News: PFT: DeMarco Murray: It’s hard to run against nine in the box

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Noting that the Cardinals continually stacked the line of scrimmage to stop Murray and dareBrandon Weeden to pass on them, Murray said the Cowboys actually did pretty well running the ball, considering the Cardinals’ defensive alignment.

“We did good against nine guys in the box,” Murray said, via the Star-Telegram. “It was a hard day.”

Murray is right: When you’re going up against a defensive front like this, it’s hard to run. But given the absence of Romo, it’s surprising that the Cowboys have handed Murray the ball just 19 times in each of the last two games.


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Murray would have easily gotten 100 yards. I fault the coaches for putting the game in the hands of Weeden more during the times when we needed those extra few yardages.

I think Dallas need more misdirection run plays. Like the fullback fake up the middle and a pitch to Murray going wide. Heck, I would have loved to see a flea flicker during those instances when they put 9 in the box.
 

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Records aside, .. running Murray was probably our best chance at moving the ball with the way Weeden played yesterday. LOL

It was. Especially during crucial moments when we needed the extra yards. There was one play of 3rd and short and we took Murray out of the lineup. Why in hell would you want to do that? I know they're trying to make sure Murray doesn't get hurt but he surely was our best chance and was actually making progress running the ball in the 2nd half.
 

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9 in the box, still almost got 100 yards rushing.

If Weeden could complete a forward pass, we would've won handily. Someone sprinkle fairy dust on Tony's vertebrae, please.
 

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Just disappointed they failed to pick it up. Had Dallas ran wide and were stopped the question would be why not go directly at them since it was a yard? If he pay action and throw and fail to excute again the question is why did you not run it and the Murray had 4.1 per carry crowd would question the call. At some point if falls to the players to make the play and 4th in 1 it was the cardinal player who made the play.

I would take my chances with the play action at that time or a fake handoff to the fullback and pitch it to Murray to run wide. We had options on that play. Yet we ran the most obvious and everyone knew that it was a run up the middle. Smart coach would have called timeout and regrouped with a different play. But for some reason our coaching failed us in this situation.
 

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Murray would have easily gotten 100 yards. I fault the coaches for putting the game in the hands of Weeden more during the times when we needed those extra few yardages.

I think Dallas need more misdirection run plays. Like the fullback fake up the middle and a pitch to Murray going wide. Heck, I would have loved to see a flea flicker during those instances when they put 9 in the box.

We could not just face 2nd and 8 and 3rd and long. Dallas did not give up on the run until we were 2 scores down at 21-10 and your not coming back by running it. avg per carry was not telling the story, Murray hit some good run but much of the day saw Dallas in long situations
 

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I agree with Murray and I'll add that if the game had stayed competitive till the end he would have broke 100 again

Thank the bad play calling ,going for it on 4th 1. We should have taken our 3 points. That one decision change the whole dynamic of this game and cause a couple of injuries. Im sorry but there is no way in heck we was going to get 1 yeard aganist that D straight up.
 

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I would take my chances with the play action at that time or a fake handoff to the fullback and pitch it to Murray to run wide. We had options on that play. Yet we ran the most obvious and everyone knew that it was a run up the middle. Smart coach would have called timeout and regrouped with a different play. But for some reason our coaching failed us in this situation.

and that is fine but if you fail then you get question is all I'm saying. Blaming Garrett or Linehan is not right, no matter what is called if it does not work people will start up with all the why didn't you do this or run that. That is the fact of the matter. hell Dallas was playing SF got the ball 2 yards from the goal line and threw a pass and got picked and what was the response? Why didn't you run it. Fans get to question any and all calls that are made but there is a point where players have to execute the play.
 

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We could not just face 2nd and 8 and 3rd and long. Dallas did not give up on the run until we were 2 scores down at 21-10 and your not coming back by running it. avg per carry was not telling the story, Murray hit some good run but much of the day saw Dallas in long situations

No we gave up on Murray when the score was still close. There was even some instances we put Randle in for Murray. There was a 3rd down play we took Murray out and went with a spread formation. Weeden ran the ball up the middle and failed. There was just too many instances we could have run the ball with Murray which would still be more effective than passing it with Weeden. This all happened when the score was 14-10.
 

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No we gave up on Murray when the score was still close. There was even some instances we put Randle in for Murray. There was a 3rd down play we took Murray out and went with a spread formation. Weeden ran the ball up the middle and failed. There was just too many instances we could have run the ball with Murray which would still be more effective than passing it with Weeden. This all happened when the score was 14-10.

getting late in the game as it was you were not going to catch up by running. We did not give up on Murray, damn you guys holler because he was getting 25 to 30 times a game and now we gave up on him? lol Randle and Dunbar are also part of the RB group only time Dallas gave up on running was once the game was at 21-10
 

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9 in the box, still almost got 100 yards rushing.

If Weeden could complete a forward pass, we would've won handily. Someone sprinkle fairy dust on Tony's vertebrae, please.

You wanna update your Ware watch? Cowboys haven't had 6 sacks in quite some time now.
 

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and that is fine but if you fail then you get question is all I'm saying. Blaming Garrett or Linehan is not right, no matter what is called if it does not work people will start up with all the why didn't you do this or run that. That is the fact of the matter. hell Dallas was playing SF got the ball 2 yards from the goal line and threw a pass and got picked and what was the response? Why didn't you run it. Fans get to question any and all calls that are made but there is a point where players have to execute the play.

I actually place the blame more on Weeden. He was awful. So he gets blamed 95% and should be let go right away.

The other 5% goes to coaches which is either Linehan or Garrett. If running the ball is your best bet to winning you stick with it. I would have tried faking the ball to the fullback and pitch it to Murray going wide more often. Where was the delay draw or even more motion plays? The coaches have ways of winning this and it didn't have to put it in the hands of Weedan to do it.

I don't know what it is but our playcalling as gone bad the last two games. It seems that these two games Garrett has been calling some of the plays. But right now both Garrett and Linehan need to get their act together and start working on a viable plan to beat blitzes. They should watch other teams run their plays and emulate those. Pick plays in bunch formation is being used by Denver and on us by the Cardinals. Why can't we implement those same plays?
 

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I actually place the blame more on Weeden. He was awful. So he gets blamed 95% and should be let go right away.

The other 5% goes to coaches which is either Linehan or Garrett. If running the ball is your best bet to winning you stick with it. I would have tried faking the ball to the fullback and pitch it to Murray going wide more often. Where was the delay draw or even more motion plays? The coaches have ways of winning this and it didn't have to put it in the hands of Weedan to do it.

I don't know what it is but our playcalling as gone bad the last two games. It seems that these two games Garrett has been calling some of the plays. But right now both Garrett and Linehan need to get their act together and start working on a viable plan to beat blitzes. They should watch other teams run their plays and emulate those. Pick plays in bunch formation is being used by Denver and on us by the Cardinals. Why can't we implement those same plays?

Dallas was not running great, Murray had a few decent runs much of it was leaving us in 2nd and long and 3rd and long even the Cards were very happy with how they were playing the run. Clearly not doing the QB any favors by keeping in him long down and distance.
 

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getting late in the game as it was you were not going to catch up by running. We did not give up on Murray, damn you guys holler because he was getting 25 to 30 times a game and now we gave up on him? lol Randle and Dunbar are also part of the RB group only time Dallas gave up on running was once the game was at 21-10

When you take out Murray on a very crucial 3rd and short situation and go with a spread formation IS GIVING UP on Murray. As you well know we failed to convert because the defense knew that Weeden wasn't going to pass and was going to run it up the middle himself. Who would you rather run the ball with? Murray or Weeden?

I would take my chances with Murray in the game. It causes the defense to make adjustments towards him even in the passing game. Thus I stated - we gave up on Murray.
 

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Dallas was not running great, Murray had a few decent runs much of it was leaving us in 2nd and long and 3rd and long even the Cards were very happy with how they were playing the run. Clearly not doing the QB any favors by keeping in him long down and distance.

Murray would have gained 100 yards if we kept handing it to him. He was obvious that we were wearing them down with the run late in the 2nd half and it was working. Murray was warming up and we were starting to make progress with the run. You don't abandon the run when their is momentum there. Watch the game again. Murray had some big runs when we needed it. It wasn't during garbage time.
 

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When you take out Murray on a very crucial 3rd and short situation and go with a spread formation IS GIVING UP on Murray. As you well know we failed to convert because the defense knew that Weeden wasn't going to pass and was going to run it up the middle himself. Who would you rather run the ball with? Murray or Weeden?

I would take my chances with Murray in the game. It causes the defense to make adjustments towards him even in the passing game. Thus I stated - we gave up on Murray.

I don't see that Dallas gave up on Murray, we have ran 3rd down plays even critical ones with Murray on the sidelines
 

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Murray would have gained 100 yards if we kept handing it to him. He was obvious that we were wearing them down with the run late in the 2nd half and it was working. Murray was warming up and we were starting to make progress with the run. You don't abandon the run when their is momentum there. Watch the game again. Murray had some big runs when we needed it. It wasn't during garbage time.

I don't care about 100 yards fact is the Cards had played the run very well and outside of a couple of decent runs they kept us in long situation because they were doing a good job of stopping the run. I watched the game maybe you should watch it, when you are down 21-10 mid way into the 4th that is not going to cut it by trying to run it unless you just plan on running the clock out on yourself. 10 or 12 play drives eating up clock was not going to get us the win.
 

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I don't care about 100 yards fact is the Cards had played the run very well and outside of a couple of decent runs they kept us in long situation because they were doing a good job of stopping the run. I watched the game maybe you should watch it, when you are down 21-10 mid way into the 4th that is not going to cut it by trying to run it unless you just plan on running the clock out on yourself. 10 or 12 play drives eating up clock was not going to get us the win.

Who said I cared about 100 yards? I cared about winning. Im not talking about 21-10 either which baffles me why you keep mentioning that. It was already 14-10 and we took out Murray on certain short yard situations. That 3rd in short was prime example. Also, we put in Randle to run and he failed to gain some yardage. Murray was starting to warm up when he was running and we were actually gashing them in the 2nd half.

We weren't going to win it anyways with Weeden passing the ball. You might as well go with the run. Like I mentioned before coaching can put your team in a position to win. Our coaching failed miserably in doing that.
 

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I don't see that Dallas gave up on Murray, we have ran 3rd down plays even critical ones with Murray on the sidelines

3rd down and SHORT. When you take Murray out of the lineup the other team knows its not a running play. Do you understand?
 
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