PFF Pass Rush Rankings

[jterrell]

Malik Jackson is just some JAG? Brandon Graham is just some JAG?

Yes and Yes.

Graham is 31 years old with 1 season of over 6.5 sacks. He has been a full-time starter in only 3 of his 10 NFL seasons.
He had 4 sacks last year which ranked well below Michael Bennett or Chris Long. He's basically Tyrone Crawford.

Malik Jackson has only been a full-time starter only 3 of this 7 NFL seasons and was a back up last year losing snaps to rookie Taven Bryan. He's now on his 3rd NFL team.
He was cut by JAX then signed for only 3 years 30m which is really 2 years and 17.2M.

Knowing someone's name doesn't mean they can actually play.

 

[Mr_437]

Looks like the Cowboys will play 6 of the Top 10 pass rushes (guess). From the the perspective of the Cowboys OL, they're going to have some challenging games. Glad they drafted McGovern now.

Hot Boyz needs to step up as a group. Some interior pressure would help, Quinn and a available RG. There ranked about right...they have a lot to prove in the area of QB harassment.

 

[jterrell]

Looks like the Cowboys will play 6 of the Top 10 pass rushes (guess). From the the perspective of the Cowboys OL, they're going to have some challenging games. Glad they drafted McGovern now.

Hot Boyz needs to step up as a group. Some interior pressure would help, Quinn and a available RG. There ranked about right...they have a lot to prove in the area of QB harassment.

That top line is why DAL getting max passing success involves heavy doses of running the ball.
Very few teams will ever just put their 4 best pass rushers in the game versus DAL as long as we have Zeke.

We saw what DAL did to Malik Jackson when he was a Jag. DAL ran for over 200 yards.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Yes and Yes.

Graham is 31 years old with 1 season of over 6.5 sacks. He has been a full-time starter in only 3 of his 10 NFL seasons.
He had 4 sacks last year which ranked well below Michael Bennett or Chris Long. He's basically Tyrone Crawford.

Malik Jackson has only been a full-time starter only 3 of this 7 NFL seasons and was a back up last year losing snaps to rookie Taven Bryan. He's now on his 3rd NFL team.
He was cut by JAX then signed for only 3 years 30m which is really 2 years and 17.2M.

Knowing someone's name doesn't mean they can actually play.

Sacks are a small part of a pass rusher’s impact. That’s a very naive way at looking at football.

PFF has Graham as the 41st best player in the league. Not 41st DE, 41st of any position. Higher than Demarcus Lawrence.

Sacks aren’t the defining stat in pass rushing. Pressures are. Pressures can lead to sacks. They can also lead to rollouts and errant passes. Throw-aways, abandoned plays on scrambles, interceptions, even forcing the QB into the opposite DE. Brandon Graham is one of the best pressure DE of the last decade:

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/ww...pressures-each-season-since-2014-philadelphia

But everyone on the Internet is wrong, and you’re the only one who’s right because you base a player solely on 1 specific stat.

 

[jterrell]

Sacks are a small part of a pass rusher’s impact. That’s a very naive way at looking at football.

PFF has Graham as the 41st best player in the league. Not 41st DE, 41st of any position. Higher than Demarcus Lawrence.

Sacks aren’t the defining stat in pass rushing. Pressures are. Pressures can lead to sacks. They can also lead to rollouts and errant passes. Throw-aways, abandoned plays on scrambles, interceptions, even forcing the QB into the opposite DE. Brandon Graham is one of the best pressure DE of the last decade:

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/ww...pressures-each-season-since-2014-philadelphia

But everyone on the Internet is wrong, and you’re the only one who’s right because you base a player solely on 1 specific stat.

PFF is hilariously bad at rating players.
Graham isn't very good, period. He's 31 and has done zero in his career of note. Zero Pro Bowls, Zero effect or impact.
He's a solid vet player who'd be in every team's rotation but start for very few of them.

He played about 50 more snaps then Bennett to claim 2 more pressures and 5 LESS sacks than Bennett. He did have 5 more tackles.
He had 11 QB hits and 1 forced fumble.

His numbers are eerily similar to Tyrone Crawford.
TCraw had 12 QB hits, 1 forced fumble and 5.5 sacks.

 

[HungryLion]

Sacks are a small part of a pass rusher’s impact. That’s a very naive way at looking at football.

PFF has Graham as the 41st best player in the league. Not 41st DE, 41st of any position. Higher than Demarcus Lawrence.

Sacks aren’t the defining stat in pass rushing. Pressures are. Pressures can lead to sacks. They can also lead to rollouts and errant passes. Throw-aways, abandoned plays on scrambles, interceptions, even forcing the QB into the opposite DE. Brandon Graham is one of the best pressure DE of the last decade:

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/ww...pressures-each-season-since-2014-philadelphia

But everyone on the Internet is wrong, and you’re the only one who’s right because you base a player solely on 1 specific stat.

41st best player in the entire league?

Yikes. PFF should be ashamed to even publish that. Graham is a good player. But 41st in the entire league? Not buying it.

 

[unionjack8]

I think Quinn will have a huge year but the interior DL pass rush is very poor and Taco is a bust of epic proportions.
I hope they scheme jaylon to pass rush more than they have....

 

[jterrell]

41st best player in the entire league?

Yikes. PFF should be ashamed to even publish that. Graham is a good player. But 41st in the entire league? Not buying it.

PFF relies on pet stats they made up ignoring actual stats that are league official.
They then generate these stats by having extremely low wage outsourced people score individual games.

In the end this model works as the really bad takes generate lots of chatter and drive more clicks.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

I admit I do not watch these two teams much (or at all), but.....

Who the heck do the Bills and Bengals have to be ranked ahead of the Cowboys on this list???

 

[Altestic]

Malik Jackson is just some JAG? Brandon Graham is just some JAG?

Graham is the "one good pass rusher" and even he only averages a paltry 5 sacks per season for his career, even if you throw out his first couple seasons where he barely played.

Cox is massively overrated. He's three to four solid tiers below Donald and it's so far apart it isn't even funny. Sure he gets "pressure" but a lot of people do. He, like Graham, doesn't finish and is just ok against the run as well.

Malik Jackson? He was massively overrated in Denver playing inside of Von Miller and got an enormous contract for a barely above average cog in a hell of a system.

Their starting RE is Derek Barnett who was mediocre as a rookie and on IR almost all of last season.


The media dicksucking of the Eagles has been blatant all offseason. Why are they so all up on their pathetic wings? The Eagles suck.

 

[Altestic]

I think Quinn will have a huge year but the interior DL pass rush is very poor and Taco is a bust of epic proportions.
I hope they scheme jaylon to pass rush more than they have....

Jaylon should be the WDE on the line of scrimmage on all 3rd and long, 4th and medium/long, and 2nd and very long type downs... move Quinn to the other spot and Lawrence inside. LVE can man the dime linebacker, or if it's nickel then you can have LVE and Lee.

 

[Altestic]

I admit I do not watch these two teams much (or at all), but.....

Who the heck do the Bills and Bengals have to be ranked ahead of the Cowboys on this list???

Bungles have 2 has-beens in Geno Atkins and Carlos Dunlap who haven't been much of anything since 2015.

Bills are terrible lol. They don't really have much of anyone. They have Shaq Lawson who is oft injured and Matt Milano who is a career special teamer who had to step up to starter last year. Lol.

 

[mmohican29]

DALLAS COWBOYS
The breakout of Demarcus Lawrence has done a nice job of covering up the fact that Taco Charlton has been a complete non-factor since being selected in the first round in 2017. He’s racked up all of 38 pressures over his first two seasons.



16 seems low to me. I think they could be better than middle of the pack


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Lol @ this list

 

[buybuydandavis]

It's Lawrence, an aging Quinn and then a bunch of JAGs. 16th sounds about right to me. Charlton coming on and Gregory playing at least 12 games would help a lot.

Crawford is better than a jag rushing from 3T. But DT could use more juice. Too bad Irving was a putz.

Collins with a healed foot and the right sized shoes should be an improvement.

Let's hope on Hill.

The three of them could give us a nice rotation at DT.
Add that to a Lawrence/Quinn/Gregory rotatation at DE, and it could be a great pass rush.

That's a 6 man No JAG rotation if Hill can come through.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Graham is the "one good pass rusher" and even he only averages a paltry 5 sacks per season for his career, even if you throw out his first couple seasons where he barely played.

Cox is massively overrated. He's three to four solid tiers below Donald and it's so far apart it isn't even funny. Sure he gets "pressure" but a lot of people do. He, like Graham, doesn't finish and is just ok against the run as well.

Malik Jackson? He was massively overrated in Denver playing inside of Von Miller and got an enormous contract for a barely above average cog in a hell of a system.

Their starting RE is Derek Barnett who was mediocre as a rookie and on IR almost all of last season.


The media dicksucking of the Eagles has been blatant all offseason. Why are they so all up on their pathetic wings? The Eagles suck.

Malik Jackson had his best year not in Denver, but in Jacksonville 2 years ago when he made the pro bowl.

Cox is all-pro. Plus, he is a defensive tackle that has double digit sacks last year. That is unheard of.... so your point is a DT needs to be Aaron Donald to not be massively overrated? How many sacks does an interior lineman need to get your approval? 15? 20? 25? Both DTs on the all-pro team had double digit sacks for only the fifth time ever. But he’s overrated because ‘he can’t finish’, ok.

 

[UpNorth]

This site has some truly uninformed terrible homers

I get hating our rivals but to just post paragraph after paragraph of complete nonsense is embarassing

Lying about players on the internet isn't gonna help us win or someone else lose

 

[CowboyRoy]

DALLAS COWBOYS
The breakout of Demarcus Lawrence has done a nice job of covering up the fact that Taco Charlton has been a complete non-factor since being selected in the first round in 2017. He’s racked up all of 38 pressures over his first two seasons.



16 seems low to me. I think they could be better than middle of the pack


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I think Quinn has something in the tank for atleast a year but i think our DTs will be a force this year.

Like they were a force in the Rams playoff game? Giving up 250 yards rushing and a loss?

 

[ondaedg]

If you can't get a pass rush up the middle. I don't care how good the edge rushers are they just can't get there. All the quarterback needs to do is Step Up. I finally believe we fix that in this season's draft. But only time is going to tell. You cannot win in this league without middle pressure. That's why a great Center is so important

The Patriots have always had an inside-out defensive approach. Huge run stuffers at NT and good ILBs and safeties. Would be interesting to know how many of the recent past Super Bowl winners had more pass pressure up the middle than league average.

 

[Sydla]

No offense to our resident Eagles visitors, but this is why I often don't put a ton of validity into what PFF spits out.

The Eagles have a good pass rush but they are most certainly not the #1 pass rushing team in the NFL. If you go by more data driven stats such as Football Outsiders for pass rate success, adjusted pass rush, etc................ the Cowboys and Eagles were similar and more towards the middle of the pack not at the top of the league.

 

[Sydla]

Yes and Yes.

Graham is 31 years old with 1 season of over 6.5 sacks. He has been a full-time starter in only 3 of his 10 NFL seasons.
He had 4 sacks last year which ranked well below Michael Bennett or Chris Long. He's basically Tyrone Crawford.

Malik Jackson has only been a full-time starter only 3 of this 7 NFL seasons and was a back up last year losing snaps to rookie Taven Bryan. He's now on his 3rd NFL team.
He was cut by JAX then signed for only 3 years 30m which is really 2 years and 17.2M.

Knowing someone's name doesn't mean they can actually play.

You underestimate Graham. He's not elite but he's not a JAG either. He's a better pass rusher than Long.

I think losing Bennett could hurt Philly unless Barnett comes back strong from his injury.