Peterson wants at least 25 Million guaranteed to sign with Dallas

[Rogerthat12]

There's no guarantee that Gurley will be ready for week 1. Even if he is, who knows what he'll be like. Another question mark that I don't want to have to deal with. The other RBs have not proven it in the NFL. Everyone thought Trent Richardson was a can't miss sure shot no1 RB. There's just no guarantees with rookie RBs. Murray, while no guarantee he will stay healthy, is much more of a guarantee to be continue what he did last year. Getting rid of question marks is the whole point of an off season.

Also, as someone stated earlier, the premium pass rushers are all being picked up, not a lot left. If Dallas truly wanted one, they'd would have had gotten one. It's clear they are looking for the Mincey type pass rusher. If that's the case, overpaying for Murray will have no effect on it.

Gurley is a top 10 talent and has indicated he will be ready for the season. Gordon and others are ready to go as well.

There is always questions with drafted players, that is why evaluation is necessary and is part of the process every year.

Murray will probably not be back and as you point out, certitude (100% Knowing) can not even be had if Murray stays with the team with his injury history.

So there are no guaruntees with any running backs for that matter but you can not allow fear to dictate your strategy.

There are still a few pass rushers available in free agency, most will probably be gone at 27 so good luck with that one!

 

[cowboys1985]

Gurley is a top 10 talent and has indicated he will be ready for the season. Gordon and others are ready to go as well.

There is always questions with drafted players, that is why evaluation is necessary and is part of the process every year.

Murray will probably not be back and as you point out, certitude (100% Knowing) can not even be had if Murray stays with the team with his injury history.

So there are no guaruntees with any running backs for that matter but you can not allow fear to dictate your strategy.

There are still a few pass rushers available in free agency, most will probably be gone at 27 so good luck with that one!

My point while there are never guarantees, you have more of a guarantee with Murray. I don't believe you should go into a season where you have legit SB dreams, and create a question mark.

To say Murray will probably not be back isn't true. Most of the reports are just opinions aimed to get clicks. I don't buy the Jacksonville rumors because there's nothing holding them back from making an offer, and yet we've haven't heard anything. Murray and Dallas probably still don't know what will happen because the market is still being set.

To say signing Murray will cost you an elite pass rusher in FA isn't true because Dallas isn't looking for high priced pass rushers. They are looking for rotational players with pass rushing skills. And before we poo-poo that idea, just look at Julius Peppers did for GB last year. It's a valid plan, assuming you land the correct guys.

 

[Rogerthat12]

My point while there are never guarantees, you have more of a guarantee with Murray. I don't believe you should go into a season where you have legit SB dreams, and create a question mark.

To say Murray will probably not be back isn't true. Most of the reports are just opinions aimed to get clicks. I don't buy the Jacksonville rumors because there's nothing holding them back from making an offer, and yet we've haven't heard anything. Murray and Dallas probably still don't know what will happen because the market is still being set.

To say signing Murray will cost you an elite pass rusher in FA isn't true because Dallas isn't looking for high priced pass rushers. They are looking for rotational players with pass rushing skills. And before we poo-poo that idea, just look at Julius Peppers did for GB last year. It's a valid plan, assuming you land the correct guys.

Murray has an injury history which stultifies your point.

I would like to believe you on Murray coming back but he will test the market and if we are unwilling to match any high offers, he is gone.

Murray probably not coming back is not just clicks, it is the reality of free agency.

Not hearing anything at this point means very little, behind the scenes things are cooking.

We do not know if Dallas is looking for a premium FA pass rusher or another bargain bin guy. They may look at guys who have had issues like Hardy who is elite, who they can get cheaper because of other teams fears.

Or they may be able to get several reasonable guys with the savings from not signing Murray.

I would love to have Murray back, I hope we can do it but I think he may very well take the cash!

 

[viman96]

I love ap but I would not pay him that. He's trying to compensate for missing s year. No way in hell Id throw that money at him

He was paid last year.

 

[Wood]

keep your winter coat cause your staying in Minn then.

 

[Beast_from_East]

McCoy got 26.5 million in guaranteed money.

If we could get AP for a 4 year 32 million dollar contract with 25 million guaranteed, it would make a lot of sense for us. 12 million dollar signing bonus


Year 1 - 3 million dollars
Year 2 - 4 million dollars
Year 3 - 6 million dollars
Year 4 - 7 million dollars

Prorated bonus would be 3 million a year

first two years would cost us 13 million dollars.

If you wanted to cut him in year 3 it would cost 9 million in dead money, but you could split the cost over two years. Likely you keep him at least for the first 3 years.

You want to pay Peterson $32 million dollars with almost 80% of the contract guaranteed?

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I don't understand. I was told that AP would give us a discount because playing for the star was payment enough.

 

[cowboys1985]

Murray has an injury history which stultifies your point.

I would like to believe you on Murray coming back but he will test the market and if we are unwilling to match any high offers, he is gone.

Murray probably not coming back is not just clicks, it is the reality of free agency.

Not hearing anything at this point means very little, behind the scenes things are cooking.

We do not know if Dallas is looking for a premium FA pass rusher or another bargain bin guy. They may look at guys who have had issues like Hardy who is elite, who they can get cheaper because of other teams fears.

Or they may be able to get several reasonable guys with the savings from not signing Murray.

I would love to have Murray back, I hope we can do it but I think he may very well take the cash!

They ran Murray into the ground last year, and aside for a freak injury in breaking his hand (which he played through) he was fine. This clears up a lot of the injury questions that I've had with him. The reality of free agency is, no one really knows if he will come back, and anything that has been said either one way or the other, is pure conjecture. Most of which is indeed intended to get clicks. That is the reality of free agency. It's a business for not only the NFL but for the "media" that covers it.

Dallas not looking for a premium FA pass rusher is pretty much the only thing we know about FA as the front office have repeatedly said they aren't expect to make splashes in FA. That's really the only thing that's on record regarding FA.

 

[skinsscalper]

So we've already said Goodbye to Murray?

I'm really disgusted by all this ... Murray is a true blue Cowboys who wants to be here ...

Adrian Peterson - what has this guy ever done with Minny?

This is literally one of the dumbest questions I have ever read on this board. Congratulations.

 

[Galian Beast]

You want to pay Peterson $32 million dollars with almost 80% of the contract guaranteed?

As I broke down in the math, you could easily cut him after 2 or 3 years.

 

[Chuck 54]

No way on AP.....if that's truly his number.

 

[Rogerthat12]

They ran Murray into the ground last year, and aside for a freak injury in breaking his hand (which he played through) he was fine. This clears up a lot of the injury questions that I've had with him. The reality of free agency is, no one really knows if he will come back, and anything that has been said either one way or the other, is pure conjecture. Most of which is indeed intended to get clicks. That is the reality of free agency. It's a business for not only the NFL but for the "media" that covers it.

Dallas not looking for a premium FA pass rusher is pretty much the only thing we know about FA as the front office have repeatedly said they aren't expect to make splashes in FA. That's really the only thing that's on record regarding FA.

This was this past year but Murray has a history with injury not only in college but with us in the NFL, this stultifies your entire argument.

With reference to free agency, the Cowboys also have said it would be difficult to keep both Dez and Murray, we know that for sure.

They have also said they have a range for Murray, indicating if he is priced out of the range, they will let him go.

Dallas has said it is looking for pass rush primarily in free agency, they will obviously look for bargains but if a guy like Hardy, who is a premium pass rusher, will accept a reasonable offer, you bet the Cowboys would pull the trigger if interested.

Not signing Murray simply provides options to sign other defensive players, whether they are elite or several bargain bin players. Regardless, they are looking for value, I think we all know that as of late.

The reality of free agency is productive players get overpaid in free agency, clicks are for websites and sports organizations.

I agree that no one knows with certitude what will happen but what we do know is that Murray is productive player entering free agency and is seeking to test the market for the max offer.

We do not know what the Cowboys cut off number is but it is probable that a team with the need and cap space can find it quick!

 

[Brooksey]

I really do think in order for us to win a SB we need AP or Murray.

We need a very tough RB that is physical to take on Seattle. I cannot imagine us going up to SEA and beating them with Randle behind our line, or another fairly average RB regardless of our OL

Agreed, imagine Spiller trying to carve out the tough yards up in Seattle...Lol

 

[Nightman]

Gurley is a top 10 talent and has indicated he will be ready for the season. Gordon and others are ready to go as well.

There is always questions with drafted players, that is why evaluation is necessary and is part of the process every year.

Murray will probably not be back and as you point out, certitude (100% Knowing) can not even be had if Murray stays with the team with his injury history.

So there are no guaruntees with any running backs for that matter but you can not allow fear to dictate your strategy.

There are still a few pass rushers available in free agency, most will probably be gone at 27 so good luck with that one!

Counting on getting Gurley in the draft is a huge risk to take. Free Agency will be over and Gurley and Gordon get scooped up in the early first, then what? Ray Rice???

 

[chagus]

Laters.

 

[JoeKing]

Wait... $8 million per year times 3 years = $24 million. How is it possible to guarantee $25 mil?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Counting on getting Gurley in the draft is a huge risk to take. Free Agency will be over and Gurley and Gordon get scooped up in the early first, then what? Ray Rice???

Didn't he have a bum knee and couldn't run the 40 at the combine? Thought I read that some where.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Counting on getting Gurley in the draft is a huge risk to take. Free Agency will be over and Gurley and Gordon get scooped up in the early first, then what? Ray Rice???

Gurley, Gordon, Ajayi, Colemen, Johnson this is just to name a few, this is a DEEP RB draft class.

Chances are that Gordon and Gurley will be there at #27 but if not other excellent backs will be available in the 2cnd and 3rd who could make a difference.

Ideally you get Murray back but if you can not, draft a good back!

 

[Idgit]

Math doesn't work.

But $8M per was the high end of what I'd even consider for him. I think $7M per is a better number, and I wouldn't guarantee 100% of the contract, obviously.

I would probably do 3 years/$21M, with $14M guaranteed. Otherwise, a discount from Murray or just draft a guy who doesn't fumble and can give us some semblance of pass blocking.

 

[cowboys1985]

This was this past year but Murray has a history with injury not only in college but with us in the NFL, this stultifies your entire argument.

With reference to free agency, the Cowboys also have said it would be difficult to keep both Dez and Murray, we know that for sure.

They have also said they have a range for Murray, indicating if he is priced out of the range, they will let him go.

Dallas has said it is looking for pass rush primarily in free agency, they will obviously look for bargains but if a guy like Hardy, who is a premium pass rusher, will accept a reasonable offer, you bet the Cowboys would pull the trigger if interested.

Not signing Murray simply provides options to sign other defensive players, whether they are elite or several bargain bin players. Regardless, they are looking for value, I think we all know that as of late.

The reality of free agency is productive players get overpaid in free agency, clicks are for websites and sports organizations.

I agree that no one knows with certitude what will happen but what we do know is that Murray is productive player entering free agency and is seeking to test the market for the max offer.

We do not know what the Cowboys cut off number is but it is probable that a team with the need and cap space can find it quick!

To handle the workload he did, without wearing down speaks more about "injury" issues than what he dealt with in college and early in his career. That is my point. His health last year was no fluke and it speaks volumes towards dispensing a "injury-prone" label.

Yes Dallas did say that, bout without figures being tossed around that doesn't mean anything. It should also speak volumes, that we have not heard a peep in terms of actual contract ranges for one of the top FA available. Your reality of FA doesn't always hold true, especially with RBs. Fact of the matter is the market for Murray isn't set, so we don't know if it fits within Dallas's range.

In regards to Hardy, does he seem like a Jason Garret type of guy? So there's no guarantee he is even a target for Dallas. Plus we wont even know what his availability is for next year. And like Murray, we don't know what the market holds for him either. I'm just saying signing Murray will not prevent Dallas from finding pass rushers in FA, at least the type of pass rushers that Dallas had said they are looking at.