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POSTED 8:21 a.m. EDT; UPDATED 8:48 a.m. EDT, September 25, 2006

ANOTHER BENGAL BUSTED
On the same day that the Cincinnati Bengals re-established their regular-season superiority over the Pittsburgh Steelers, linebacker Odell Thurman became the latest member of the team to be arrested.

Thurman, per various news reports, was arrested for DUI shortly after 3:00 a.m. on Monday when police spotted him driving left of center roughly a block away from a police checkpoint. Thurman was behind the wheel of teammate Reggie McNeal's SUV. There were other Bengals players in the vehicle, but their names have not been released.

Thurman's blood alcohol content was measured at 0.17 percent, more than twice the legal limit of 0.08 percent.

The second-year linebacker currently is serving a four-game suspension for violation of the league's substance abuse policy. He's now in the same potential predicament as Packers receiver Koren Robinson -- charged with an alcohol-related offense at a time when the player is already "in" Stage Three of the substance-abuse program. Depending on the specific requirements of Thurman's treatment plan, the 0.17 percent test result could be enough to trigger a one-year suspension.

The arrest couldn't have come at a more inopportune time for the Bengals, who went into Heinz Field on Sunday and humbled the Pittsburgh Steelers. The fact that a carload of players were out celebrating the victory by getting blotto (we can only presume that no one in the car was sober, since common-sense suggests that the sober one would have been driving) strongly suggests that coach Marvin Lewis still has a loooooong way to go before he gets some of his guys to understand the difference between acceptable and unacceptable off-field conduct.

And our guess (and it's only a guess) is that it's just a matter of time before word is released that the group of other Bengals in the SUV included Chris Henry and/or A.J. Nicholson and/or Frostee Rucker and/or Eric Steinbach.

Just last week, new NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell visited with the Bengals told them that they have a "responsibility as players that they continue to represent the league, the Bengals and their community in a positive fashion."

Why do we have a feeling that, regardless of the legal niceties, the Goodell signature appearing on the official NFL ball eventually will be branded on Thurman's buttocks?

WHERE WERE THE BUCS' DOCTORS?

One of the things that we can't figure out in the wake of the emergency splenectomy performed Sunday on Tampa quarterback Chris Simms is why in the hell the team's training staff and/or medical staff allowed Simms to continue to play while he likely was demonstrating what a reasonable medical professional might interpret as symptoms of having a busted spleen?

Indeed, we initially presumed that Simms' continued presence in the game despite the condition didn't necessarily connote "toughness" because we likewise presumed that the team's training and/or medical staff is sufficiently schooled and skilled as to the signs and the symptoms of a guy who might have suffered an injury that is by no means rare for someone who is suffering repeated blunt force trauma to the abdomen.

So what in the hell did the trainers or the doctors do when Simms was taken to the locker room in the second half? Did it just not occur to anyone that Simms might have popped a spleen? Or did someone decide not to make a big issue about it until after the game since, after all, the team was on the verge of pulling out of its cannon hole the first win of the season?

Either way, it's unacceptable -- and it should re-ignite the discourse as to whether the best medical care is available for players at all times, and as to whether "team" physicians are more beholden to the folks who sign their checks than to their actual patients.

It's definitely been a problem in the past, in other cities. Landing the local football team is a coup for any medical practice, and at times the decision isn't made based on quality of care but on how much money the medical practice will re-invest in stadium signage and suites.

Maybe, then, Simms really was in horrible pain and continued to fight through the fact that an organ was seeping blood into his abdominal cavity. We assumed that he wasn't in such a condition simply because we also assumed that the folks who were supposed to take care of him were doing so.

Whether or not they were is the question that needs to be asked of Bucs coach Jon Gruden, G.M. Bruce Allen, the doctors, and anyone else in a position of authority. We're not talking about getting a sound bite with a softball, either. We're hoping that "real" journalists from "real" media outlets with "real" access to the powers-that-be will take up this cause for Simms.

If the "real" media won't do it, then let's hope that Simms or his family will.
 

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I hate to say Chris Simms is one tough dude. But man oh man that must have hurt!
 

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DanTanna said:
I hate to say Chris Simms is one tough dude. But man oh man that must have hurt!

Agreed. He is one tough hombre for leading his team to a score with a ruptured spleen. Too bad his defense couldn't hold their end of the bargain.
 

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I am sure the players will listen to the commissioner and stop messing around.....;-)
 

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DanTanna said:
I hate to say Chris Simms is one tough dude. But man oh man that must have hurt!

No kidding, when I was 11 I bruised my speen attempting to jumping over a fence. After that happen, the slightest move while laying it bed evoked an immense pain. I only bruised mine, he ruptured his which can be life threating due to internal bleeding.
 

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PLAYING WITH A RUPTURED SPLEEN NOT NECESSARILY A MARK OF "TOUGHNESS"

As sock puppets like Sean Salisbury and various e-mailers are taking the position that no one should ever again question the "toughness" of Bucs quarterback Chris Simms given that he played football on Sunday with a ruptured spleen, we recommend doing a little research on the symptoms of a ruptured spleen before making such proclamations.

The primary discomfort that the patient will experience is left shoulder-tip pain, and perhaps some tenderness in the abdomen. If the leak of blood from the spleen into the body is gradual, there might be no symptoms at all, at first. There is a possibility of severe upper left abdomen pain.

Eventually, as more blood is lost, the patient will experience light-headedness, blurred vision, confusion, and loss of consciousness.

So did Simms have a serious medical condition? Yes. Was playing with that condition equivalent to Jack Youngblood on a broken leg? No.

(Editor's note: We're already hearing from folks who claim to have had ruptured spleens of their own, etc., and who insist that it's very painful. Maybe, for some, it is. Given that Simms was taken to the locker room at one point during the game, our guess is that the training and/or medical staff would have considered the possibility of a spleen rupture if he were complaining of serious abdominal discomfort. Surely, team physicians recognize that this kind of injury is a possibility -- and they wouldn't have let him play if there was any reason to believe that he had suffered such a serious injury.)

Our point here isn't that Simms isn't "tough" -- the guy has had the tar knocked out of him this season, and he's been berated publicly by his coach. Clearly, he's no pansy, and perhaps the first three weeks of the season have hardened him from the guy who, as we heard, was whimpering on contact from the Ravens' defenders. But the fact that Simms played with a ruptured spleen that was undetected by trained professionals suggests to us either that he wasn't complaining of severe upper left abdomen pain, or that the team doctors are quacks.
 

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POSTED 5:46 p.m. EDT, September 25, 2006

A NEW TOUCHDOWN DANCE FOR CHRIS HENRY
It occurred to us while Bengals receiver Chris Henry was celebrating each of his two touchdown receptions on Sunday against the Steelers that a little humility might be in order, given that he has been arrested four times in less than a year, with three arrests coming during the offseason.

Yeah, the guy can play. But his antics screamed out to us that he really hasn't learned anything from his experiences, which also included facing a false accusation of rape made by a woman who has since allegedly killed someone.

So it now appears that Henry will have a new touchdown celebration in the future. Something based on a guy puking outside of a car window while the driver of the vehicle is being busted for DUI. As it turns out, he was perfecting that specific move early Monday.

Yep, as we predicted on a somewhat-tongue-in-cheek basis earlier on Monday, Henry was in the car with linebacker Odell Thurman. And Henry was vomiting through the window of the vehicle as Thurman was getting busted.

Under the circumstances, it's obvious that Henry was drinking as well, especially since Thurman has said that he was driving with a 0.17 blood alcohol content because the other guys were in even worse shape. (Of course, Henry is now likely to claim that he'd merely ingested some bad spinach during his post-game meal, and that he so overcome by E. coli that he had to let the drunk guy drive the car.) And our guess is that one of the terms of Henry's most recent probation for gun possession in Florida and/or his probation for marijuana possession in Kentucky.

Amazingly, Henry was not charged with public intoxication or any crime during the incident.

Also in the vehicle was Bengals rookie receiver Reggie McNeal, another guy whom we've previously heard has some turdish tendencies, but who had yet to involve himself in any embarrassing situations.

"I think for Odell, it's disappointing, for me, it's disappointing for our program, for all of our fans," coach Marvin Lewis said. "He just obviously doesn't understand the privilege and right to play in the National Football League. This will probably be dealt with very severely . . . no question by the league."

Lewis apparently made no statement about Henry's involvement in the situation.
 

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Thanks for posting it!

PLAYING WITH A RUPTURED SPLEEN NOT NECESSARILY A MARK OF "TOUGHNESS"
Geeze..... Poor guy. In a hospital bed and some still questioning his toughness! What does he have to do?!?!?!?
 

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ZeroClub said:
Thanks for posting it!

Geeze..... Poor guy. In a hospital bed and some still questioning his toughness! What does he have to do?!?!?!?

Change his last name to "Manning"...then he will be the bestest, toughest, smartest, richest loser in town!
 

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Change his last name to "Manning"...then he will be the bestest, toughest, smartest, richest loser in town!

:laugh2:
 
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