PFT Minicamp reports on SF, Oak, Car, B-More, Chi

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POSTED 12:59 p.m. EDT, May 6, 2007

PFT MINICAMP REPORT
The draft is over but the offseason won't be slowing down just yet. Minicamps will be popping up throughout the league, and here's a look at what's going on in each of the cities where folks are playing football in helmets, T-shirts, and shorts.

San Francisco: A league source tells us that WR Ashley Lelie, a new free agent, is already injured, and that players are questioning his toughness. . . . Ditto for OT Jonas Jennings, who won't practice at all during this minicamp. . . . Other players out due to injury are TE Delanie Walker, WR Darrell Jackson, C Eric Heitmann, and CB Shawntae Spencer. . . . QB Trent Dilfer slammed his helmet to the ground after CB Nate Clements intercepted a Dilfer pass and returned it for a score. (You'd think Dilfer would be used to getting picked off by now.) . . . . Fourth-round rookie LB Jay Moore drops into pass coverage like a man who weighs far less than 275 pounds. . . . LB Manny Lawson thought that he was being held by TE Vernon Davis, so Lawson tore of his shirt and threw it down and said multiple times, "If you want it, you can have it!" Said Davis in response: "He just got mad because I beat him."

Oakland: WR Mike Williams is hobbled by a hamstring injury; he left practice on Saturday after initially injuring the muscle on Friday. "However you want to phrase it, he's blown a chance," said coach Lane Kiffin, regarding Williams' failed stint in Detroit. . . . Seventh-round WR Jonathan Holland is out with a separated right shoulder. . . . Second-year player Darnell Bing has been moved from linebacker back to strong safety, where he played at USC. . . . Robert Gallery and Barry Sims are alternating between left tackle and right tackle. . . . DT Warren Sapp has lost 49 pounds. . . . Said WR Jerry Porter regarding rookie QB JaMarcus Russell: "Looks like someone hired a JUGS machine and put a jersey on it."

Carolina: LB Dan Morgan is back after his latest concussion ended his 2006 season in September. . . . WR Dwayne Jarrett made an acrobatic catch on Saturday. . . . Jarrett is wearing No. 80. . . . Fourth-round rookie Ryne Robinson is the top punt returner, with Chris Horn as the backup. . . . Six players were held out of practice on Saturday due to injury. . . . WR Steve Smith likes the new offense: "If you want to compare it, it's like sitting in coach and moving up to first class."

Baltimore: The Ravens conducted a two-day rookie minicamp, where first-rounder Ben Grubbs made his debut. "I think it went well," he said. . . . Former Lions and Jets defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson, who previously worked for the Ravens, stopped by for a visit, but head coach Brian Billick says that there are no plans to hire him. . . . G.M. Ozzie Newsome says that the team is negotiating with LB Terrell Suggs, whose rookie contract expires after 2007.

Chicago: Third-round rookie LB Michael Okwo could fill the void eventually created by LB Lance Briggs. To do so, Okwo will have to beat out 2006 fourth-rounder Jamar Williams. . . . Undrafted UNLV S Jay Staggs was relentless in his efforts to get a shot at the NFL. . . . Rookie TE Fontel Mines is at the team's rookie camp on a tryout basis, and might win a contract due to some nice downfield catches on Saturday. . . . WR David Ball and QB Chris Leak, both undrafted rookies, have been impressive. . . . Rookie RB Garrett Wolfe, on his lack of height: "People say I'm 5-7 . . . well, I'm not trying to dunk a basketball out here. So I'm not sure where 5-7 matters."
More to come.​
 

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WoodysGirl;1489838 said:
POSTED 12:59 p.m. EDT, May 6, 2007



Oakland: WR Mike Williams is hobbled by a hamstring injury; he left practice on Saturday after initially injuring the muscle on Friday. "However you want to phrase it, he's blown a chance," said coach Lane Kiffin, regarding Williams' failed stint in Detroit. . . . . . . .​

What does this mean about Williams? He blew his chance in Oakland too?
 

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fortdick;1489843 said:
What does this mean about Williams? He blew his chance in Oakland too?
It sounds like it, but actually, it's not. The quote is correct, but it's in a larger Mike Williams article about his stint in Detroit.
 

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I predict that Dwayne Jarrett will have the best season of any of the rookie WRs this year.

Mostly because he is likely to start from day-1 but also because the kid can PLAY!

Calvin Johnson may end up having a better career but Jarrett will have a better rookie season.

You heard it here first. :starspin
 

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THUMPER;1489850 said:
I predict that Dwayne Jarrett will have the best season of any of the rookie WRs this year.

Mostly because he is likely to start from day-1 but also because the kid can PLAY!

Calvin Johnson may end up having a better career but Jarrett will have a better rookie season.

You heard it here first. :starspin
You do realize that Calvin Johnson is playing in Mike Martz's system right?
 

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Ya, but with Calvin Johnson and Roy Williams, Kitna is going to the Pro Bowl this year.
 

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big dog cowboy;1490001 said:
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Is that guy crazy or what? He won't make it through preseason.


Its a case where the NFL needs to step in and tell him "enough is enough". We aren't going to let you back out there.
 

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BlueStar22;1490137 said:
but Kitna's QB.

Kitna can get the ball to em. He threw for over 4K last year. Hes not a hero by any means but he can get the ball to a receiver.
 

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I thought the Lawson incident was interesting. I wanted Manny over Carp a year ago (and still think he's probably the more athletic 3-4 LB of the two), but I'm beginning to understand the pick. This isn't the first thing I've heard from him. If you're building a team of high character guys, man, I'll take guys like Bobby and Witten over Manny and Vernon any day.
 

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speedkilz88;1490070 said:
You do realize that Calvin Johnson is playing in Mike Martz's system right?

Yep. I also realize that the Lions didn't address their O-Line, neither in FA nor the draft and in fact they let Ross Verba go and the guy they signed to replace him on 3/26 (Zach Piller) was cut last Friday. They brought in former Ravens OG Edwin Mulitalo who missed most of last year in Baltimore. He might be an upgrade over Verba but not much of one. Kitna was sacked 63 times last season and it could be worse this year.

Their other starting OG is our own beloved Stephen Peterman. As great as Calvin Johnson might someday be, they would have been better served as a team to trade the pick and get some O-Line help.

The Lions aren't going anywhere this year. They have no blocking, not much of a running game, their defense stinks, and they didn't do much in the draft to help themselves taking a WR and QB (Drew Stanton) with their first two picks.

I do believe that Jonson will have the better career but in their rookie seasons, I believe Jarrett will have the better year.
 

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How heavy and out of shape will LA report this summer?
 

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Thehoofbite;1490213 said:
Its a case where the NFL needs to step in and tell him "enough is enough". We aren't going to let you back out there.

If a docotor clearded I don't know what the NFL could do. I agree with you that he shouldn't be playing anymore.
 
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What has Vernon Davis done to get lumped in with Lawson, other than being confident in his abilities and get injured halfway through his rookie season?
 

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I drafted Vernon on my fantasy team. Layed a giant EGG. But man he is fast.:laugh2:
 

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THUMPER;1489850 said:
I predict that Dwayne Jarrett will have the best season of any of the rookie WRs this year.

Mostly because he is likely to start from day-1 but also because the kid can PLAY!

Calvin Johnson may end up having a better career but Jarrett will have a better rookie season.

You heard it here first. :starspin

I was pissed that we passed on Jarrett. I really thought that when we jumped back into the first round, that we had targeted Jarrett.
 

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As a Ravens fan, It is going to be tough as ish to re-sign Suggs... Also, Chris Mcallister AND Todd Heap are also about to have their contracts expire; We don't have the cap room to keep all of them... Suggs had a contract escalator that said that if he reached 40 sacks in four years he gets mucho mula. Hopefully they will be at the camp because it may be my last chance to see them play here in B-more
 
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