News: PFT: DeMarco Murray: It’s hard to run against nine in the box

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Who said I cared about 100 yards? I cared about winning. Im not talking about 21-10 either which baffles me why you keep mentioning that. It was already 14-10 and we took out Murray on certain short yard situations. That 3rd in short was prime example. Also, we put in Randle to run and he failed to gain some yardage. Murray was starting to warm up when he was running and we were actually gashing them in the 2nd half.

We weren't going to win it anyways with Weeden passing the ball. You might as well go with the run. Like I mentioned before coaching can put your team in a position to win. Our coaching failed miserably in doing that.

Dallas ran the ball into the 4th qrt. You are using 1 play to claim they gave up on Murray? Dallas did not give up on Murray nor did they stop running the ball until the 6 min mark when we were down 21-10.
 

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3rd down and SHORT. When you take Murray out of the lineup the other team knows its not a running play. Do you understand?

Understand it very well do you understand they were stopping the run, Dallas used a spread formation and when blitz came Weeden stepped up to try to get the 1st I don't believe it was a QB draw, just a Weeden seeing space and trying to pick up the 1st.
 

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Dallas ran the ball into the 4th qrt. You are using 1 play to claim they gave up on Murray? Dallas did not give up on Murray nor did they stop running the ball until the 6 min mark when we were down 21-10.

Yes. I would have let him run the ball during that 3rd and short and keep on running it. Passing was ineffective already you might as well go with your runningback. Murray was also breaking tackles and making positive yardage. Why in the hell do you put Randle in their during that time?
 

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Understand it very well do you understand they were stopping the run, Dallas used a spread formation and when blitz came Weeden stepped up to try to get the 1st I don't believe it was a QB draw, just a Weeden seeing space and trying to pick up the 1st.

The defense wasn't scared of Weeden passing the ball. They were not afraid of that one bit. The defense wasn't fooled when Weeden ran the ball up the middle. They knew it was coming and so did I.

Like I said, I would have given the ball off to Murray. We weren't fooling anyone and the only player that can beat them was Murray. Taking him out was stupid during a crucial play.
 

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The defense wasn't scared of Weeden passing the ball. They were not afraid of that one bit. The defense wasn't fooled when Weeden ran the ball up the middle. They knew it was coming and so did I.

Like I said, I would have given the ball off to Murray. We weren't fooling anyone and the only player that can beat them was Murray. Taking him out was stupid during a crucial play.

Fine I don't see that as giving up on Murray.
 

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Thank the bad play calling ,going for it on 4th 1. We should have taken our 3 points. That one decision change the whole dynamic of this game and cause a couple of injuries. Im sorry but there is no way in heck we was going to get 1 yeard aganist that D straight up.

I was ok with the call to go for it. I thought the play call to stack everyone up the gut played right into the strength of AZ's defense though..
 

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The defense wasn't scared of Weeden passing the ball. They were not afraid of that one bit. The defense wasn't fooled when Weeden ran the ball up the middle. They knew it was coming and so did I.

Like I said, I would have given the ball off to Murray. We weren't fooling anyone and the only player that can beat them was Murray. Taking him out was stupid during a crucial play.

By the way the series were Weeden ran the ball it left Dallas with a 4-1 from cards 44 and we punted. Next series we run Murray on 1st down for 2, 2nd down and 8 Weeden incomplete to Dez, 3rd and 8 he hits Witten for 7 yard leaving 4th and 1 and we ran Murray and failed.
 

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Even with Romo back expect teams to crowd the line of scrimmage until we prove that we can beat them for it.

thats what I am thinking. The arizona game was just continuation of skins game. Crowd the line and intimidate the signal caller. You will see the same against good DL of Jacksonville.
 

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Noting that the Cardinals continually stacked the line of scrimmage to stop Murray and dareBrandon Weeden to pass on them, Murray said the Cowboys actually did pretty well running the ball, considering the Cardinals’ defensive alignment.

“We did good against nine guys in the box,” Murray said, via the Star-Telegram. “It was a hard day.”

Murray is right: When you’re going up against a defensive front like this, it’s hard to run. But given the absence of Romo, it’s surprising that the Cowboys have handed Murray the ball just 19 times in each of the last two games.


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Think Cardinals D knew a run up the middle was coming?


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I dare teams to do that when our franchise quarterback is back. Tony Romo will light your *** up if you play to stop the run. It doesn't hurt that we have an arsenal of weapons, either.
 

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thats what I am thinking. The arizona game was just continuation of skins game. Crowd the line and intimidate the signal caller. You will see the same against good DL of Jacksonville.

Cowboys gave up only 2 sacks, not bad vs a team who blitzes that often. I thought the OL did a decent job of picking up many of the blitzes but Weeden was unable to capitalize on it. I really would have liked to have seen Dallas take some deep shots down field if anything to make CB play off a bit more. Dallas stayed with a lot of short throws and Cards CB never backed off
 

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Understand it very well do you understand they were stopping the run, Dallas used a spread formation and when blitz came Weeden stepped up to try to get the 1st I don't believe it was a QB draw, just a Weeden seeing space and trying to pick up the 1st.
True Dooms and simply put Arizona knew going into that game with Weeden the starter was much easier for them to stack the box because they didn't respect Weeden as a passer and dared him to beat them and it cost us the game if Tony is in that game and healthy no way Arizona stacks that box because of his passing ability to make them pay if they did.
 

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True Dooms and simply put Arizona knew going into that game with Weeden the starter was much easier for them to stack the box because they didn't respect Weeden as a passer and dared him to beat them and it cost us the game if Tony is in that game and healthy no way Arizona stacks that box because of his passing ability to make them pay if they did.

I agree. Where I fault coaches is I felt Dallas should have looked at the deep routs at least enough to get the CB to move back but as long as Dallas was throwing short passes the Cards felt no need to respect the deep ball.
 

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I agree. Where I fault coaches is I felt Dallas should have looked at the deep routs at least enough to get the CB to move back but as long as Dallas was throwing short passes the Cards felt no need to respect the deep ball.
No doubt the coaches should've added more deep shots into the game plan and after watching the replay of that game Beasley was wide open all game long it seems Weeden just simply ignored him and there was one play where Weeden tried to scramble for a first down and Escobar was wide open down field he was just staring down Dez, Terrance, and Jason all game long it seems he's just a bad QB and the coaches didn't help his cause either by being to conservative with him and that played right into Arizona's hands.
 

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No doubt the coaches should've added more deep shots into the game plan and after watching the replay of that game Beasley was wide open all game long it seems Weeden just simply ignored him and there was one play where Weeden tried to scramble for a first down and Escobar was wide open down field he was just staring down Dez, Terrance, and Jason all game long it seems he's just a bad QB and the coaches didn't help his cause either by being to conservative with him and that played right into Arizona's hands.

It is a risky defense when you start brining safeties up with no help at all deep, I just felt they needed to take some shots to make the CB think before playing that aggressive on the short routs.
 

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Noting that the Cardinals continually stacked the line of scrimmage to stop Murray and dareBrandon Weeden to pass on them, Murray said the Cowboys actually did pretty well running the ball, considering the Cardinals’ defensive alignment.

“We did good against nine guys in the box,” Murray said, via the Star-Telegram. “It was a hard day.”

Murray is right: When you’re going up against a defensive front like this, it’s hard to run. But given the absence of Romo, it’s surprising that the Cowboys have handed Murray the ball just 19 times in each of the last two games.


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Michael David Smith‏@MichaelDavSmith
Think Cardinals D knew a run up the middle was coming?


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If we went play action right there, it could have been an easy 7 with Arizona's entire team in the box.

Never mind......................forgot we had Weedsuck at QB...................I seriously doubt he could even hit a receiver running wide open down the middle of the field.
 

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A fake dive to Murray, and a quick pitch to Randle or Dunbar would have probably gotten to the outside for 2 yards.

You'd be asking Brandon-freakin-Weeden to do two things. Simultaneously.

Good luck with that.
 

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Noting that the Cardinals continually stacked the line of scrimmage to stop Murray and dareBrandon Weeden to pass on them, Murray said the Cowboys actually did pretty well running the ball, considering the Cardinals’ defensive alignment.

“We did good against nine guys in the box,” Murray said, via the Star-Telegram. “It was a hard day.”

Murray is right: When you’re going up against a defensive front like this, it’s hard to run. But given the absence of Romo, it’s surprising that the Cowboys have handed Murray the ball just 19 times in each of the last two games.


Read more: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...rray-its-hard-to-run-against-nine-in-the-box/

Michael David Smith‏@MichaelDavSmith
Think Cardinals D knew a run up the middle was coming?


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My 2 least favorite play-calls of the season and maybe for several seasons were in this game. The 4th down play in the pic was my least favorite and the 3rd and short with no RB and Weeden as the QB was my 2nd least favorite.
 

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It is a risky defense when you start brining safeties up with no help at all deep, I just felt they needed to take some shots to make the CB think before playing that aggressive on the short routs.
Exactly it is a very risky defense to be caught in but the Cards knew that the coaches would play close to the vest on offense regarding Weeden to make safer throws in which came back to bite them. Rest assured if Weeden is the starter in London against the Jags you can bet that Gus Bradley a Seahawk disciple of defense will play that same style of defense against them and will definitely dial up some blitz pressure and will bring their nine man boxes to stop Murray as well as we both know Weeden is an average passer of the football and no defense no matter how bad they are and the Jags run defense is horrible won't respect the passing game no matter how many weapons the Cowboys have on offense.
 
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