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Anyone see the difference between the defenses that played (or are playing) this weekend compared to our defense (over the last 7 years)?


Pressure.


One similiarity though... dropped ints. Gee, I thought only Roy Williams dropped ints?


ANyway, yeah, pressure on the QB. It's night and day watching these Defenses rush the QB compared to our defense rushing the QB.
 

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Watching the Chargers, even when they don't get pressure on the QB, you can at least see their DEs and OLBs being RELENTLESS getting after the passer. You can literally see the effort.

When our guys get blocked they just stand there and choose to hope for the QB to come right to them instead of fighting through the block and getting after the QB.
 

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BP has been on record in PC's saying he doesn't like to blitz much, that it exposes you to the big play. I doubt much changes even with Zimmer gone. And YES, I think we should blitz more, and NO, I don't have a link to his PC's.
 

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Pressure is fine, but you need to delve what goes into creating pressure. Perhaps it's a pure talent, but I see teams that are disguising blitzes and are willing to blitz from the outside which causes a ton of missed assignments by opposing O-Lines.



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Smith22;1313431 said:
BP has been on record in PC's saying he doesn't like to blitz much, that it exposes you to the big play. I doubt much changes even with Zimmer gone. And YES, I think we should blitz more, and NO, I don't have a link to his PC's.

The chargers blitz, but not cuz they have to. They get pressure on the QB with only 4 rushing.


The thing about the blitz is, it works great when it's a luxury. It works horribly when it's a necessity. With us, it worked horribly.


When you can get pressure with 4 rushers, then the blitz can be an effective weapon. Team already have to game plan to stop your 4 man rush so it takes away from preparing for the blitz. When teams know they'll stop your 4 man rush, they can devote more time to preparing for the blitz. Against us, the only person from our 4 man rush teams had to worry about is Ware. They spent plenty of time preparing for the blitz.
 

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Yakuza Rich;1313438 said:
Pressure is fine, but you need to delve what goes into creating pressure. Perhaps it's a pure talent, but I see teams that are disguising blitzes and are willing to blitz from the outside which causes a ton of missed assignments by opposing O-Lines.



YAKUZA

Perhaps it's coaching and/or scheme.
 

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Watching the Chargers, Ravens and Pats, you NEVER know who is coming, guys are moving around constantly, making the OL and offense think. Hell, the offense normally had our guys running around trying to figure out who to cover.

Bottom line, we need another pass rushing threat, and we need an aggressive DC. Creativity would be nice as well.
 

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I really think that in our blitz scheme, the object of our blitzers is to run straight into one of the blockers, and not necessarily to get to the QB. Just go back and watch, when we blitz, we run smack into a blocker. Perhaps it's to occupy the as many blockers as possible so one blitzer can get a free shot, but it just doesn't work for us.
 

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Mr Cowboy;1313508 said:
I really think that in our blitz scheme, the object of our blitzers is to run straight into one of the blockers, and not necessarily to get to the QB. Just go back and watch, when we blitz, we run smack into a blocker. Perhaps it's to occupy the as many blockers as possible so one blitzer can get a free shot, but it just doesn't work for us.

One would think that that was the object, but I can guarantee you that it ISN'T. It's not all scheme and not all coaching (they aren't blameless mind you) . We don't have anyone who has any clue as to how to blitz correctly.........nor do we have any speed at LB.
 

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Smith22;1313476 said:
Watching the Chargers, Ravens and Pats, you NEVER know who is coming, guys are moving around constantly, making the OL and offense think. Hell, the offense normally had our guys running around trying to figure out who to cover.

Bottom line, we need another pass rushing threat, and we need an aggressive DC. Creativity would be nice as well.
That's what I noticed as well. Even on plays in their base D, you could never figure out who was coming. Although they lost, I was really impressed by the Ravens ability to blitz and get pressure.

Pats D is very effective, but it's almost like watching the 'boys. They just execute better.

The SD players move around a lot. They're secondary is still pretty suspect, but they bring so much pressure, they're not as challenged as much.
 

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Smith22;1313476 said:
Watching the Chargers, Ravens and Pats, you NEVER know who is coming, guys are moving around constantly, making the OL and offense think. Hell, the offense normally had our guys running around trying to figure out who to cover.

Bottom line, we need another pass rushing threat, and we need an aggressive DC. Creativity would be nice as well.

God, I have been saying this all year on chat. Our inside LBs don't get sacks cause we never bring them. Stop bringing Roy and start bringing any LB from any spot.
 

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WoodysGirl;1313534 said:
Pats D is very effective, but it's almost like watching the 'boys. They just execute better.

The SD players move around a lot. They're secondary is still pretty suspect, but they bring so much pressure, they're not as challenged as much.

Pats are slower than the others, kinda of like us on defense. They are just smarter and better schemed.

The Chargers and Ravens have monster front 7 players, with the ability to cover and rush.
 

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Deep_Freeze;1313539 said:
God, I have been saying this all year on chat. Our inside LBs don't get sacks cause we never bring them. Stop bringing Roy and start bringing any LB from any spot.

We also rarely hide where the pressure is coming from. How often do we have a guy come free like in these games? Instead, we run around with our heads cut off figuring out who to cover.......
 

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Smith22;1313549 said:
We also rarely hide where the pressure is coming from. How often do we have a guy come free like in these games? Instead, we run around with our heads cut off figuring out who to cover.......

Well, my biggest problem with our D is we need to be more unpredictable blitzing LBs. This is the best attribute of the 3-4, yet we never used it.
 

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Forget about how they confuse other teams offenses, I'm watching defensive players defeat blockers and get sacks. Our guys get blocked and stop.
 

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Rack;1313767 said:
Forget about how they confuse other teams offenses, I'm watching defensive players defeat blockers and get sacks. Our guys get blocked and stop.

Agreed. The players are definitely at fault also, problem is, we can't fire them all, even if we want to.
 

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Dallas gave up fewer points to the Colts than the Ravens did yesterday. Dallas stepped up and stopped a critical Colts drive at the end of the game. The Ravens let the Colts hold the ball for most of the 4th quarter when it counted. Dallas also sacked Manning more and created more turnovers against the Colts.

Dallas gave up fewer points to the Seahakws than the Bears did today.

The Cowboys may not be able to create the pressure that other teams do, but they can do some stuff well enough to win games and have. They have also lost games, just like some of these other teams with top defenses. There is plenty of room for improvement for Dallas, but it is not as dire as some like to make it.
 
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