News: PFT: Could a settlement happen in the Elliott case?

[Reality]

Could a settlement happen in the Elliott case?

That’s not to say Elliott would take the literal middle ground of a three-game suspension. But how about a one- or two-game suspension for pulling down the woman’s top at the St. Patrick’s Day parade? While the league didn’t discipline him for that, the incident was mentioned in the letter informing Elliott of his six-game suspension. Also, there’s no way anyone can dispute that it happened, since it’s on video.

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Right or wrong, the league concluded that Elliott committed domestic violence. Reducing the suspension without an admission from Elliott that he committed domestic violence would create a potential P.R. problem for the league, creating the impression that it was too soft on domestic abuse. If, in turn, the league admits that it botched the investigation and disciplinary process, that won’t be good for business, either.

So even if Elliott were willing to accept a suspension for something other than domestic abuse, the league may have no good way out of the corner into which it has painted itself. Which means that the league’s only choice may be to wait in that corner for a lifeline from an appeals court.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/09/09/could-a-settlement-happen-in-the-elliott-case/

 

[Reality]

But how about a one- or two-game suspension for pulling down the woman’s top at the St. Patrick’s Day parade? While the league didn’t discipline him for that, the incident was mentioned in the letter informing Elliott of his six-game suspension. Also, there’s no way anyone can dispute that it happened, since it’s on video.

That sounds familiar ..

 

[Jarv]

I personally want to see Goodell have to take the stand...I want him embarrassed,,,I want him and Friel fired.

 

[Teague31]

Nope. Burning the ****** thing to the ground Zeke. No justice no peace

 

[trueblue1687]

The league finds itself in a position of weakness relative to bargaining. Not sure I would encourage any consideration of this hypothetical at all if Elliott was my client. He knows the worst case is 6 games and just won a significant "first step" court battle. Maybe if it's a stern reprimand

 

[Don Corleone]

That sounds familiar ..

The problem is that it sets the stage for double jeopardy. It opens the floodgates for any prior offense to serve as the basis for a future suspension.

 

[JoeKing]

I personally want to see Goodell have to take the stand...I want him embarrassed,,,I want him and Friel fired.

OH YES!, now you're speaking my language.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Settlement resulting in a reduction of suspended games? No way.

The NFL should just admit it botched the case, make the suspension go away and go on with life.

The season has started and this issue go away immediately with all the talk being about stuff that actually happens ON THE FIELD.

 

[Reality]

The problem is that it sets the stage for double jeopardy. It opens the floodgates for any prior offense to serve as the basis for a future suspension.

There is no double jeopardy in "conduct detrimental to the league" rulings by the NFL. "Double Jeopardy" is a legal term used in criminal prosecutions.

 

[Reality]

Settlement resulting in a reduction of suspended games? No way.

The NFL should just admit it botched the case, make the suspension go away and go on with life.

The season has started and this issue go away immediately with all the talk being about stuff that actually happens ON THE FIELD.

If I were Elliott and the NFLPA, I would say, "We'll talk about it next off-season! We have games to play now"

Plus it helps keep the NFL's embarrassing court loss a topic of discussion all year

 

[trueblue1687]

There is no double jeopardy in "conduct detrimental to the league" rulings by the NFL. "Double Jeopardy" is a legal term used in criminal prosecutions.

I don't for a second think the league is above sleazy, underhanded moves (present matter as case in point), but coming back and adding punishment after a whif would likely bring the hatchet down on a few necks. Clear abuse of the spirit of the conduct policy. They led w their strongest play and may lose...time they to let it go for awhile if that happens.

Might give clarity to an old saying my Grandpa used to say about being greedy: pigs get fat, but hogs get slaughtered.

 

[JoeKing]

There is no double jeopardy in "conduct detrimental to the league" rulings by the NFL. "Double Jeopardy" is a legal term used in criminal prosecutions.

When the issue is being adjudicated in Federal court, the U.S. Supreme Court has established that the right against double jeopardy is not limited to capital crimes or Corporal Punishment, but that it extends to all felonies, misdemeanors, and juvenile-delinquency adjudications, regardless of the applicable punishments.

 

[Reality]

When the issue is being adjudicated in Federal court, the U.S. Supreme Court has established that the right against double jeopardy is not limited to capital crimes or Corporal Punishment, but that it extends to all felonies, misdemeanors, and juvenile-delinquency adjudications, regardless of the applicable punishments.

Right .. and if this were a criminal case, that would be true. However, this is not a criminal case and these are also two separate events separated around a year apart.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Maybe I consider 1 or 2 games under the conditions that the league publicly states I am innocent of domestic violence.

Any suspension under DV and he is labeled a woman beater for life.

 

[CCBoy]

The NFL has a major confrontation from the Player's Union in the future. They better be smart, and not drive things to another lockout, which they ultimately will be forced to give up both power and money. They better be saving face, now!

 

[Ken]

i would accept a 50k fine for pulling the top down since it was on video.

Nothing more than that....but even that...how fo they know that this wasnt their relationship?

 

[Oh_Canada]

Maybe I consider 1 or 2 games under the conditions that the league publicly states I am innocent of domestic violence.

Any suspension under DV and he is labeled a woman beater for life.

Exactly. Those would be my conditions as well and it should be timed either last game of 2017 (if meaningless) or beginning of 2018 season.

....oh and Friel is fired.

 

[Nightman]

The SS Settlement ship sailed when Henderson rubber stamped the 6 games

That was their only chance to correct their mistake and instead they doubled down

NO Settlement....... NO Games missed at all............ "Now uze can't leave"

 

[JoeKing]

Right .. and if this were a criminal case, that would be true. However, this is not a criminal case and these are also two separate events separated around a year apart.

The Injunction was a civil action but now that the actual domestic violence case is going before the court and is considered a crime against the community and the (State), it is therefore considered a criminal matter.

 

[Nightman]

The Injunction was a civil action but now that the actual domestic violence case is going before the court and is considered a crime against the community and the (State), it is therefore considered a criminal matter.

I don't think so