News: PFT: NFL reiterates request to dismiss Ezekiel Elliott’s Texas lawsuit

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As the question of whether the injunction blocking Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott‘s suspension moves toward a Monday hearing in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, the NFL has once again tried to get the entire case thrown out of court. Via the Associated Press, the NFL’s latest filing in connection with [more]http://youwillnotrackme2.net/b.gif?host=profootballtalk.nbcsports.com&blog=&post=2480500&subd=nbcprofootballtalk&ref=&feed=1

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As the question of whether the injunction blocking Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott‘s suspension moves toward a Monday hearing in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, the NFL has once again tried to get the entire case thrown out of court. Via the Associated Press, the NFL’s latest filing in connection with [more]
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I don't see how they would toss the case before the hearing on Monday.

Seems like a desperate move on NFL's part
 

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It's not a ridiculous argument. Arguably, the case was not sufficiently ripe for the courts until Henderson's arbitration ruling was handed down. As a general matter, litigants are expected to exhaust their remedies under arbitration proceedings provided by a CBA before turning to the courts.

The difficulty for the NFL is three-fold: 1. Judge Mazzant convincingly found that the wrong in this case was a procedural wrong (failure by Henderson to admit evidence that the CBA required be admitted) that was independent of and didn't need to wait for the outcome of Henderson's decision; 2. Mazzant also properly pointed out that the injunction remedy is intended to prevent damage before it occurs -- in this case, the remedy would have been rendered useless if Zeke waited for the outcome of Henderson's decision since the damage would have been done (particularly as it would have allowed the NFL to control timing and jurisdiction of seeking court confirmation of Henderson's decision); and 3. the NFL undercut its position by filing the appeal with the 5th circuit before Mazzant had rendered his decision (giving the appearance that its complaint is tactical rather than principled).
 
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Lawyer here. The lack of jurisdiction argument by the NFL is not desperate and has a decent chance of success, as the 5th Circuit asked the NFL to submit additional briefing on that point. There is a decent chance that the NFLPA's case in Texas gets dismissed, leaving the NFLs case in New York - its home court where they have good 2nd Circuit precedent from the Brady case - as the only case.
 

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Lawyer here. The lack of jurisdiction argument by the NFL is not desperate and has a decent chance of success, as the 5th Circuit asked the NFL to submit additional briefing on that point. There is a decent chance that the NFLPA's case in Texas gets dismissed, leaving the NFLs case in New York - its home court where they have good 2nd Circuit precedent from the Brady case - as the only case.
I agree with this. In fact, I pointed out earlier this week that they had a strong case with this line of arguing, and got pretty roundly attacked. Oh well.

My biggest fear where I think the NFL has their strongest point is when they write about how allowing this case to proceed would invite all sorts of "premature place-holder lawsuits." They're absolutely right, so it will be interesting to see how CA5 feels about it.
 

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Lawyer here. The lack of jurisdiction argument by the NFL is not desperate and has a decent chance of success, as the 5th Circuit asked the NFL to submit additional briefing on that point. There is a decent chance that the NFLPA's case in Texas gets dismissed, leaving the NFLs case in New York - its home court where they have good 2nd Circuit precedent from the Brady case - as the only case.

So every case has to be heard in NY?

That's what the NFL is arguing, that NY is the only Court on the planet that can hear cases involving the NFL.

That's going to be a hard sell to the 5th
 

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I agree with this. In fact, I pointed out earlier this week that they had a strong case with this line of arguing, and got pretty roundly attacked. Oh well.

My biggest fear where I think the NFL has their strongest point is when they write about how allowing this case to proceed would invite all sorts of "premature place-holder lawsuits." They're absolutely right, so it will be interesting to see how CA5 feels about it.
But if Zeke or any future player waits till the ruling is out, the NFL will file first since they would know when the ruling would come out.

So again, the NFL is arguing that every case that comes up, they have first dibs on venue selection. How is that fair?
 

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Lawyer here. The lack of jurisdiction argument by the NFL is not desperate and has a decent chance of success, as the 5th Circuit asked the NFL to submit additional briefing on that point. There is a decent chance that the NFLPA's case in Texas gets dismissed, leaving the NFLs case in New York - its home court where they have good 2nd Circuit precedent from the Brady case - as the only case.

What standing does the NFL have to bring a case over its own arbitration process? How is the NFL harmed?
 

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But if Zeke or any future player waits till the ruling is out, the NFL will file first since they would know when the ruling would come out.
You're absolutely right, but it would be improper for CA5 to make a ruling which affects arbitration law in the entire district based solely on the fact that the NFLPA wasn't smart enough to demand an impartial arbitrator in the last CBA.
So again, the NFL is arguing that every case that comes up, they have first dibs on venue selection. How is that fair?
I never said it was fair but unfortunately, courts are not as concerned with fairness as they perhaps should be.
 

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My biggest fear where I think the NFL has their strongest point is when they write about how allowing this case to proceed would invite all sorts of "premature place-holder lawsuits." They're absolutely right, so it will be interesting to see how CA5 feels about it.

As suggested by Judge Mazzant, I think the NFLPA has a convincing response: this wasn't a "premature place-holder lawsuit." Henderson's procedural error in failing to admit evidence that the CBA required be admitted gave rise to a fully matured claim. Nothing further (certainly not Henderson's ruling) was required in order for Zeke to seek relief from the courts from the arbitrator's procedural error.

Moreover, where the claim is for an injunction, requiring a litigant to await the very outcome that could cause him or her irreparable damage strips the injunction remedy of its usefulness. The whole point of an injunction is to prevent damage from occurring before it occurs. From that perspective, an exception from the general requirement that litigants must exhaust their remedies under the CBA (including arbitration) before turning to the courts is warranted in cases where an injunction is sought to prevent the arbitrator's decision from causing the litigant irreparable damage.
 

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It has 0 shot of success........ all the work has been done in Texas where Zeke works and is getting harmed...... they would have to start all over in NY for why???? ....... no good reason

The NFL had no problem judge shopping last time with Brady and the NFLPA knew they were going to do the same thing again ....... and Mazzant even exposed their ruse when the NFL was forced to say EE could play Week One because it was after 4pm Tues....... then Henderson all of a sudden gave his verdict ...... they were planning on screwing EE at the last minute, still suspending him Week One and getting HIS case heard in NY
 

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They're sure acting fast now after going at a molases pace before handing down the suspension. They make themselves look more and more sinister with these dumb moves (suspending the NY punter after the fact, not listening to lead investigator, etc)
 
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So every case has to be heard in NY?

That's what the NFL is arguing, that NY is the only Court on the planet that can hear cases involving the NFL.

That's going to be a hard sell to the 5th
It's a good point you make, and maybe CA5 bends the law a bit to rule against the NFL here. But the rule of law is that you must exhaust administrative remedy before filing a lawsuit.
 

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Lawyer here. The lack of jurisdiction argument by the NFL is not desperate and has a decent chance of success, as the 5th Circuit asked the NFL to submit additional briefing on that point. There is a decent chance that the NFLPA's case in Texas gets dismissed, leaving the NFLs case in New York - its home court where they have good 2nd Circuit precedent from the Brady case - as the only case.

And the nfl filed before the Mazzant injunction ruling...
 

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They're sure acting fast now after going at a molases pace before handing down the suspension. They make themselves look more and more sinister with these dumb moves (suspending the NY punter after the fact, not listening to lead investigator, etc)

yeah no kidding, 13 months to interview 5 witnesses,,,
 

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It's a good point you make, and maybe CA5 bends the law a bit to rule against the NFL here. But the rule of law is that you must exhaust administrative remedy before filing a lawsuit.
Not when the CBA was breached. NFL wants to get away from irreparable harm (which Zeke wins easily) and work jurisdiction which is their only chance. However, anything can happen with this motions panel/judge from CA5.
 
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