PFT: Cooley Speaks Out On Rookie Pay

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Posted by Mike Florio on April 30, 2008, 10:40 a.m.

When ESPN’s Chris Mortensen recently said on the air that players are happy with the money paid to rookies, and that he has never heard a peep from anyone who wants to change the system, an agent contacted us to say that Mort is talking to the wrong people.

Mort apparently isn’t talking to Commanders tight end Chris Cooley.

Cooley goes on the record to state his case. And Cooley isn’t merely quoted in someone else’s article — he wrote the damn thing, for our old friend Jamie Mottram’s joint at Yahoo! Sports.

Writes Cooley: “[C]an anyone honestly explain how Vernon Davis adds more value to a football team than Jeremy Shockey or Antonio Gates[?] His contract certainly says that he does, because he is averaging more money than both of them every year. If Davis can continue becoming a better football player then it might be agreed that he was worth the money.”

And Cooley isn’t the only one. His teammate, Todd Yoder, was quoted in the item as well. “It’s crazy to guarantee money to people who have never played a down in the NFL,” Yoder told Cooley. “That’s the way the system has gotten. If someone has potential to become an elite player you’re gonna get more in the first contract than the average Joe Schmoe makes in his entire career.”

In contrast, not a single player to our knowledge has spoken out in favor of the current system. (And the only ones who likely will are the ten guys drafted at the top of the first round this year.)

Meanwhile, the powers-that-be in the union remain defiant, and oblivious. If it continues, Gene won’t have to worry about finding his successor. He’ll be out the door before the search process even begins.
 

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I'm glad players are speaking out but he probably shouldn't have mention players by name. :laugh2:
 
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I think there should be a rookie pay scale for each position in the draft and also the UDFA. The owners are paying these guys entirely to much money and they have not shown anything on the field. I think that would eliminate all the hold outs and contact issues for rookies............Also allow you to spend more money on retaining needed vets up from new contacts or ext.
 

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The Cooley Zone: NFL needs to change how rookies are paid
By Chris Cooley

Rookies in the NFL make too much money. As a player I should be excited for anyone making a big contract. Good for them, right? For the top 20 draft picks it sounds great to sign a larger contract than guys that have played in the league for 10 years -- larger contracts than players that have been in the Pro Bowl at the same position. What's more is they don't have to lace up a cleat in the NFL and they are already getting guaranteed bonuses of $15, $20, even $30 million. Right, Rosenhaus?

It's amazing that in such a lucrative business the owners are willing to pay so much for potential. The average guaranteed bonus of the first 32 picks of 2007 was $10.86 million. Of course, some of the players getting paid are going to become great football players. What becomes the biggest concern year in and year out is how many players really do become great, and how soon.

"It's crazy to guarantee money to people who have never played a down in the NFL," says Todd Yoder (pictured), my teammate and eight-year veteran. "That's the way the system has gotten. If someone has potential to become an elite player you're gonna get more in the first contract than the average Joe Schmoe makes in his entire career."

Potential is where this all begins. Can someone jump a 40-inch vertical, or how many times can they push a bench press? A 4.4 40 can elevate the draft status of someone maybe in the second or third round straight to the top 20 picks. But can it translate to millions of dollars worth on the football field?

The NFL Combine is comparable to a strip club with owners and coaches for customers. The better the man looks running around in his spandex the more dollar bills end up on his stage. The funny thing is the onlookers at the combine are probably more excited than the creepy old man in the corner at the strip bar. :laugh2:

I mean, can anyone honestly explain how Vernon Davis adds more value to a football team than Jeremy Shockey or Antonio Gates. His contract certainly says that he does, because he is averaging more money than both of them every year. If Davis can continue becoming a better football player then it might be agreed that he was worth the money.

In Jason Witten's second year he caught 87 balls for 980 yards. Davis caught 52 balls for 509 yards. Both are good statistics for a tight end, but Davis is currently making $500,000 more a year than Witten. Even better, Davis made close to $4 million more in his second year than Witten did. A player making that kind of money should be a Pro Bowl-type player.

I fell in the same boat as Witten with my rookie contract -- $600,000 signing bonus and the league minimum for three years. It took me those three years to establish myself as a solid football player in the NFL. Not until then did I receive a large contract -- six years, $30 million. So when someone can jump into the league and earn more than that without playing a single play, it’s hard to stomach.

The point here is that if a rookie in any other profession could step on to the scene and make more than someone with a proven track record, the business would turn upside down. Imagine a first year staff accountant making more money than a senior partner simply because his 10 key skills were top in his class. This is basically what's happening in the NFL. Players are making money simply based on the number they were taken. Something with this system needs to change.

Chris Cooley is a Pro Bowl tight end for the Commanders and blogs every Wednesday here on Shutdown Corner. Read more from Cooley on his personal blog, where he gets awesome all the time.
 

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Va_BoysFan4 Life;2065175 said:
I think there should be a rookie pay scale for each position in the draft and also the UDFA. The owners are paying these guys entirely to much money and they have not shown anything on the field. I think that would eliminate all the hold outs and contact issues for rookies............Also allow you to spend more money on retaining needed vets up from new contacts or ext.

I agree but that makes too much sense. :laugh2:
 

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As long as the market yields this demand, it is what it is. Do we have to govern everything? Wha it's not fair.

This is America not Russia...

Do away with the cap while you're at it..
 

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Was he complaining when he signed his own rookie contract?

It is funny to compare the money a rookie who has the potential to be elite makes to that of the average joe schmoe player. If the average player was anything more than average then he would get paid more.

The better comparison is the one he makes between Vernon Davis and Antonio Gates if it is indeed true. Gates did not have a large rookie contract because he was a bit of an unknown. I believe he is now under a new larger contract. Just like Jason Witten. If Vernon Davis' rookie contract is worth more than Antonio Gates' or Witten's current contract, that shows something is wrong with the system. Even if you think Davis will reach his full potential, should he be making more than the top tight ends in the game? Guys whose current contracts are based on top performances. I think most would say no. Potential does not deserve more than performance. Potential does deserve a lot. More than the average player, but not more than the best in the NFL.
 

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ELDudearino;2065180 said:
As long as the market yields this demand, it is what it is. Do we have to govern everything? Wha it's not fair.

This is America not Russia...

Do away with the cap while you're at it..

Jerry would say OK and :D
 

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I think the rookie contract are way out of line right now you have rookies who have not played a down earning pro bowl type money? Please, go earn it frist.
 

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joseephuss;2065184 said:
Was he complaining when he signed his own rookie contract?

It is funny to compare the money a rookie who has the potential to be elite makes to that of the average joe schmoe player. If the average player was anything more than average then he would get paid more.

The better comparison is the one he makes between Vernon Davis and Antonio Gates if it is indeed true. Gates did not have a large rookie contract because he was a bit of an unknown. I believe he is now under a new larger contract. Just like Jason Witten. If Vernon Davis' rookie contract is worth more than Antonio Gates' or Witten's current contract, that shows something is wrong with the system. Even if you think Davis will reach his full potential, should he be making more than the top tight ends in the game? Guys whose current contracts are based on top performances. I think most would say no. Potential does not deserve more than performance. Potential does deserve a lot. More than the average player, but not more than the best in the NFL.
That's an interesting thought. What do you think about for the Top 5 picks, they make the average, or some percentage of the top 5 at their position. Top 6-10, make the average, or some percentage of the top 10. From there, maybe returning to the slotting they normally do.

The top 10 players are usually expected to be franchise players, so you could possibly give them franchise money at their position.

Disclaimer: No, I'm no salary guru and this is just a thought.
 

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The owners are under no obligation to pay these rookies these guaranteed numbers. But their excitement and fears of a holdout or wasted draft pick gets the best of them. The NFL should adopt the rule MLB has, if you can't sign your draft pick by the pre-season you get that pick over the next year and the player goes back into the draft pool.

Some drafts and players are better than others. Their contract should not be solely be based on when they are drafted. Carson Palmer has proved to worthy, same with AD. Vets are foolish if they think all the money saved on rookies will go to them. They will be cut more often because the rookies will be making so much less. Once again it will benefit the stars, but the average guys and rookies will suffer. I say let the market decide, no minimums and no maximums.
 

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Don't forget that one of the things that makes pro football thrive is a huge pay day for the rookies. Kill that and you may kill 80% of the interest in these kids to work hard to make it one day in the pro's. They may elect to play baseball or basketball instead, God forbid soccer or tennis;)
 
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That is the one thing I like about the NBA Rookie contract is the set max on it. The NFL definitely have to look at this very closely. After that....if a first round pick deserve to be payed heavy and have proved himself, I have no problem with it. And in the same breath, if a 7th round of undrafted player ie, Colston of NO, shows that he should be play like a first rounder then he should be. I am a Va Tech fan, and I personally do not thing D. Hall is worth a dime of what he got when he came in nor is he worth what he is getting paid now.
 

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I always knew Cooley was hard up for money. Explains why he can't even afford regular practice shorts.

chris-cooley-short-shorts
 

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It's ridiculous the money some of these busts run off with.

They should play under incentive based contracts. That way if they see alot of playing time they would get paid accordingly. If they didn't get alot of playing time, their football life expectancy wouldn't go down much because they didn't take much contact.

Add in injury clauses that would gaurantee them a certain amount of money should they sustain career threatening injuries and there's no reason for them not to earn their 'big' contract.
 

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WoodysGirl;2065189 said:
That's an interesting thought. What do you think about for the Top 5 picks, they make the average, or some percentage of the top 5 at their position. Top 6-10, make the average, or some percentage of the top 10. From there, maybe returning to the slotting they normally do.

The top 10 players are usually expected to be franchise players, so you could possibly give them franchise money at their position.

Disclaimer: No, I'm no salary guru and this is just a thought.

I mentioned that the other day. That picks 1-5 could earn the average of the 6-10 top players at that position in the NFL. 6-10, the average of 11-15 and so on. You not only get paid based on your pick range but also the position you play.

It would be hard to work out with the different structures of all those deals but they could make a system that all the owners could agree on.
 

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joseephuss;2065184 said:
Was he complaining when he signed his own rookie contract?

What does it matter? Does he have to in order to get some sort of level of credibility? I don't think so. He didn't get one of the monster deals, he was a 3rd rounder. He probably got paid very close to what other 3rd rounders got paid.

I like that hes saying something. Someone needed to.
 

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bkight13;2065192 said:
The owners are under no obligation to pay these rookies these guaranteed numbers. But their excitement and fears of a holdout or wasted draft pick gets the best of them. The NFL should adopt the rule MLB has, if you can't sign your draft pick by the pre-season you get that pick over the next year and the player goes back into the draft pool.

Some drafts and players are better than others. Their contract should not be solely be based on when they are drafted. Carson Palmer has proved to worthy, same with AD. Vets are foolish if they think all the money saved on rookies will go to them. They will be cut more often because the rookies will be making so much less. Once again it will benefit the stars, but the average guys and rookies will suffer. I say let the market decide, no minimums and no maximums.

Never use the name "Carson Palmer" and the word "worhty" in the same sentence:laugh2:
 
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