News: PFT: Federal judge reinstates Ezekiel Elliott suspension

Melonfeud

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Serve the six and get it over with.
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I still don't get how do you suspend a guy for 6 games when the allegations against him are so unproven? Maybe he did it and maybe he didn't do it. From reading the documents, it's clear to me that Zeke and his gf didn't have a standard relationship, but the accusations of DV have enough holes in them that I don't think you can suspend a guy 6 games. It's not like there was a video showing him knock his gf out after coming out of an elevator. That is indisputable and clear evidence.

This whole thing makes very, very little sense. And for being someone who was supposed to "clean up the NFL", Goodell sure is pretty selective about who he "cleans up". Ray Rice? Josh Brown? not even in the same ballpark as Ezekiel Elliott. Messed up is all I can say.

I whole heartily agree,,, I truly believe had #21 not been drafted by Dallas but went to ANY OTHER TEAM this investigation wouldn't have taken 13 months to conduct AND they wouldn't have found grounds for suspension, cuz' there aren't any legally proven o_O
 

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This action yesterday was solely about the temporary injunction. However with the judge ruling against Zeke, she believes the NFL will win the case. In addition to the case the appeal, couldn't the NFL also ask her to recuse herself from presiding over future actions on the case and get a different judge who may be more favorable?
 

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If you don't think Zeke has to make better off the field decisions, then I can't help you. He himself has said it.
Never asked for your help. Since the nfl specifically suspended him for dv and followed the 6 game mandate...and you think that is correct, then obviously you think he is guilty of dv and had a fair hearing. I can't help you.
 

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Human nature breeds corruption and exploitation. You are absolutely right that corruption and backroom deals are common in this country, but visit any country that was under the Soviet Union and you will see much, much worse behavior.

Absolutely. If only people weren't involved! I just cringe when people assume because we're a "free" country with a "free" economic system that these sorts of corruptions/exploitations don't exist. It isn't either/or.
 

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Absolutely. If only people weren't involved! I just cringe when people assume because we're a "free" country with a "free" economic system that these sorts of corruptions/exploitations don't exist. It isn't either/or.

Churchill said "Capitalism is the uneven distribution of wealth. Socialism is the even distribution of poverty. And Communism is Socialism with a gun at your back".
 

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Honestly Trouty,

I doubt SCOTUS would even take the case. There is too much historical background on how the NFL and the Union work. Besides, nobody wants that. The Owners do not want to go to SCOTUS, the NFLPA, if they are smart, would not want to see this happen and SCOTUS doesn't want it.

I think that eventually, this will die a slow death and that will be that. The best we can hope for, IMO, is that Zeke learns from all of this.
Even if it got that far Zeke would still have to serve the suspension right now

Not getting the TRO or permanent injunction was the killer.......everything else is irrelevant now

Who cares if he wins in 2019?....... he gets a million dollars back but loses that much in legal fees if not more
 
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Never asked for your help. Since the nfl specifically suspended him for dv and followed the 6 game mandate...and you think that is correct, then obviously you think he is guilty of dv and had a fair hearing. I can't help you.
Reading comprehension isn't a strong suit with you I see.

You are talking about the suspension.

I'm talking about Elliott's need to grow up. To mature into a grown man who makes good decisions for his own sake. This is true whether he got railroaded or not. And I think he did get railroaded. He got caught in the NFL's domestic violence vortex created by botched investigations of Ray Rice and Josh Brown. He is also a victim of the absolute power handed to Goodell by the players in the CBA. It's unfortunate, but it's done.

But none of this changes my main point: Zeke needs to grow up. Even his father says it. Once he sits out the 6 games, I don't want him to get in trouble again. To avoid trouble, he needs to hang with a better crowd when he goes out. If he continues to think it's a good idea to hang with crack addicted tramps, he going to get in trouble again. And next time it will be his career. It's really up to him. Goodell would love nothing better than to nail him again. Zeke has to make sure he doesn't give him a reason to.
 

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Churchill said "Capitalism is the uneven distribution of wealth. Socialism is the even distribution of poverty. And Communism is Socialism with a gun at your back".

I'm not arguing the merits of capitalism vs. socialism, or any other economic system. Just pointing out that money breeds corruption, and the NFL and capitalism produce a crap ton of money, so corruption is always on the table. So many on here think we have a squeaky clean sport and a squeaky clean league, but it's just not the case.
 

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Honestly Trouty,

I doubt SCOTUS would even take the case. There is too much historical background on how the NFL and the Union work. Besides, nobody wants that. The Owners do not want to go to SCOTUS, the NFLPA, if they are smart, would not want to see this happen and SCOTUS doesn't want it.

I think that eventually, this will die a slow death and that will be that. The best we can hope for, IMO, is that Zeke learns from all of this.

Although I would love to see the Supreme Court decide the fundamental fairness issue, I agree. The issue as far as the courts are concerned was always going to be whether the NFL acted in accordance with the authority given to it in its CBA. Elliott's lawyers and the NFLPA cannot show that it did not.

The unfairness of the NFL's action got the case this far, but eventually some judge was going to strike down that argument as essentially irrelevant. Ultimately, Elliott's best hope is going to be civil action, seeking harm for the damage caused by the league for its finding against him (considering all of the evidence that it chose to ignore).

I was hopeful that this judge would find reason to keep an injunction in place to at least take a closer look at the merits of the case, but this outcome was eventually inevitable.
 

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Reading comprehension isn't a strong suit with you I see.

You are talking about the suspension.

I'm talking about Elliott's need to grow up. To mature into a grown man who makes good decisions for his own sake. This is true whether he got railroaded or not. And I think he did get railroaded. He got caught in the NFL's domestic violence vortex created by botched investigations of Ray Rice and Josh Brown. He is also a victim of the absolute power handed to Goodell by the players in the CBA. It's unfortunate, but it's done.

But none of this changes my main point: Zeke needs to grow up. Even his father says it. Once he sits out the 6 games, I don't want him to get in trouble again. To avoid trouble, he needs to hang with a better crowd when he goes out. If he continues to think it's a good idea to hang with crack addicted tramps, he going to get in trouble again. And next time it will be his career. It's really up to him. Goodell would love nothing better than to nail him again. Zeke has to make sure he doesn't give him a reason to.

Again, your assumption is that he is guilty by stating "I don't want him to get in trouble again".

By your standards, Goodell could ban him for life tomorrow for any reason he chooses or more hearsay. Or, he could call for another investigation and the investigator could say "I recommend no suspension" and Roger could still ban him for life, because he doesn't have to be fair under the CBA. Heck, he could also ban for life Irving, Prescott and Lawrence. No proof, legal charges or evidence is necessary.

Your good with that I'm sure, since it's the basis of your argument.

I don't think it's done and if I were Zeke I would fight to the end including continuing this in court and then civil court and sue every last mother that was included in this.

I think Goodell is wrong, you think Zeke is.
 
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