PFF Ranks Starting QB’s Ahead of 2021 Season

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  1. CowboysFaninHouston

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    OK, here it comes with all the Dak detractors and another 10 pages of Dak this and Dak that...ready...3......2......1
    Complaint #1
    • what do these guys know about QB and QB play....They have no idea about cowboys and how everything been around here. Dak is no better than a 15-20 range
    Complain #2
    • oh, great he makes #2 money but is #7, we should have paid him accordingly and paid him around 30M which is where he should have been
    Complain #3
    • He doesn't deserve this ranking, perhaps they graded him on his 4th quarter play only, in the first 3 quarters he hardly does anything
    Complain #4
    • obviously these guys ignored 2019, specially the loss to philly at the end of the seaso
     
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  2. CowboysFaninHouston

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    sorry, I am not a fan of Stafford. he throws a pretty spiral. but has done nothing to deserve to be in the top 10....

    Also, I don't like Jackson...exciting player. runs a lot, but no running QB has ever won a superbowl. the only one that came close was Kapernick and he was a much better passer from the pocket....
     
  3. CowboysFaninHouston

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    agreed.....and plus he may not play much this year and end up suspended or in Jail.
     
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  4. CowboysFaninHouston

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    and they went 4-12.....
     
  5. CowboysFaninHouston

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    Herbert needs to do it another year to belong to the list....lets see what DC will do now that they have a full season tape and offseason to study it.
     
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  6. CowboysFaninHouston

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    Dalton is 3rd best...from the bottom that is LOL
     
  7. DFWJC

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    I consider the following combo to add up to a pretty good statistical indicator of QB play.
    1) TD-turnover
    2) standard QB rating

    Dak generally ranks in the 7-14 range when we combine those two categories, so this ranking isn't completely crazy.
     
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  8. Denim Chicken

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    True, but I was impressed with what he did last season with such terrible coaching.
     
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  9. TexasFrog

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    Doesn’t take away the season. I just posted all his stats and historical significance page before this. You don’t do that with trash stats...especially the rating and TD to Int ratio. Guy was a straight out stud
     
  10. TexasFrog

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    Right and it’s why people trying to downplay Watson last year are ridiculous
     
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  11. CowboysFaninHouston

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    but but but philly game in 2019....
     
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  12. CowboysFaninHouston

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    well, we have to see the scores at the end of 3rd quarter, end of game and score with about 7.5 (1/2 of 4th quarter)...that will tell you if its garbage yards or not.

    if you go 4-12, you are partially responsible for that record....
     
  13. DFWJC

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    Cannot begin to imagine what Watson's numbers would look like behind Dallas' line (when fairly healthy) our 3 WRs and Zeke.
    That applies to guys like Stafford too.
    It would be a freak show, stats-wise.
     
  14. CowboysFaninHouston

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    so when cowboys are within 3 points with 3 minutes to go, that's considered garbage time...ooookkkk then
     
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  15. erod

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    This doesn't take into consideration that, given the same offensive personnel, guys like Herbert, Burrow, Murray, Stafford, and others could blow past several of these top 15 guys.

    I think Herbert and Burrow will be special relatively soon.
     
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  16. Aerolithe_Lion

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    I think Stafford is the most penalized QB as far as franchise hijinks in nfl history. His team sucks every single year, but he’s been historically good and no one has really noticed



    What’s most impressive about Stafford is he got way better after Calvin Johnson retired. His interceptions went way down, his completion percentage went up by a considerable amount, and his yards per attempt even went up... which shouldn’t make any else. I think CJ was a crutch he learned to overcome.

    He hasn’t thrown more than 13 picks in 7 years, despite being in an offense that has never been able to run the football. He hasn’t thrown under 64% completion in 6 years despite never hitting that number with Calvin. His yards per attempt has jumped from the low 7’s to high 7’s and 8’s in recent years. He’s becoming really, really good.

    He’s top 10 all time in both Game Winning Drives and fourth quarter comebacks (seriously). It’s Manning, it’s Brady, it’s Brees, it’s Roethlisberger, it’s Marino, it’s Unitas, It’s Elway, and it’s Stafford.

    Detroit did to him what they did to Barry; and I think in LA he’s going to light up the league.

    The most impressive thing to do in the nfl to me is not to take a stacked roster and excel with it, it’s to take a terrible one and do something worth championing about.
     
  17. CowboysFaninHouston

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    stafford is the most over rated #1 pick of all time. he has horrible horrible record, including one of the worst against teams with a winning record. he has terrible playoff record. and yes, some years they had a bad team but most years they didn't. he does throw a very pretty spiral though.

    Watson's numbers will probably be similar to Dak's....not sure which one was worse, O'Brian or Garrett. and Watson did have some nicer weapons at his disposal.....like Brandin cooks and Fuller and Hopkins who is head and shoulders above cooper. he also had a decent OL, it wasn't the best. it wasn't the worst...zeke hasn't been that good lately. last year he was very pedestrian.
     
  18. ChronicCowboy

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    Stafford is a top 5 QB and will prove it this season.
     
  19. Aerolithe_Lion

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    This guy gets it
     
  20. Jake

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    PFF says something poster agrees with

    These guys are legit at ratings, haters!

    PFF contradicts how poster feels about player

    Who cares what PFF says about anyone?
     

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