PFT: Hall of Fame speeches don't exhibit Hall of Fame quality

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Posted by Mike Florio on August 10, 2009 11:04 PM ET

In previewing with Steve Duemig of WDAE earlier today some of my thoughts for improving the annual Hall of Fame enshrinement ceremony, I explained that my goal would be to raise the points delicately and diplomatically.

But then I realized that I never do things that way. So why try now?

The ceremony in its current form stinks, and it needs to change.

Case in point -- when I returned to the hotel room Saturday night after attending the ceremony, my wife asked why NBC doesn't televise it.

My response: "Did you watch it? Then there's your answer."

Before I go any farther, let me be clear. I don't fault the folks who run the Hall of Fame for choosing to exhibit respect and deference to the newest members of the club. The Hall of Fame exists to celebrate these folks; it would be impossible for the Hall of Fame to dictate in conjunction with their entry terms and conditions regarding the content and duration of their acceptance speeches.

And I don't advocate impinging upon the moment in the sun of a person who is commencing football immortality. Instead, the goal should be to help make it even better.

The Hall of Fame entrance speech represents, for most enshrinees, the last official act of their pro football careers. Shouldn't they want to give speeches that are truly memorable, speeches that entertain and/or move and/or inspire the audience?

Sure they should, and surely they do. But most of them are apparently left to their own devices when it comes to preparing the speech.

Politicians, who talk for a living, don't write their own speeches. So why should people who played football for a living be expected to write a speech without help? (In the event any of the new members who gave speeches on Saturday night actually had help, someone owes each of them a huge apology. And perhaps a refund.)

Think of it this way. Writers determine who'll get into the Hall of Fame. Some of those same writers likely would be thrilled to have a chance to help craft the speeches.

Still, to make something like that happen, the league will need to intervene, and to take over the entire operation.

It's not as if the league hasn't tried. We're told that the NFL Films-style introductory videos were aimed at cutting down on the duration of the remarks given by the persons introducing the new members. But, as we hear it, the folks who run the Hall of Fame didn't have the heart to break the news to the new members and the folks introducing them.

In the case of Hall of Fame speeches, memorable moments are rare, which is why the periodic speaker who nails it (e.g., Michael Irvin in 2007) is never forgotten.

Ideally, every speaker should fall into this category. Though that goal might be unattainable, the outcome would be something much better than what we witnessed on Saturday night.

Again, I'm not knocking the event. I'm just trying to get it to reflect the same degree of excellence exhibited by the persons whose careers have qualified them from the award they are receiving.
 

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If anyone has heard interviews with some players, it's really no wonder why many induction speaches suck.

Players play because of their ability on the field, not their oratory abilities.
 

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Irvin raised the bar last year.


Just wait till Larry Allen gives his speech.

:D
 

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Personally, I would rather not hear a speech that wasn't written by or didn't in some way come from the person being enshrined.

This article reads like a plea from an understimulated kid who miserably sat through his high school graduation ceremony because he had to listen to the Principle speak and they were not allowed to throw their hats into the air.

It is what it is. It's an induction ceremony, not a Hollywood movie. People give speeches at these sorts of things, and not everyone is a good speaker. If a person is bored by that, that person can elect not to watch. Just my opinion...
 

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The Dodger;2876724 said:
Personally, I would rather not hear a speech that wasn't written by or didn't in some way come from the person being enshrined.

This article reads like a plea from an understimulated kid who miserably sat through his high school graduation ceremony because he had to listen to the Principle speak and they were not allowed to throw their hats into the air.

It is what it is. It's an induction ceremony, not a Hollywood movie. People give speeches at these sorts of things, and not everyone is a good speaker. If a person is bored by that, that person can elect not to watch. Just my opinion...


I agree. But I also think these players should seek out some professional assistance. Perhaps the HOF can offer it to future inductees. You don't want to embarras or insult anyone, just make it availible to all inductees.
Or pehaps make it a standard practice. Use time constrant issues as an excuse for a speech review. I'm sure a lot of these guys with little public speaking experience would welcome the assistance.
 

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zrinkill;2876719 said:
Just wait till Larry Allen gives his speech.

:D

No kidding.

That's going to be bizarre. I keep imagining him going up there with a t-shirt and a dip of snuff in his lip and mumbling, "thanks," then walking away.
 

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That would be so great. Just walks up- says thank you- walks away. It would be priceless.
 

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I hate to say it but Roger was terrible. He had 7 months to prepare and he sounded like he was being interviewed and talking right off the top of his head. I was disappointed in his speech.
 

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Chief;2876752 said:
No kidding.

That's going to be bizarre. I keep imagining him going up there with a t-shirt and a dip of snuff in his lip and mumbling, "thanks," then walking away.
He'll probably not even stop at the podium, just walk by say thanks and take his seat.

ArmyCowboy;2876813 said:
Just wait for Emmitt.
Made-up words FTW !
 

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CaptainAmerica;2876807 said:
I hate to say it but Roger was terrible. He had 7 months to prepare and he sounded like he was being interviewed and talking right off the top of his head. I was disappointed in his speech.
I feel the same way. Part of it seemed like he didn't really know Hayes and was fumbling for stuff to say.

The other posters had it right. No speaker in recent memory has touched Michael Irvin's speech. I guess because Michael was honest and forthcoming about his problems, and his affection for his teammates, more than trying to glorify his career. I'd have to say that the only HOF speech I've watched in it's entirety in over a decade would be Irvins. Not that I want all the HOF speeches to be confessional, but few things are more compelling than honesty.
 

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ArmyCowboy;2876813 said:
Larry Allen?

Just wait for Emmitt.

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burmafrd;2876801 said:
That would be so great. Just walks up- says thank you- walks away. It would be priceless.

:lmao2: Yeah it would. LA has always been a man of few words. I agree. It would be strange to actually endure a whole speech form him but I can't wait to see the big guy up there!
 

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ArmyCowboy;2876813 said:
Just wait for Emmitt.

That will be an unequivocal train wreck.

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zrinkill;2876719 said:
Irvin raised the bar last year.


Just wait till Larry Allen gives his speech.

:D

Walks up to the podium, pulls out his notes. "Um... Thank you." Walks off.
 

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sonnyboy;2876743 said:
Perhaps the HOF can offer it to future inductees. You don't want to embarras or insult anyone, just make it availible to all inductees.
I think that would be fine...I just don't want the help to be so thorough that we lose the personality of the speaker in the process, no matter how boring the speaker might be.
 

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I wonder who the players/presenters think the speech is for.

Is it for the player to say some things that he's always wanted to say and now is his big chance? Woodson took the opportunity to talk about his faith and give some nuggets of wisdom, so did Irvin. Great speechs but is that what they are for?

Is it for them to express their gratitude to everyone that was important in their life?

Is it for the presenter to talk about the contribution the player made to the game?

Is it for the fans to hear from the player they have cheered for, about how it was to play for their team, with and against other great players, etc.?

I'm not saying it should be any one thing, just wondering, if we were to ask some of them, who they thought it was for and what purpose it served.
 

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Roger really helped out Bullett after he got out of prison. So its not like he did not know him. Roger just was not able to hold his composure well- which was truly unusual for him. Like the day he retired. Just tells you how much he cared- and how angry he was that this took so long.
 

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I would like to thank my god, my family and my fifth-grade football coach for this oppertunity to make it into the Hall of Fame.
As i look upon you in da adience I see the looks of greatness and stuff.
That those before me did not die in vein and gave me the chance to excell and be good.

Yes, I know the feeling of hearing these horrendous speeches. Yes, good points on how it could be better.
These menchilds who were not trained to speak or write are left as victims at the altar of greatment, sputtering cliche, hyperbole and non sequiturs. As they squirm in the spotlight I cringe at the mind-numbingly incoherent and childlike speeches. Little preparation and poorly executed in approach and vision.
These are not orators, they are athletes or former athletes. Give them some help in the Englitch language, please!!!
 
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