Peter King's Projected Division Standings: Cowboys 10-6

[Sonny#9]

It's not like Peter has been wrong about Dallas predictions before.

Considering he picked the Falcons at 2-14, and the Lions at 7-9 last year...these predictions are fun and all, but ultimately aren't worth the paper their printed on.

I am still sticking with my prediction of 8-8 for the Skins, and a sub-.500 implosion for the Iggles.

I also think the Division over-all is going to be "down" -- division winner will win 10 games. More quesitons this year then any year before surrounding each team.

 

[windward]

:laugh2: are you serious? let me know when we force a turnover...

Pardon me for thinking we have a better D than a team that nearly allowed 4000 passing yards last year.

Sure they could stop the run but why bother when you could pass on them all day?

 

[Rampage]

Considering he picked the Falcons at 2-14, and the Lions at 7-9 last year...these predictions are fun and all, but ultimately aren't worth the paper their printed on.

I am still sticking with my prediction of 8-8 for the Skins, and a sub-.500 implosion for the Iggles.

I also think the Division over-all is going to be "down" -- division winner will win 10 games. More quesitons this year then any year before surrounding each team.

I agree 100% and have been saying the same thing all off-season

 

[Sonny#9]

I agree 100% and have been saying the same thing all off-season

This is going to a fun year in the NFC East...

 

[theogt]

a lot of people are expecting the NFC north to be better with Farve in Minny,Cutler in Chi-town and an improved Packers team. that's 3 possible playoff teams.

most likely Arizona or Seatlle maybe both will come out of the NFC west so that's 2 possible playoff teams.

ATL,Car, and NO from the NFC south. that's 3 more possible playoff teams.

NFC east has 4 possible playoff teams.

that's 12 possible playoff teams but only 6 will make it so 10 wins might not be enough when factoring in tiebreakers.

I'm sure the Jets expected Favre to take them to the playoffs as well. He didn't.

When has Culter been to the playoffs? The Broncos seemed to get worse every year he was a quarterback for them.

And I can see an improved Green Bay team....but it doesn't take much to improve a 6-10 team.

Still, the NFC had just 3 teams last year with more than 9 wins. Just 3.

 

[Rampage]

This is going to a fun year in the NFC East...

fun? we'll see but it will be interesting for sure to see how the teams in the Beast pan out. I can see any of the 4 teams either winning the division or finishing in last place in the division. so many unknowns right now for each team. But next weekend we'll begin to find out(I can't wait)

 

[FloridaRob]

If the pack goes better than 8-8 I will be shocked, yes they have played lights out in Pre Season, but they have also been runing their D as if it was regular season while most other teams have been showing very little, add that with the fact it's their first year in the 34 and 8-8 is a good standing for them... Offense is their strong point this year but I have a feeling that Rogers will take a step backwards around mid season... but only time will tell...

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not true at all. According to the coaches and the players. Capers has shown very little in the preseason. He is not game planning, just installing the 3-4 base defense with minimal wrinkles. He was quoted as saying maybe he has shown maybe 15% of his playbook in the preseaon and if that is the case, then there is a lot more to come. It is just that in years past what the Packers ran defensively in the preseason was all they had. No pressure, press man coverage. Capers D actually looks special. I do think the packers will struggle with the run tho.

If Rodgers stays healthy, it may be one of the best years ever for a QB in GB. Favre never had the quality or quantity of Receivers that Rodgers will get to work with. Put Jeremichael Finley on your fantasy team. He is going to be the best TE the Packers have had since Keith Jackson.

 

[Rampage]

not true at all. According to the coaches and the players. Capers has shown very little in the preseason. He is not game planning, just installing the 3-4 base defense with minimal wrinkles. He was quoted as saying maybe he has shown maybe 15% of his playbook in the preseaon and if that is the case, then there is a lot more to come. It is just that in years past what the Packers ran defensively in the preseason was all they had. No pressure, press man coverage. Capers D actually looks special. I do think the packers will struggle with the run tho.

If Rodgers stays healthy, it may be one of the best years ever for a QB in GB. Favre never had the quality or quantity of Receivers that Rodgers will get to work with. Put Jeremichael Finley on your fantasy team. He is going to be the best TE the Packers have had since Keith Jackson.

I need more information on this statement

 

[Sonny#9]

I'm sure the Jets expected Favre to take them to the playoffs as well. He didn't.

When has Culter been to the playoffs? The Broncos seemed to get worse every year he was a quarterback for them.

And I can see an improved Green Bay team....but it doesn't take much to improve a 6-10 team.

Farve is going to be terrible, mark my words. He always plays like crap in Minny. Always. Now he's playing 8 games there.

Cutler is going to miss Marshall and Royal. Their receivers are not good. Forte led the team in receptions with 63. Hester was their leading receiver with 665 yrds...

I don't get the Packers love -- didn't they have an awful defense before installing a completely different philosophy?

Every division in the league (except maybe the AFC South -- depending on what Jacksonville does) has a patsy. Except the NFC East...this division is so even-looking right now...

 

[theogt]

not true at all. According to the coaches and the players. Capers has shown very little in the preseason. He is not game planning, just installing the 3-4 base defense with minimal wrinkles. He was quoted as saying maybe he has shown maybe 15% of his playbook in the preseaon and if that is the case, then there is a lot more to come. It is just that in years past what the Packers ran defensively in the preseason was all they had. No pressure, press man coverage. Capers D actually looks special. I do think the packers will struggle with the run tho.

If Rodgers stays healthy, it may be one of the best years ever for a QB in GB. Favre never had the quality or quantity of Receivers that Rodgers will get to work with. Put Jeremichael Finley on your fantasy team. He is going to be the best TE the Packers have had since Keith Jackson.

In any given game you only "show" 15% of your playbook because you don't take your entire playbook to a game. You pick certain plays out for whatever reason (in a regular season game, the reason is geared toward your opponent). Teams should have almost limitless permutations of plays. Any claim like "we only showed 15% of our playbooks" is just kinda funny.

 

[jksmith269]

not true at all. According to the coaches and the players. Capers has shown very little in the preseason. He is not game planning, just installing the 3-4 base defense with minimal wrinkles. He was quoted as saying maybe he has shown maybe 15% of his playbook in the preseaon and if that is the case, then there is a lot more to come. It is just that in years past what the Packers ran defensively in the preseason was all they had. No pressure, press man coverage. Capers D actually looks special. I do think the packers will struggle with the run tho.

If Rodgers stays healthy, it may be one of the best years ever for a QB in GB. Favre never had the quality or quantity of Receivers that Rodgers will get to work with. Put Jeremichael Finley on your fantasy team. He is going to be the best TE the Packers have had since Keith Jackson.

IDK what would you expect Capers and the players to say? it won't be very easy to install exotic blitz packages in mid season, it's something that has to be worked on and takes time to get for most LB's, and if you listen to NFL Radio on Sirius or XM, most of the announcers there agree that the pack has shown way to much of their D in the preseason. Pat Kirwan said it best yesterday when he said back in the Day they had installed a new D, and went 5-0 in preseason but only won 4 games in the regular season 1989 Jets I believe he was the D cord at that time...

 

[Chocolate Lab]

The legend of Dom Capers grows!

So the Pack aren't gameplanning? Well, offenses aren't gameplanning to get Kampman in space yet, either.

Almost any team that changes to a completely new system is going to struggle at first, unless for some reason they already happen to have players that are a better fit for it. I don't see that being the case in Green Bay.

 

[FloridaRob]

IDK what would you expect Capers and the players to say? it won't be very easy to install exotic blitz packages in mid season, it's something that has to be worked on and takes time to get for most LB's, and if you listen to NFL Radio on Sirius or XM, most of the announcers there agree that the pack has shown way to much of their D in the preseason. Pat Kirwan said it best yesterday when he said back in the Day they had installed a new D, and went 5-0 in preseason but only won 4 games in the regular season 1989 Jets I believe he was the D cord at that time...

thats the thing, there has not been any exoctic blitz package.

I know that Bob McGinn statistically broke down the defense over the first three games and while I can not link the article because it is an insider report, I can say that the Packers have not been blitzing like you would think. Here is a portion of that article...

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

"Several players said their defensive playbook from Capers is about twice as thick as it was last year under coordinator Bob Sanders. In fact, they insist it's every bit as big as the Packers' offensive playbook, which is unheard of in the football world.

"It's way more than 500 (pages)," cornerback Tramon Williams said. "It's the biggest one I ever saw in my life. But we picked it up pretty good."

and this

"Although it might appear as if much of the Packers' pressure has been blitz-generated, well, let's just say the situation isn't what it seems."

and this

"The fact that fans might think Capers has been blitzing a lot more mirrors the problem faced by offenses. On 20 of the 39 drop-backs faced by the No. 1 defense, Capers either has dropped the defensive linemen in a 3-4 front into coverage or the front-four players in his sub package into coverage; linebackers or defensive backs then fill in as rushers"

then he went into the breakdown the stats of how they have have not blitzed like you think they have specifically showing how many times they rushed 4 or 5 or 6 and six was like 2% of the time.

I would say that the stats show more of what the Packers have actually done in the preseason over a commentators opinion who might have watched two minutes of the game.

If the Packers can play this well without game planning, it speaks volumes about what they can do with game planning.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

When did Jay Cutler become more than pretty good?



Is there any outlet w/ notoriously accurate predictions?

 

[FloridaRob]

The legend of Dom Capers grows!

So the Pack aren't gameplanning? Well, offenses aren't gameplanning to get Kampman in space yet, either.

Almost any team that changes to a completely new system is going to struggle at first, unless for some reason they already happen to have players that are a better fit for it. I don't see that being the case in Green Bay.

Kampman will have his hand on the ground rushing the passer more than he will be chaing Adrain Peterson down the field.

I do expect the Packers to struggle against the run but I thnk the offense will be able to help by making the other team play catchup. If they can handle the run, they will be fine. Barnett is coming off an injury and played for the 1st time last night so he is still a big question mark.

 

[Hoofbite]

When did Jay Cutler become more than pretty good?



Is there any outlet w/ notoriously accurate predictions?

Pretty good has gotten plenty of QBs to the playoffs. Cutler definitely improves the Bears. If their D shows up like it can, I think the Bears win the north.

 

[jksmith269]

thats the thing, there has not been any exoctic blitz package.

I know that Bob McGinn statistically broke down the defense over the first three games and while I can not link the article because it is an insider report, I can say that the Packers have not been blitzing like you would think. Here is a portion of that article...

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

"Several players said their defensive playbook from Capers is about twice as thick as it was last year under coordinator Bob Sanders. In fact, they insist it's every bit as big as the Packers' offensive playbook, which is unheard of in the football world.

"It's way more than 500 (pages)," cornerback Tramon Williams said. "It's the biggest one I ever saw in my life. But we picked it up pretty good."

and this

"Although it might appear as if much of the Packers' pressure has been blitz-generated, well, let's just say the situation isn't what it seems."

and this

"The fact that fans might think Capers has been blitzing a lot more mirrors the problem faced by offenses. On 20 of the 39 drop-backs faced by the No. 1 defense, Capers either has dropped the defensive linemen in a 3-4 front into coverage or the front-four players in his sub package into coverage; linebackers or defensive backs then fill in as rushers"

then he went into the breakdown the stats of how they have have not blitzed like you think they have specifically showing how many times they rushed 4 or 5 or 6 and six was like 2% of the time.

I would say that the stats show more of what the Packers have actually done in the preseason over a commentators opinion who might have watched two minutes of the game.

If the Packers can play this well without game planning, it speaks volumes about what they can do with game planning.

Like your article, Pat also covered this yesterday, most teams don't consider it a Blitz unless more than 6 rush the passer when back in the day anything more than 4 was considered a Blitz. The thing is there hasn't been any exotic blitz packages, and that's going to be their problem, they will try to install them during the season and that's when the mistakes will happen, a safety will miss a coverage, a LB will miss a TE in the flat on secondary assignments and such. you also have to remember that teams have not been game planning for the packer D, which starting next week they will... While the numbers look good in preseason I just don't think they will carry over to the regular season...

 

[mldardy]

When did Jay Cutler become more than pretty good?



Is there any outlet w/ notoriously accurate predictions?

My brother who is a Bronco fan called him "great". I just rolled my eyes. There are two great QB's in this league(Peyton Manning and Tom Brady) and neither are named Jay Cutler. I think he has a lot of talent and a strong arm but he also has a losing record and no playoff appearances. Not all his fault but the QB gets the credit and the blame most of the time.

 

[Kevinicus]

LOL, he picked the Chefs to go 8-8.

 

[FloridaRob]

the thing about Cutler is he played with an offensive minded coach in Shanahan and now goes to work with Lovie who is not. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.