games were all must win games for Dallas. You want to stay on schedule and protect your home field. I didn't think the Patriots game was a must win. However, when you inexplicably cough up a 24 point second half lead, at home. This game becomes bigger.

 

[jobberone]

I broke down 8 of the losses in the 35 and over attempt games. That was 47% of his 35 and over attempt losses. They are in the other thread. There are some big games in there, and not making the playoffs, in 2008, can be traced right back to Romo's poor performances against Pittsburgh and Baltimore. The turn-overs and bad decisions are a killer. I gave descriptions of every game pretty well. I think I forgot that the only TD of the 2007 Eagles game was set up by a late half, Romo interception.

I'd bet that if Romo attempts 40 passes, the Patriots will get their turn-overs from Romo and win the game. I don't bet, though.

The key to beating N.E. will be forcing Brady to throw the ball every down and taking away the run.

Dallas must control the time of possession and win the turn-over battle to have a chance to win the game. Winning on 3rd down will be key for Dallas in this game. The team who wins on 3rd down and keeps the ball away from the other team and protects the ball will most likely win the game.

If Romo is in pass happy mode, N.E. will most likely win the game, imso.

Winning the TO battle and converting 3rd downs are vital keys to winning games in the NFL period.

Limiting Welker is one key to stopping NE. Putting pressure on Brady is the another. TOs are almost always the number one key.

NE will throw the ball and I suspect well. We'll have to keep up and hopefully win the TO battle. To keep up we will have to throw the ball. If we pressure Brady then we have a chance to win as well.

This is going to be a difficult game to win. It's hard to win there.

 

[CowboysEmpire]

The Lions game was more valuable than this game. I thought the @ 49ers, Commanders, and Lions games were all must win games for Dallas. You want to stay on schedule and protect your home field. I didn't think the Patriots game was a must win. However, when you inexplicably cough up a 24 point second half lead, at home. This game becomes bigger.

i wouldnt say the lions game was more valuable then this game but its a close call. all our games from now on are big games, we are heading into a very important time of the season. its time to get serious

 

[burmafrd]

i wouldnt say the lions game was more valuable then this game but its a close call. all our games from now on are big games, we are heading into a very important time of the season. its time to get serious

the Lions game was more valuable for two reasons:

It was a conference game

The Lions could very well be competition for a playoff spot


The Pats are neither

 

[TNCowboy]

You can complain all you want but the brutal facts are that once Romo throws his 35th pass we lose a lot more than we win. Some balance is what is needed

AND GARRETT NEEDS TO STOP HIS LOVE AFFAIR WITH THE SHOTGUN!

Beyond silly. When he has a ton of passes, that means usually they're behind or the running game is totally effective. Has nothing to do with the # of attempts.

:laugh2: so down 7 with a minute left, on our own 20, we should run it if Romo already has 34 pass attempts, because hey, we're undefeated when he passes exactly 34 times?

And running the ball plays right into their hands. Their one big weakness is their pass defense and everyone is advocating that we avoid it....

 

[Oh_Canada]

I think you beat the Pats by hitting Brady as much as humanly possible. Offensively, you can score on the Pats....key is not turning the ball over......Tony.

 

[AKATheRake]

You guys all forgot the most important thing.

We need to actually win the turnover battle.

Not win it for half a game and then give it back.