PFF: Dak Love

[ConceptCoop]

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Except not. They shared a stat. Kessler and Cassel completed a lot of their passes in pre-season--that's all the stat suggests.

 

[DFWJC]

Except not. They shared a stat. Kessler and Cassel completed a lot of their passes in pre-season--that's all the stat suggests.

Isn't this stat for preseason only this year?

Hey, I'm on team Dak. I'd just rather use real games as evidence.

 

[ConceptCoop]

Isn't this stat for preseason only this year?

Hey, I'm on team Dak. I'd just rather use real games as evidence.

Yes. I'm with you--the stat doesn't mean much--it's only pre-season. But PFF is not saying that Cassel or Kessler are good, or even average players. They're simply saying: These guys have completed the most passes, adjusted for distance this pre-season.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Yes it is. Their grades are subjective--in that they watch a play and decide how to grade it based on what they see. This stat is objective--in that they simply chart completions and how far the pass travelled. In theory, they wouldn't need to watch a play to do that. I suppose the act of removing throw aways could be considered subjective--there could be some gray area--but then we're just picking nits.

Not just throwaways, but also determining if the QB's throw was affected by a hit. I am also not sure if they count box score drops or plays they felt should have been made. Either way, there is definitely subjectivity in PFF's "adjusted completion percentage".

 

[shabazz]

Dak is severely under-rated, plain, simple and no doubt about it.

Disagree.
1. Some go all in because of who he replaced.
2. Some go completely negative because of who he replaced.
3. Most of us judge him solely on his performance and the span in which he's done it in with out any bias

Game, Set, Match

 

[ConceptCoop]

Not just throwaways, but also determining if the QB's throw was affected by a hit. I am also not sure if they count box score drops or plays they felt should have been made. Either way, there is definitely subjectivity in PFF's "adjusted completion percentage".

We're picking nits. The stat is not a subjective evaluation of a player's performance; their player grade is.

Edit: Using this level of scrutiny--just about every stat is subjective. The entire rule book depends on subjective interpretation and application. We wouldn't call rushing yards a subjective measurementent, despite the fact that every yard depends on how a ref interprets the holding rule that play; and everytime a ball is placed, it is only the subjctive opinion of the spotting ref, etc, etc.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

We're picking nits. The stat is not a subjective evaluation of a player's performance; their player grade is.

Edit: Using this level of scrutiny--just about every stat is subjective. The entire rule book depends on subjective interpretation and application. We wouldn't call rushing yards a subjective measurementent, despite the fact that every yard depends on how a ref interprets the holding rule that play; and everytime a ball is placed, it is only the subjctive opinion of the spotting ref, etc, etc.

I don't know if I would call it picking nits. The truth is, nobody knows exactly what PFF's "adjusted completion percentage" is... it's one of their elite stats you have to pay for and they're not telling people how it works. More than anything, I am just trying to make sure everyone knows what is being discussed... hence my initial observation that it was indeed a made up stat from PFF. I never said anything about whether it was an evaluation of anyone's performance or not.

 

[ConceptCoop]

I don't know if I would call it picking nits. The truth is, nobody knows exactly what PFF's "adjusted completion percentage" is... it's one of their elite stats you have to pay for and they're not telling people how it works. More than anything, I am just trying to make sure everyone knows what is being discussed... hence my initial observation that it was indeed a made up stat from PFF. I never said anything about whether it was an evaluation of anyone's performance or not.

There's an article from 2013 that explains it in detail. It's on the first page when you Google it.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Disagree.
1. Some go all in because of who he replaced.
2. Some go completely negative because of who he replaced.
3. Most of us judge him solely on his performance and the span in which he's done it in with out any bias

Game, Set, Match

LOL...no. Check Mate!

 

[waving monkey]

Dak is severely under-rated, plain, simple and no doubt about it.

Dak made ROY last year maybe not.

 

[MissAnn]

Here and now, it would appear that among all current youthful NFL quarterback talents, Dak Prescott has the best shot at leading his team to a Super Bowl. That is a strong stance.

 

[Sportsbabe]

PFF didn't invent that stat--they're just sharing it. It has nothing to do with their player grades. It's just a fact that those guys completed a high percentage of their passes this pre-season.

There's a star designed for any and every argument that needs to be made

 

[casmith07]

Dak made ROY last year maybe not.

He's still underrated. Most pundits and haters are claiming his ROY campaign was just because of Zeke and the line.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

I don't care how "rated" he is as long as he wins.

He's a talented guy who displayed generational poise last year.

 

[jwitten82]

I stopped taking PFF serious after they gave Aaron Rodgers a bad grade a few years back when he threw for over 300 yards, 5 td's, and no interceptions. Nothing against Dak, but I just cant take them serious

 

[MissAnn]

He's still underrated. Most pundits and haters are claiming his ROY campaign was just because of Zeke and the line.

Lol, just when have they collectively been right about the Cowboys anyway?

 

[bsbellomy]

PFF didn't invent that stat--they're just sharing it. It has nothing to do with their player grades. It's just a fact that those guys completed a high percentage of their passes this pre-season.

So what is adjusted completion percentage? Plus they base it off only a minimum of 10 completions?

 

[bsbellomy]

Yes it is. Their grades are subjective--in that they watch a play and decide how to grade it based on what they see. This stat is objective--in that they simply chart completions and how far the pass travelled. In theory, they wouldn't need to watch a play to do that. I suppose the act of removing throw aways could be considered subjective--there could be some gray area--but then we're just picking nits.

Its objectivity can be monkeyed with when you start adjusting the sample size no?