PFT: Cowboys’ coaches reportedly furious Rolando McClain skipped OTAs

[Alexander]

I've seen it discussed, but haven't seen any source. Wasn't Ray Rice cut after he was suspended? Greg Hardy too?

Hardy served his suspension then was let go. Rice was almost a simultaneous move, but it looks like the Ravens cut him, then the NFL said he was suspended indefinitely.

 

[theebs]

That PFT report is based on a Mac Engel piece (first mistake), which they say appeared in the DMN (second mistake), and then they pick a single word from a throwaway sentence from the 800-word article to make a headline out of it (third mistake).

Here's what Engel wrote: "This guy found a reason to miss OTAs, which infuriated the coaches." With Engel, you never know whether he's just making stuff up, and there is no source that shows coaches were indeed "infuriated," or if they were, whether it was for McClain's suspension or for his sitting out OTAs.

Never mind all that, said PFT, and blasted this headline across their page: "Cowboys coaches reportedly furious Rolando McClain skipped OTAs."

originally mac engle wrote that he missed mini camp and that is why he was so mad or whatever. then he was corrected and the article was also to show he missed ota.

i don't get why mcclain was brought back and i don't get why they can't get through to jerry about this kind of thing. He really must not be that bright.

however every team has guys smoking weed or getting in trouble for guns or assault or whatever. This is just engle doing what he always does, whine. I hear him on the radio here all the time and he loves to praise the steelers and patriots but they have all kinds of morons on their teams also.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Hardy served his suspension then was let go. Rice was almost a simultaneous move, but it looks like the Ravens cut him, then the NFL said he was suspended indefinitely.

And I think the part of the CBA people are referencing is that the leauge and the team cannot discipline a player for the same infraction. Seems like that language would provide all kinds of leeway.

 

[CATCH17]

Garrett has been undermined because the further removed he gets the better we have gotten.



McClain needs to go but I doubt seriously that Jason would cut him.

 

[cowboyblue22]

yes the steelers and pats have players that do some of the same things but those teams do one thing the cowboys do not and that Is win consistently and make the playoffs consistently if you don't win these things really are hard for a team to overcome.

 

[VACowboy]

Can you cut a suspended player?

I know you can't cut a player because he was suspended.

 

[theebs]

Garrett has been undermined because the further removed he gets the better we have gotten.



McClain needs to go but I doubt seriously that Jason would cut him.

I wonder if he would also, I think everyone getting on jerry for this probably should also remember that Garrett worships Nick Saban and if Bryan broaddus is right he gave garrett a glowing recommendation and said mcclain would be fine in Dallas.

So I imagine garrett got burned here by mcclain as much as jerry. Mike Fisher keeps writing stories about the coaches not wanting him which sounds right but if the head coach and the owner wanted him what can they do.

This is assuming garrett wanted him back again this year. I imagine he had to be fed up after last year.

Either way I can't see him playing here ever again but unfortunately now the opening of training camp press conference will be engle, hansen, clarence hill whining about this one thing. Then nationally losers like mike florio will repeat their nonsense and the season we have all been waiting so much for will start with nothing but nonsense.

I really hope they have made the decision to cut him and when asked about him at the PC in a few weeks they just say they are not talking about him....gregory also. Hopefully we can just enjoy the football and not have the first three weeks of camp be about Jerry and the handful of guys that have gotten in trouble. Kind of how they do it in other cities.

 

[theebs]

yes the steelers and pats have players that do some of the same things but those teams do one thing the cowboys do not and that Is win consistently and make the playoffs consistently if you don't win these things really are hard for a team to overcome.

The steelers really don't anymore though. They should have lost that playoff game again last year. Since bruce arians left they are just a second place team in their division that doesn't win playoff games.

New England wins, but they still have had some horrible guys on their team and they picked them in the draft knowing so and got burned.

The giants also have guys who get in trouble as do the packers etc. etc.

 

[Sydla]

When you take off the blue and silver glasses and lay them on the table, you see what is plainly obvious with regards to this organization.

Dysfunction. Pure, utter, dysfunction.

 

[Dwight]

I'm not a Jason Garrett fan but it's unfair to him that Jerry is allowing this type of behavior to happen again and again.

Ro's actions are a slap in the face to the coaches, players and the fans. This is one of the reasons why Dallas has not been a successful team (on a consistent basis) in a while.

I have come to the conclusion that Jerry is not only a terrible GM but now he is a putrid Owner.

 

[jnday]

This probably sounded like a smart thing to say in your head. But posts rarely are entirely factual, and when they are, they are generally boring.

In any event, enough with the implicit criticism of the forum. It's not cute, and it's derailing the thread.

I disagree about the factual content in these posts. A lot of the times the facts may be limited or not explain the entire situation, but they are facts just the same. So many of the posts that center around stats are factual, but they don't tell the whole story, more facts are needed. If your remember, I pointed out several times that Phil Costa was not starter quality material. That was a fact, but you didn't accept it as one. Lol

 

[dogunwo]

Garrett is almost to the point where he can't cut McClain. The longer this goes on, it's not going to look like it was his decision. Hard for players, or fans for that matter, to respect that.....

Coaches don't cut players anyway. GMs do with coach input. And seeing as who the GM is on this team......

 

[jnday]

The steelers really don't anymore though. They should have lost that playoff game again last year. Since bruce arians left they are just a second place team in their division that doesn't win playoff games.

New England wins, but they still have had some horrible guys on their team and they picked them in the draft knowing so and got burned.

The giants also have guys who get in trouble as do the packers etc. etc.

The Pats get a free ride here. If their draft blunders really come back to hurt them, they would deserve to take some criticism , but they are contenders every year and it is hard for me to argue with that kind of success.

 

[Idgit]

I disagree about the factual content in these posts. A lot of the times the facts may be limited or not explain the entire situation, but they are facts just the same. So many of the posts that center around stats are factual, but they don't tell the whole story, more facts are needed. If your remember, I pointed out several times that Phil Costa was not starter quality material. That was a fact, but you didn't accept it as one. Lol

That was an opinion, actually. Then he became our starter, signed an extension, and left in FA to compete for a starting job with an AFC playoff contender, if I remember correctly. And I stand by my contention that if you find Costa-grade players in FA, fans ought to appreciate that and not complain about it. Even while looking for an upgrade. Hayden's another more recent player who fits in this category. That dude wasn't a quality starter, but he cost nothing, came in and worked hard and played hurt. I don't bag on those guys. Not when there are guys like McClain to hate on who are unwilling to put in effort despite all the talent in the world.

In any event, that post wasn't about 'facts' really anyway. It was a response to visionary's passive shot at the rules around here.

 

[dogunwo]

This is how you confirm that the team has a country club atmosphere with no accountability.

I keep hearing this "country club atmosphere" thing, but players always come out and say the opposite. One player's issues undermine what all the other players say?

 

[CyberB0b]

The steelers really don't anymore though. They should have lost that playoff game again last year. Since bruce arians left they are just a second place team in their division that doesn't win playoff games.

New England wins, but they still have had some horrible guys on their team and they picked them in the draft knowing so and got burned.

The giants also have guys who get in trouble as do the packers etc. etc.

What's the one thing all of those teams have in common over the last 20 years? Multiple Super Bowl wins.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I am no fan of Jerry Jones as the GM. But I am also not a fan of Jason Garrett as the coach. Jones at least has some skins on the wall. Garrett does not. Do I think McClain should be cut....yes! But Garrett has not EARNED the right to make every decision when it comes to this roster. Especially when he showed his owner/gm last year that he cannot win a game without Romo.

 

[Idgit]

I keep hearing this "country club atmosphere" thing, but players always come out and say the opposite. One player's issues undermine what all the other players say?

I get tired of replying to that same criticism, but you're right that it's pretty much been exploded by every FA that walks through the building. Thornton, most recently. The answer to that is either 'silence,' 'but what do you expect them to say' or a pivot to an argument that the overwork is why our players seem to get hurt so much. All of which are very unsatisfying.

 

[xvendettax914]

I get tired of replying to that same criticism, but you're right that it's pretty much been exploded by every FA that walks through the building. Thornton, most recently. The answer to that is either 'silence,' 'but what do you expect them to say' or a pivot to an argument that the overwork is why our players seem to get hurt so much. All of which are very unsatisfying.

Gets tiresome being called a "homer" or "apologist" for stating a truth plenty of players have come forward about. I don't even engage in discussions debating or regarding it

 

[Idgit]

Gets tiresome being called a "homer" or "apologist" for stating a truth plenty of players have come forward about. I don't even engage in discussions debating or regarding it

Unhappy fans are going to *****, but, yeah, it gets tiresome hoping for a bit of discretion in the complaints.

There's not exactly a shortage of legitimate targets.