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Joe Realist;2747015 said:
I'm a realist who leans a little more to the pessimist side. Listen, I look at the Cowboys and say in 50 years they have accomplished a lot more than the Eagles have in their 75 or whatever years it has been. It's just that I am tired of being owned by them for pretty much this whole decade. Unfortunately, they have had a pretty good run even of they have come up empty while we, seem to be running on empty since 1996. That is a awful long time.

I live about 30 minutes away from the Eagles stadium. I hate them more than anyone. Their fans are awful. The games against them every year are the 2 most important games of the year for me. Last years game was so bad that the eagles fans i was watching the game with actually felt sorry for me. So i know what you mean.

However, even eagles fans look at our team and say they wish they had the talent we have. They wish they had our QB,TE,RB's, They wanted RW11, Ware ect. They even realize that we are an extremely talented team.
They will say that we are a scary team that should go to the superbowl. They said it last year, they will say it again this year.
If eagles fans can see our talent why is it that you can't?

Why does this draft bother you so much? What would you have done that would have made us better this year? We couldnt have gotten a starter at 51.

If our team plays like a team then nothing the eagles, giants, or Commanders can do will matter. If we take care of business and find a way to put it all together then we will still be standing in the end.
 

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Rampage;2747063 said:
why cause it's a new year? are the Lions and vikings equal too? they smashed us last year in a win and your in game, got a franchise Lt, a new rb, a new wr who McNabb is gonna hurt teams with. we have Roy Williams and we're gonna draft a bunch of bums in backups and st players tommorrow.


Yes they are. If the Lions have a draft that puts them over and Everyone screamed how great the Vikings were last year, How did that work out? How about if Chicago pulls it together are the Vikings better than them because last year everyone screamed how great the Vikings were?

It doesnt go off popular votes, this is not a reality tv show. This is real life, where the players, coaches, refs can all make a difference.

we can go in circles til the begining of the season, but calm down and wait and see what happens. Thats the whole point. Dont let ESPN or any of the sport shows give you an opinion. Wait for the events to unfold, you might be shocked.

Personally i stopped listening to these shows because they want ratings and are paid to do a job which no one can predict. Todays dead on report is tomorrows guess.

We dont know how things are going to go and the game has got to be played for their to be a solid concrete verdict, all other talking is just guessing.

How many years did people call for the Cardinals to be good? You scream it enuff, its bound to happen. If they are falter this year, are they still that dominate and the team to beat?
 

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Rampage;2747063 said:
why cause it's a new year? are the Lions and vikings equal too? they smashed us last year in a win and your in game, got a franchise Lt, a new rb, a new wr who McNabb is gonna hurt teams with. we have Roy Williams and we're gonna draft a bunch of bums in backups and st players tommorrow.


Who is this franchise LT? the guy who gave up 12 sacks last year? The one year wonder?

A new RB? a rookie that wont see the field very often. Didnt they also lose Correll Buckhalter?
Doesnt Andy Reid throw the ball more than every other coach in the league?
So this RB is going to really matter? Please explain how.

Didnt they trade away Lito Shepard?
Didnt they lose a solid LT that they had to replace?
Didnt they lose their heart and best defensive player in Brian Dawkins?
Look at their receivers. Whats so special? I player they just drafted that has a better chance of being a bust than a probowler.

If you want to point to their positives then make sure you also point to their negatives.
 

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superonyx;2747076 said:
I live about 30 minutes away from the Eagles stadium. I hate them more than anyone. Their fans are awful. The games against them every year are the 2 most important games of the year for me. Last years game was so bad that the eagles fans i was watching the game with actually felt sorry for me. So i know what you mean.

However, even eagles fans look at our team and say they wish they had the talent we have. They wish they had our QB,TE,RB's, They wanted RW11, Ware ect. They even realize that we are an extremely talented team.
They will say that we are a scary team that should go to the superbowl. They said it last year, they will say it again this year.
If eagles fans can see our talent why is it that you can't?

Why does this draft bother you so much? What would you have done that would have made us better this year? We couldnt have gotten a starter at 51.

If our team plays like a team then nothing the eagles, giants, or Commanders can do will matter. If we take care of business and find a way to put it all together then we will still be standing in the end.
I live near the area so I see alot of the fans, etc. I don't care what the fans say. They boo McNabb and I always told Eagles fans, I would love to have him (pre-Romo). I don't think we are the most talented team. That is hype. But, you have to do something with that talent, which we can't seem to do. My fear is Roy Williams will not be a difference maker.

Now, and I said this before 2008, if the Cowboys can beef up O-line and commit to the run, it would take pressure of Romo ( I doubt he ever duplicates 2007 stats). Control the clock, get the edge in T.O.P. and keep defense fresh, there might be a chance. But, the defensive pressure must be there every game. Unfortunately, it seems the Eagles match up extremely well against the Boys and I want nothing more than to beat them.
 

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superonyx;2747117 said:
Who is this franchise LT? the guy who gave up 12 sacks last year? The one year wonder?

A new RB? a rookie that wont see the field very often. Didnt they also lose Correll Buckhalter?
Doesnt Andy Reid throw the ball more than every other coach in the league?
So this RB is going to really matter? Please explain how.

Didnt they trade away Lito Shepard?
Didnt they lose a solid LT that they had to replace?
Didnt they lose their heart and best defensive player in Brian Dawkins?
Look at their receivers. Whats so special? I player they just drafted that has a better chance of being a bust than a probowler.

If you want to point to their positives then make sure you also point to their negatives.
that new rb will kepp Westbrook fresher as the season goes on

Lito barely played last year

they replaced there LT

yes they lost dawkins but they still have Jimmy Johnson the DC

McNabb makes those wrs special enough. did desean jackson last year?

there negative is they lost in the nfc championship game.
 

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the term difference maker tells me you listen to ESPN way to much. I hate that phrase.

But whatever you want to do man its kewl. You want to tell us how great the Eagles are, you go right for it. Because at the end of the year they wont make the SB either.

At the end of the day we split with them and they lost to the Cardinals, so now the Cardinals are the team to beat. Like anyone will admit to that but hey, they went further. So they must be good, they wont be a one year wonder or anything because ESPN wont admit as much or say it like it is.
 

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Rampage;2747141 said:
that new rb will kepp Westbrook fresher as the season goes on

Lito barely played last year

they replaced there LT

yes they lost dawkins but they still have Jimmy Johnson the DC

McNabb makes those wrs special enough. did desean jackson last year?

there negative is they lost in the nfc championship game.


They can keep JJ i am not impressed with him. They turn their roster well but that hasnt brought in a Lombardi and they draft well and that hasnt brought a Lombardi and they have a good HC and that hasnt brought in a Lombardi and They have a great team and that hasnt brought in a Lombardi and according to you and JR they are the best team EVA and that hasnt brought them a lombardi and they are Gods on the field and that hasnt brought them a lombardi. Keep screaming it enuff and you two will be right when all the other teams in the east are gone.

You know what would be a kick in the head, if Zorn turns it around, remember he went 6-0 and faltered, but if he turns it around and wins the East, are they the team to beat and the best team EVA and gods on the field?
 

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ShiningStar;2747163 said:
They can keep JJ i am not impressed with him. They turn their roster well but that hasnt brought in a Lombardi and they draft well and that hasnt brought a Lombardi and they have a good HC and that hasnt brought in a Lombardi and They have a great team and that hasnt brought in a Lombardi and according to you and JR they are the best team EVA and that hasnt brought them a lombardi and they are Gods on the field and that hasnt brought them a lombardi. Keep screaming it enuff and you two will be right when all the other teams in the east are gone.

You know what would be a kick in the head, if Zorn turns it around, remember he went 6-0 and faltered, but if he turns it around and wins the East, are they the team to beat and the best team EVA and gods on the field?
yeah your just like dbair. you down play anything non cowboys related. yeah it hasn't got them a trophy and we're right behind the 0-16 Lions for longest playoff winning drought. but yeah they suck and we're the best....
 

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Rampage;2747141 said:
that new rb will kepp Westbrook fresher as the season goes on

Lito barely played last year

they replaced there LT

yes they lost dawkins but they still have Jimmy Johnson the DC

McNabb makes those wrs special enough. did desean jackson last year?

there negative is they lost in the nfc championship game.

Buckhalter kept Westbrook as fresh as some rookie will. Westbrook had injury problems. Probably will again.

Having a probowl 3rd corner is a big advantage when you have Jim Johnson as D coach. They blitz out of every formation, Especially 3rd down. Nothing is more important that your corners being able to man up while you blitz. They lost that and Dawkins. Thats huge.

If Mcnabb makes their receivers so special then why have they gone through so many that i bet you cant remember who they had over the last couple years. Who was their last Probowl receiver besides TO? hmmm you dont know do you?

They replaced their LT is all you can say? You said they got a franchise LT and that makes them better. What about the players they lost?

You obviously dont remember how they made the playoffs last year. They were not a dominant team. They backed in to the playoffs in the luckiest way possible. About 5 things had to happen on the last game that was not in their control before our game started.
Stop acting like they are a super team that cant be beat just because you are sore over us not drafting your favorite player today.

What else do you have for me?
 

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superonyx;2747196 said:
Buckhalter kept Westbrook as fresh as some rookie will. Westbrook had injury problems. Probably will again.

Having a probowl 3rd corner is a big advantage when you have Jim Johnson as D coach. They blitz out of every formation, Especially 3rd down. Nothing is more important that your corners being able to man up while you blitz. They lost that and Dawkins. Thats huge.

If Mcnabb makes their receivers so special then why have they gone through so many that i bet you cant remember who they had over the last couple years. Who was their last Probowl receiver besides TO? hmmm you dont know do you?

They replaced their LT is all you can say? You said they got a franchise LT and that makes them better. What about the players they lost?

You obviously dont remember how they made the playoffs last year. They were not a dominant team. They backed in to the playoffs in the luckiest way possible. About 5 things had to happen on the last game that was not in their control before our game started.
Stop acting like they are a super team that cant be beat just because you are sore over us not drafting your favorite player today.

What else do you have for me?
44-6 should sum it up I would think.
 

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superonyx;2747196 said:
Buckhalter kept Westbrook as fresh as some rookie will. Westbrook had injury problems. Probably will again.

Having a probowl 3rd corner is a big advantage when you have Jim Johnson as D coach. They blitz out of every formation, Especially 3rd down. Nothing is more important that your corners being able to man up while you blitz. They lost that and Dawkins. Thats huge.

If Mcnabb makes their receivers so special then why have they gone through so many that i bet you cant remember who they had over the last couple years. Who was their last Probowl receiver besides TO? hmmm you dont know do you?

They replaced their LT is all you can say? You said they got a franchise LT and that makes them better. What about the players they lost?

You obviously dont remember how they made the playoffs last year. They were not a dominant team. They backed in to the playoffs in the luckiest way possible. About 5 things had to happen on the last game that was not in their control before our game started.
Stop acting like they are a super team that cant be beat just because you are sore over us not drafting your favorite player today.

What else do you have for me?

like i said Lito wasn't even playing at the end of the year

Probowl wrs?:laugh2: yeah probowl means nothing just like our 2007 team with 13 of them.

point is the bucs lost and had to beat us to get in and they beat us down. they're not a super unbeatable team but they are better than us. we're nothing more than a bunch of big regular season stats that quits in December. we're nothing special
 

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Joe Realist;2747202 said:
44-6 should sum it up I would think.

44-6 only sums up that on that day in their stadium with the circumstances that the game were played under they were the better team.

Is it so difficult for you to realize that any team can beat any team on any given sunday in the NFL?

You should be ashamed to imply that just because of that one game they are so much better than us. You should understand this sport better than that.
 

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What happened last season in that game means jack this season. Can't you whiners come with anything better?
 

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Super, you are not goign to convince what they have been told and run with til the shows give them another opinion.

I am not downplaying other teams, the Lions might have had a good draft but i didnt keep up with every team.

Sorry the Eagles can draft all they want, its never done anything for them.
 

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superonyx;2747224 said:
44-6 only sums up that on that day in their stadium with the circumstances that the game were played under they were the better team.

Is it so difficult for you to realize that any team can beat any team on any given sunday in the NFL?

You should be ashamed to imply that just because of that one game they are so much better than us. You should understand this sport better than that.


One is an Eagle fan and both get opinions from shows, its a brick wall.
 

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superonyx;2747224 said:
44-6 only sums up that on that day in their stadium with the circumstances that the game were played under they were the better team.

Is it so difficult for you to realize that any team can beat any team on any given sunday in the NFL?

You should be ashamed to imply that just because of that one game they are so much better than us. You should understand this sport better than that.
Sure it means nothing right. It would mean nothing if they had not QUIT. Cmon, the whole country saw the Boys lay down like dogs. You saw it. T.O. became scapegoat and Jerry's pet projects were booted. Great. Wade still here and he last won a playoff game...wait... oh yea, never.
 

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I am going against my own sig and saying I " hope" I am wrong. I would welcome it!
 

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Rampage;2747213 said:
like i said Lito wasn't even playing at the end of the year

Probowl wrs?:laugh2: yeah probowl means nothing just like our 2007 team with 13 of them.

point is the bucs lost and had to beat us to get in and they beat us down. they're not a super unbeatable team but they are better than us. we're nothing more than a bunch of big regular season stats that quits in December. we're nothing special

Ok lets use your words..... What "special" receivers are you referring to? You said Mcnabb makes them special. So who are you referring to. Look back over McNabbs 10+ years and list the "special" ones he made.

When did you say Lito wasnt even playing at the end of last year? Lito played in 16 games last year. How can losing a multi time probowl corner and safety not hurt you defense? Please explain.

Take a look at whats going on with Sheldon Brown right now.
Here is a quick summary:

Unhappy CB Brown sees ‘more problems’ with Eagles

Sheldon Brown is upset with the Eagles and announced Monday that he’s looking for a trade. The Eagles released a statement later in the afternoon saying they wouldn’t trade the veteran cornerback, setting up a possible showdown.

Brown went public again today, telling the Philadelphia Inquirer that many of his teammates feel the same way he does and trouble could be looming for the Eagles:


This is the team that you think is so much better than us?

I look forward to your response...
 

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superonyx;2747270 said:
Ok lets use your words..... What "special" receivers are you referring to? You said Mcnabb makes them special. So who are you referring to. Look back over McNabbs 10+ years and list the "special" ones he made.

When did you say Lito wasnt even playing at the end of last year? Lito played in 16 games last year. How can losing a multi time probowl corner and safety not hurt you defense? Please explain.

Take a look at whats going on with Sheldon Brown right now.
Here is a quick summary:

Unhappy CB Brown sees ‘more problems’ with Eagles

Sheldon Brown is upset with the Eagles and announced Monday that he’s looking for a trade. The Eagles released a statement later in the afternoon saying they wouldn’t trade the veteran cornerback, setting up a possible showdown.

Brown went public again today, telling the Philadelphia Inquirer that many of his teammates feel the same way he does and trouble could be looming for the Eagles:

This is the team that you think is so much better than us?

I look forward to your response...
Mcnabb makes plays with average wrs. they do enough to get the job done. meanwhile Romo has a probowler(you love you some probowlers) at every position.

i said that about Lito go look. he was riding the pine.

oh noes an unhappy player:rolleyes:

let me ask you something, what makes us better than them?

coaches - nope

qb - nope

defense- nope

heart- nope.

as of right now they are better. it's not rocket science
 

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ShiningStar;2747230 said:
Super, you are not goign to convince what they have been told and run with til the shows give them another opinion.

I am not downplaying other teams, the Lions might have had a good draft but i didnt keep up with every team.

Sorry the Eagles can draft all they want, its never done anything for them.

Good point...... I am going to stop trying to convince eagles fans.. i mean cowboys fans..... or whatever...... to be rational and logical.
 
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