PFT: T.O. Gettin Cut???

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Chocolate Lab;2564083 said:
JFE did say that some higher ups in the organization have told Jerry that TO isn't worth the trouble anymore. All she would say was that it wasn't Wade.
Wade's a higher up?
 

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lqmac1;2562612 said:
it says there's talk in dallas of that happening

The "talk" in "Dallas" is coming from the media and fans. Not necessarily from the Cowboys organization.
 

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I was listening to the local sports talk radio show, where they had Shawn Springs on. I didn't hear the question he was asked because I was wrapping up a work phone call, but I heard Springs say this.... "If you jam Terrell Owens at the line, the play is over."

This is something that is well known, of course. But it just amazes me how a player as big and as fast as Owens can be taken out of the game so easily.

Personally, I hope he gets cut - and I've been one of his most ardent suporters since we acquired him. I'm tired of his post game press conferences, his sit down interviews with Sanders, his sideline tantrums, his drops, and his misguided belief that him being the focal point of an offense is the key to success.

Newsflash Owens... you've been the focal point everywhere you've been, and you've never won a Championship.

Give me Roy Williams with a year in the system and with Romo on one side, Miles Austin on the other, and either Crayton or Sam Hurd in the slot. Make the running game the focal point of the offense, with Williams and Witten the primary targets in the passing game.

Do that, and this team would experience more success than it would trying to pacify Owens on gameday.
 

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HoleInTheRoof;2565020 said:
I was listening to the local sports talk radio show, where they had Shawn Springs on. I didn't hear the question he was asked because I was wrapping up a work phone call, but I heard Springs say this.... "If you jam Terrell Owens at the line, the play is over."

This is something that is well known, of course. But it just amazes me how a player as big and as fast as Owens can be taken out of the game so easily.

Personally, I hope he gets cut - and I've been one of his most ardent suporters since we acquired him. I'm tired of his post game press conferences, his sit down interviews with Sanders, his sideline tantrums, his drops, and his misguided belief that him being the focal point of an offense is the key to success.

Newsflash Owens... you've been the focal point everywhere you've been, and you've never won a Championship.

Give me Roy Williams with a year in the system and with Romo on one side, Miles Austin on the other, and either Crayton or Sam Hurd in the slot. Make the running game the focal point of the offense, with Williams and Witten the primary targets in the passing game.

Do that, and this team would experience more success than it would trying to pacify Owens on gameday.


Yeah, tell that to the numerous corners he beat after getting off the jam. Go back and re-watch that touchdown against the Ravens.

Owens gets among the best releases in football.

"Well known" my ***.


Do that, and this team would experience more success than it would trying to pacify Owens on gameday.

:lmao2:
 

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If TO gets cut, it'll show Jerry hasn't learned anything and that he is just trying to appease some clueless people who know nothing about football...
 

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HoleInTheRoof;2565020 said:
I was listening to the local sports talk radio show, where they had Shawn Springs on. I didn't hear the question he was asked because I was wrapping up a work phone call, but I heard Springs say this.... "If you jam Terrell Owens at the line, the play is over."

Did Springs forget to mention the safety help over the top? Because if tams thought you could simply jam TO at the line and stop him, why even add, Commanders included, help over the top?
 

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41gy#;2563738 said:
You are making my argument easy. You are putting a qualifier on this player's behavior. That is the problem. Owens gets to do or say anything he wants to do or say, and the organization bows.

Why should he be treated any different? Why is he speaking after every game? He shouldn't be "the boss" of this team. Better yet, why should a 9-7 team put up with his eratic behavior. Dallas has plenty of offensive talent. They don't need him to win. I don't need Roy Williams to be "Terrell Owens". I need him to score in the redzone and move the chains.

When things don't go Owens' way or when the ship is taking in water, he runs to the media and blames Garrett or Romo or both. Plus, he gets away with it. He's a horrible example for young players, and he's poison in the locker room. You can't win on a consistent basis with these types of selfish, eratic players. Owens' track record speaks for itself. Where ever he goes, drama follows.

I want winners, not selfish, divas like Terrell Owens that chirp after getting the ball thrown to them 17 or 18 times. His production doesn't make up for the divisive force and disrespectful attitude that he has for players and coaches, including the quarterback.


How do you explain the diva behavior of Steve Smith? That very receiver you heap praise upon praise when you want to boost up your boy Terrance Newman, when Newman shuts him down..
 

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khiladi;2565338 said:
Did Springs forget to mention the safety help over the top? Because if tams thought you could simply jam TO at the line and stop him, why even add, Commanders included, help over the top?
you act like wrs don't ever catch a pass when they're jammed and defended with safety help.
 

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Rampage;2565342 said:
you act like wrs don't ever catch a pass when they're jammed and defended with safety help.

1. Those teams run effective play-actions, causing safeties to hesitate. Jason Garrett doesn't do that. JG likes to continue running vertical routes straight into the heart of the defense, with thatdefense knowing exactly what is coming. Imagine that... You press cover TO, slow him down a little bit, while the safety has plenty of time to stay in front of the play as TO has to run right by the safety who already knows he has to defend the long pass, not the run, while pass protection breaks down for Romo. It's quite obvious why TO didn't explode and Romo kept getting killed.

2. He does catch passes. He caught like 60 passes this year, with teams making an all-out effort to stop him. Imagine if he was actually used properly.

The fact is, if teams think TO lost a step, why are they making efforts to stop him? It is Garrett's fault for the scheming... Garrett is the one that chooses to focus on one type of play. It isn't TOs fault.

3. What happened when the 49ers tried to jam TO without safety help over the middle?
 

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khiladi;2565340 said:
How do you explain the diva behavior of Steve Smith? That very receiver you heap praise upon praise when you want to boost up your boy Terrance Newman, when Newman shuts him down..



Steve Smith may sock dudes in the face, but he doesn't fracture lockerrooms and throw his quarterback and offensive coordinator under the bus during press conferences or interviews when things don't go his way.

Again, when the ship is taking on water, Owens thows people over board when he should be helping unify the team, not divide it.

I'm done with him. I've overlooked his behavior for the last time.
 

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41gy#;2565392 said:
Steve Smith may sock dudes in the face, but he doesn't fracture lockerrooms and throw his quarterback and offensive coordinator under the bus during press conferences or interviews when things don't go his way.

Again, when the ship is taking on water, Owens thows people over board when he should be helping unify the team, not divide it.

I'm done with him. I've overlooked his behavior for the last time.

T.O. does help unify the team.
 

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41gy#;2565392 said:
Steve Smith may sock dudes in the face, but he doesn't fracture lockerrooms and throw his quarterback and offensive coordinator under the bus during press conferences or interviews when things don't go his way.

Again, when the ship is taking on water, Owens thows people over board when he should be helping unify the team, not divide it.

I'm done with him. I've overlooked his behavior for the last time.

Steve Smith does everything TO does... He yells at players and coaches when he doesn't get the ball on the sidelines. You can't deny it.... You may claim it isn't divisive, but it is just as divisive as what TO allegedly does... Didn't you see Romo, Witten and TO laughing it up after their win against the Giants? I guess you pick and choose what you want..

TO isn't at fault for the media giving him so much coverage. The media chooses to report what they report and give their own little flavor to it. The media can find just as much material from Steve Smith and create an image of this divisive lockerroom if the media wanted to..

And how is punching a TEAMMATE not divisive, but yelling at a person on the sidelines is? What type of flawed logic is that?
 

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khiladi;2565415 said:
Steve Smith does everything TO does... He yells at players and coaches when he doesn't get the ball on the sidelines. You can't deny it.... You may claim it isn't divisive, but it is just as divisive as what TO allegedly does... Didn't you see Romo, Witten and TO laughing it up after their win against the Giants? I guess you pick and choose what you want..

TO isn't at fault for the media giving him so much coverage. The media chooses to report what they report and give their own little flavor to it. The media can find just as much material from Steve Smith and create an image of this divisive lockerroom if the media wanted to..

The man seeks the media. How is that not his fault.
In your first sentence you say owens does every thing Smith does.
Then you say he allegedly does, which is it?
 

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HoleInTheRoof;2565020 said:
I was listening to the local sports talk radio show, where they had Shawn Springs on. I didn't hear the question he was asked because I was wrapping up a work phone call, but I heard Springs say this.... "If you jam Terrell Owens at the line, the play is over."

This is something that is well known, of course. But it just amazes me how a player as big and as fast as Owens can be taken out of the game so easily.

I actually heard that interview, so let me put into context what Springs was actually saying.

Springs was asked the question of where he wanted to go after this season (He's an UFA), and he responded by giving two concerns, at least with regards to staying with the Commanders. He said that, one, a lot depended on whether or not DeAngelo Hall and Carlos Rogers were staying, and two, whether or not the Commanders addressed their Offensive and Defensive lines.

When asked to elaborate about what he meant with regards to the latter concern, Springs basically said that a team with a dominant pass rush (He named Dallas and New York primarily) allows the DBs the luxury of getting more interceptions. His quote, and I am paraphrasing a bit here, was something along the lines of "Now, if you have a defensive line like the Giants, what with Tuck and all, it doesn't matter who the other team has, you can press Terrell Owens at the line and it's over."

In other words, Springs was saying that regardless of how good a teams' Wideouts are, if the DL is playing exceptionally, they only need a few seconds (Ala time gained via pressing the WR) to get to the Quarterback and end the play ("...and it's over").

In other words, don't read into it too much with regards to T.O. Remember, Springs and Owens are friends, so if anything, what he said was a compliment.
 

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khiladi;2565415 said:
Steve Smith does everything TO does... He yells at players and coaches when he doesn't get the ball on the sidelines. You can't deny it.... You may claim it isn't divisive, but it is just as divisive as what TO allegedly does... Didn't you see Romo, Witten and TO laughing it up after their win against the Giants? I guess you pick and choose what you want..

TO isn't at fault for the media giving him so much coverage. The media chooses to report what they report and give their own little flavor to it. The media can find just as much material from Steve Smith and create an image of this divisive lockerroom if the media wanted to..

And how is punching a TEAMMATE not divisive, but yelling at a person on the sidelines is? What type of flawed logic is that?


Steve Smith was wrong to punch his teammate. Yes. I'm sure he didn't help himself with teammates; however, he is playing on the same team that drafted him while Owens has put himself on the bubble of being booted for the third time.
 

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Dave_in-NC;2565427 said:
The man seeks the media. How is that not his fault.
In your first sentence you say owens does every thing Smith does.
Then you say he allegedly does, which is it?

Owens 'seeks' the media.. How did he seek it when Werder came up with his crap. Owens does everything Smith does...

http://thedallascowboyshow.com/wordpress/?p=457

Mosley stated this year that Steve Smith wasn't wanted in the lockerroom of the Panthers. Is that not divisive?

Steve Smith punches teammate more than once. In 2002 he does in the film-room and in 2008, he does it to a teammate attraining camp. He also had contract issues, wishing for an extension. He had three years left on his original contract.
 

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Pabst;2565431 said:
In other words, don't read into it too much with regards to T.O. Remember, Springs and Owens are friends, so if anything, what he said was a compliment.

Funny, isn't it... It was a complement..
 
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