News: PFT: Malcolm Jenkins sides with Ezekiel Elliott in battle with NFL

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The memes will win this war. Use your imagination and spread them far and wide. Maybe start a thread somewhere on the cowboyszone that encourages generating the best memes to be spread
 

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What "gray area" is Zeke in? Someone accuses you and while you may not be guilty, you are now in a "gray area"? The NFL's own investigator found the complainant less than credible and recommended no punishment. That's all I need to know. There is no gray there.

Zeke's lapse of judgement has put him in the grey area. Yes while no charges were brought there was something there however small call it circumstantial. Sort of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. There definitely was not enough there for the NFL to brand a player a DV abuser. The only hitch in this giddyup is the fact the NFL had to brand him as an "abuser". You cannot throw things around like that and expect zero push back, especially with nothing concrete to back it up and that can be where the NFL ultimately gets undone.
 

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I'm relieved to see some players with a reasonable measure of empathy come to Ezekiel's cause. Goodell's idea of justice is pathetic to a point of disgust for anyone with a sense of right and wrong. Accusing anyone of a crime without sufficient proof is either evil or seriously misguided. Either way, it calls for correctional measures to be forthcoming. It's hard to imagine anyone in such a high position of authority being so stubbornly blind.
 
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Good for Malcom Jenkins. It just needs one player to stand up and speak out, then others will follow.
Of course that can go the other way too such as that ex SF QB guy.

But in this case for Zeke, more players need to step up and speak out against the NFL FO and the handling of it. Get them on notice now, if it is not changed we will strike.
 

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Zeke, the NFL and the owners are caught in a bad spot. Watch the news, the internet and twitter,

If you touch someone, look at them wrong or say something someone else don’t like. They try an shame you publicly. Social Media destroying the truth. In Today society just the perception of something wrong is believed as a fact.

Political correctness gone to far,
 

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Zeke, the NFL and the owners are caught in a bad spot. Watch the news, the internet and twitter,

If you touch someone, look at them wrong or say something someone else don’t like. They try an shame you publicly. Social Media destroying the truth. In Today society just the perception of something wrong is believed as a fact.

Political correctness gone to far,

The last episode of the Orville made that the central theme of their show this past week.

They went to a planet where the justice system was done through social media. Enough downvotes and you get sent for reconditioning(they mess up your brain big time). It’s worth a watch.
 

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What "gray area" is Zeke in? Someone accuses you and while you may not be guilty, you are now in a "gray area"? The NFL's own investigator found the complainant less than credible and recommended no punishment. That's all I need to know. There is no gray there.

He also may be guilty, so it's a gray area. Just because the investigator found the complainant less than credible, it doesn't mean he didn't do anything. It only means there's reasonable doubt. I think Jenkins was smart to say he's in a gray area because there's no way for him to know if Elliott is guilty or not guilty, which is the problem with this punishment. The league found him guilty when the court system understood that it could not because of the credibility issues.
 

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Not a big fan of Jenkins due to the fact he's iconic for attention. He's proven it numerous of times as of late making the news siding with Kaepernick "athletes have responsibility to keep Colin Kaepernicks message alive". Now, IMO, he's siding with Zeke to make the news yet once again. Another attention seeker. But who am I to judge, after all, I'm just another fan putting coin in these millionaire's pockets.
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Not a big fan of Jenkins due to the fact he's iconic for attention. He's proven it numerous of times as of late making the news siding with Kaepernick "athletes have responsibility to keep Colin Kaepernicks message alive". Now, IMO, he's siding with Zeke to make the news yet once again. Another attention seeker. But who am I to judge, after all, I'm just another fan putting coin in these millionaire's pockets.
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He also may be guilty, so it's a gray area. Just because the investigator found the complainant less than credible, it doesn't mean he didn't do anything. It only means there's reasonable doubt. I think Jenkins was smart to say he's in a gray area because there's no way for him to know if Elliott is guilty or not guilty, which is the problem with this punishment. The league found him guilty when the court system understood that it could not because of the credibility issues.


He may be guilty of DV, but so might you or me. I would hate to be thought of us as being in a "gray area" because a less than credible person is the one accusing me. That is still being tainted by an unproven accusation.
 

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Not sure why more players aren't speaking out against this, especially as vigorously as the NFLPA is fighting it. If Goodell can do this to Zeke, he can do this to any of them.
 

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He may be guilty of DV, but so might you or me. I would hate to be thought of us as being in a "gray area" because a less than credible person is the one accusing me. That is still being tainted by an unproven accusation.

If someone accused me of domestic violence, then yes, I would be in a "gray area," too, because few, if any, would know whether I committed it. No matter what happens with the suspension, this will stick with Elliott to some extent because of that. That's why it's important to surround yourself with people you can trust and not put yourself in situation where this might happen IMO. You can't control everything, but there's a certain amount you can control.

Expecting any player to completely exonerate Elliott is expecting too much since they don't know if he did it. The best they can do is say, I don't know what happened, but Elliott was not charged for it and should not be punished by the league like he's been proven guilty.
 

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Zeke, the NFL and the owners are caught in a bad spot. Watch the news, the internet and twitter,

If you touch someone, look at them wrong or say something someone else don’t like. They try an shame you publicly. Social Media destroying the truth. In Today society just the perception of something wrong is believed as a fact.

Political correctness gone to far,
I agree with this to a point because on the other hand you have folks that want to say we've become too PC so they can say all types of wild stuff. I do agree there needs to be a middle ground and not just this silliness that social media has seemingly led to. Lastly in fairness if you aren't a big star and or don't say something crazy you'll be okay speaking your mind even today. I know people and I'm pretty sure most do that say all types of things and nothing happens because they aren't know and or they don't say it on social media.
 

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Not a big fan of Jenkins due to the fact he's iconic for attention. He's proven it numerous of times as of late making the news siding with Kaepernick "athletes have responsibility to keep Colin Kaepernicks message alive". Now, IMO, he's siding with Zeke to make the news yet once again. Another attention seeker. But who am I to judge, after all, I'm just another fan putting coin in these millionaire's pockets.
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The best they can do is say, I don't know what happened, but Elliott was not charged for it and should not be punished by the league like he's been proven guilty.

That's all I would ask for. But calling it a "gray area" still gives an unproven accusation too much weight, IMHO. Whatever, I guess.
 

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Not sure why more players aren't speaking out against this, especially as vigorously as the NFLPA is fighting it. If Goodell can do this to Zeke, he can do this to any of them.

Yeah, that's a tough logic. Most people never expect themselves to be a victim of a false accusation and are all too willing to strip procedural protections from people they "know are guilty."
 
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