People who think there is a bias against the Cowboys everywhere...

Spectre

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are the same people who think we never set foot on the moon, there was another shooter in the JFK assasination and 9/11 was orchestrated by the government.

Just a guess.
 

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This is a great thread and I'm gonna let you finish, but yesterday Hostile posted the greatest thread of all time! OF ALL TIME!~

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Spectre;3047237 said:
are the same people who think we never set foot on the moon, there was another shooter in the JFK assasination and 9/11 was orchestrated by the government.

Just a guess.

well then, you obviously have never been abducted by aliends and had their scientific tests performed on you. Or maybe you just don't remember it happening because your memory has been wiped clean. Hmmmm ;)
 

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Spectre;3047237 said:
are the same people who think we never set foot on the moon, there was another shooter in the JFK assasination and 9/11 was orchestrated by the government.

Just a guess.

I don't understand what you're trying to say. Let's take it from the top.

Do you acknowledge that there is any bias against the Dallas Cowboys?
 

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Spectre;3047237 said:
are the same people who think we never set foot on the moon, there was another shooter in the JFK assasination and 9/11 was orchestrated by the government.

Just a guess.

you actually think only Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy?
 

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9/11 wasn't set up by the government, and we definitely landed on the moon, BUT.. i believe without a doubt that there was another shooter in the JFK assasination.. and there is a bias against the Cowboys..
 

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BigDFan5;3047241 said:
This is a great thread and I'm gonna let you finish, but yesterday Hostile posted the greatest thread of all time! OF ALL TIME!~

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Nice. :laugh2:
Just make that your sig so you can say it in every thread.
 

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The Emperor;3047243 said:
I don't understand what you're trying to say. Let's take it from the top.

Do you acknowledge that there is any bias against the Dallas Cowboys?
Sure. Many people are biased against a team they despise just as they are biased for a team they love.
But a bias against a sports team that happens to be one of the most popular and recognizable sports teams in the world is not good for business, in a major media outlet, when your business is sports. (ie: Madden videogame, NFL Network, ESPN, etc.)

That would be like not serving soda in a restaurant you own because you don't like soda. It's just not conducive to being successful in your business.
 

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Spectre;3047237 said:
are the same people who think we never set foot on the moon, there was another shooter in the JFK assasination and 9/11 was orchestrated by the government.

Just a guess.

Just ask hostile about confirmed bias in the Hall of Fame Voting against Dallas by Ira Miller. He gets to vote on who goes into the hall and is on record as stating he will never vote for any Cowboys to go in the hall. If that ain't bias then nothing is.
 

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Spectre;3047273 said:
Sure. Many people are biased against a team they despise just as they are biased for a team they love.
But a bias against a sports team that happens to be one of the most popular and recognizable sports teams in the world is not good for business, in a major media outlet, when your business is sports. (ie: Madden videogame, NFL Network, ESPN, etc.)

That would be like not serving soda in a restaurant you own because you don't like soda. It's just not conducive to being successful in your business.

You are making the fallacious assumption that people will not allow their personal bias to interfere with professionalism.
 

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RoadRunner;3047300 said:
Just ask hostile about confirmed bias in the Hall of Fame Voting against Dallas by Ira Miller. He gets to vote on who goes into the hall and is on record as stating he will never vote for any Cowboys to go in the hall. If that ain't bias then nothing is.
That's not a business. The voters do not profit from accepting or denying a Cowboy into the HOF so that is not what I was talking about.

You are making the fallacious assumption that people will not allow their personal bias to interfere with professionalism.
Not if they want to be in business long. Or be the best in their business. Which I assure you ESPN and NFL Network (for example) want to be and they could not exist as successful media outlets if they were motivated by personal bias.
 

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Spectre;3047237 said:
are the same people who think we never set foot on the moon, there was another shooter in the JFK assasination and 9/11 was orchestrated by the government.

Just a guess.

Your guess is way off. Just sayin...
 

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Spectre;3047330 said:
That's not a business. The voters do not profit from accepting or denying a Cowboy into the HOF so that is not what I was talking about.


Not if they want to be in business long. Or be the best in their business. Which I assure you ESPN and NFL Network (for example) want to be and they could not exist as successful media outlets if they were motivated by personal bias.

You do realize viewer based outlets such as the news(local, ESPN, etc.) have one objective..to increase ratings. Increasing view count increases advertiser bidding for commercial ad space. Many times this will be at the expense of fear mongering or certain negative reportings on a specific demographic.

For example, a local news station will have a report on the Swine Flu epidemic in their community to gain viewers that would otherwise be watching something else.

Another example, FOX news slamming Democrats because they know their primary demographic are Republicans.

In the case of sports and ESPN, it's rather easy. They know negative publicity for the Cowboys will cater to everyone not a Dallas fan, and Dallas fans will basically just watch anyway because it's one of the few sports outlets on cable.

If you're looking for utmost respect and professionalism in the major media outlet in this day in time, you're expecting too much. What makes an outlet successful NOW is not being "the best in the business" at what they do, it's simply using effective marketing and catering to your demogaphic to increase ratings which in turn increases profitability.



And yes I think there was another shooter. :D
 

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If I had started this thread, I would have been banned.


There's your bias for ya. :D
 

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Spectre;3047237 said:
are the same people who think we never set foot on the moon, there was another shooter in the JFK assasination and 9/11 was orchestrated by the government.

Just a guess.
Wrong in my case.
 

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Spectre;3047330 said:
Not if they want to be in business long. Or be the best in their business. Which I assure you ESPN and NFL Network (for example) want to be and they could not exist as successful media outlets if they were motivated by personal bias.

It doesn't have to be at the network level. Certain influential journalists / announcers like Berman have obvious biases for personal reasons and it leaks into the coverage.

Successful and brash teams like the Cowboys and Yankees make a lot of enemies along the way, it's human nature.
 

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Well officials definitely dont have any bias against nba players as we found out this week.

so...
 

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Spectre;3047237 said:
are the same people who think we never set foot on the moon, there was another shooter in the JFK assasination and 9/11 was orchestrated by the government.

Just a guess.

Not even close for me.

Although I don't think there's an anti-Cowboys bias everywhere. For the most part, the NFLN is overall great to watch as they do a fantastic job of limiting the biased reporting and analysis. Occasionally there will be some, particularly Mariucci doing everything he can so he can get the Commanders job, but it's pretty good.

The big issue is that the two biggest sports reporting sources who have the lionshare of the sports reporting are ESPN and CNN/SI and both live by the credo of 'when in doubt, report something negative on the Cowboys.'

You could question the accuracy of the poster who said that he talked to Rick Reilly, a guy who worked for CNN/SI and now works for ESPN, who point blank told him that sports journalists are apt to report negativity on the Cowboys because it's in their and the the company's best interest. I tend to believe that Reilly said that.

Plus, you've got the local Dallas media that loves to rank on Dallas very much for the same reason and it's well known in the local media that Jerry will always give more time to his critics than he will his supporters.

So, when you get an obvious bias from CNNSI, ESPN and most of the local media, it's easy to see why somebody would think there's a large bias against Dallas everywhere.

That's not true, but it's close. I don't believe Joe Buck has a bias against Dallas (he's admitted he just loves reporting both good and bad news on Dallas because it draws fans regardless). Todd Archer is usually excellent. Albert Breer and the Sporting News don't seem to have a bias. I don't *think* JJT has a bias against Dallas, but seems to have his vendettas against certain people on the Cowboys if they tick him off. And of course, the NFLN seems to be very fair as well.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist outside of thinking that Kurt Cobain didn't commit suicide. And I certainly don't think everybody has a bias against the Cowboys, just the large majority do and I like to point out their lack of professionalism and journalism ethics and integrity when it comes up.







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theebs;3047421 said:
Well officials definitely dont have any bias against nba players as we found out this week.

so...

What's crazy about the Donaghy book is that people who have read excerpts that are big fans of the NBA act like he was just being bitter and trying to sell a book. I stopped watching the NBA years ago in large part because of the refereeing and I just cannot fathom how anybody could dismiss Donaghy's book because I've basically seen much of what he's talking about. Now I refuse to watch one second of the NBA because to me it's a complete fraud until they completely re-do the refereeing.

The NFL refs for the most part are mediocre and definitely need improvement. There's an obvious demand from the league to protect the QB, but I don't think they are biased for any particular player. I think the problem with the NFL refs is that they are not graded and punished or rewarded enough along with there needs to probably be 2 more refs on the field so they can cover the field more.






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