Poe: 4 Sacks in 402 snaps

[AbeBeta]

Because defensive tackles still need to pressure the QB

Very few guys that size put up big sack numbers. Very few.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Very few guys that size put up big sack numbers. Very few.

Thats what made Poe a top 15 pick once upon a time. The potential was there at his size to be an effective pass rusher

 

[AbeBeta]

Thats what made Poe a top 15 pick once upon a time. The potential was there at his size to be an effective pass rusher

Do you believe in unicorns too?

 

[InTheZone]

I couldn't care less if Poe gets 0 sacks. I just want to see the middle of the pocket not be a playground for every QB like we've seen over the last 20 years.

 

[America's Cowboy]

It's not 1995. DTs have to be able to penetrate.

That was Marinelli's philosophy. How did that work out for our Cowboys all the years he was here?

 

[quickccc]

DT are supposed to take blocks to allow LBs and DEs to get free. Sacks for them are rare.

Actually that should obtain to the 1-tech role types in a 4-3.
The 3 tech types (ala McCoy, Hill) are generally the better pass rushers and the ones seen(or relied upon) to regularly harassing the passer

They are the ones that are suppose to nullify gaps and lanes and occupy blocks or two, and allow LBs to roam.
i'm starting to expect that the Cowboys wanted Poe over Snack Harrison all along, because he offered more pass rush traits than Snack, while also being a big body run stuffer.

Of course he won't be Chris Jones type dynamic at rushing the passer despite a tremendous blend of size, power, and athleticism. and those pro bowl dayz at KC land seems miles years ago.

But if he can keep his weight in check and stay in shape, stay motivated, respond to coaching ..and stay healthy. He could be a key piece.
His signing, his prototype size/power along with new, better coaching and scheme, definitely has me encouraged about starting a new age with a different personnel.

 

[Rockport]

Poe has had kind of a strange career trajectory. He showed alot of promise as an inside rusher early in his career and it propelled him to two Pro Bowl births. However, his last two years in KC he was used primarily as a traditional two gap NT and minimized him as a pass rusher.

After leaving KC, he had meager production as a rusher in Atlanta and in his first year in Carolina. However last season, he tallied 4 sacks in 402 snaps. Im not sure what his advanced stats look like, but thats very good production for a defensive tackle. Particularly a 1T/NT.

The question is, is that an anomaly. Or did Poe get back into a groove as a rusher

Didn't take long. DT's don't get a lot of sacks. It's not their job.

 

[conner01]

Linebacker dont rush unless its a blitz. In a 4 man rush, your defensive tackles are part of your pass rush, and need to generate pressure

Pressure and collapse the pocket
Few get big sacks numbers but you need them to take away the space for a QB to step up in the pocket to avoid edge rushers

 

[jnday]

It's not 1995. DTs have to be able to penetrate.

If you remember, Dallas had DTs in the 90s that got to the QB quite often. If anything, it has been the trend in recent years for the DTs to containing the LOS instead of rushing the QB.

 

[dwmyers]

That was Marinelli's philosophy. How did that work out for our Cowboys all the years he was here?

It was also Tom Landry's and his defenses did more than ok against the run. It isn't the gap it's the scheme in some places.
The only two gapper in a Landry defense was the MLB.

 

[jnday]

Generally, you'd replace Poe on passing downs ... but it's good to have someone who can get to the passer when the opponent passes on rushing downs.

One of my problems with how we've put together our defense is that we've generally had players who are only good at one or the other. For example, Antwuan Woods is a strong run defender but fairly useless against the pass. Maliek Collins was fairly decent against the pass, but not very good against the run.

I can only dream about the impact that Leon Lett would have in today’s game. When he was in his prime, Leon was a beast. I mentioned Leon instead of Randy White because it would have been considered murder if White played today.

 

[jazzcat22]

DT are supposed to take blocks to allow LBs and DEs to get free. Sacks for them are rare.

Sacks are rare, Snacks are not.

 

[Cebrin]

Linebacker dont rush unless its a blitz. In a 4 man rush, your defensive tackles are part of your pass rush, and need to generate pressure

That's part of the story. They also push thr pocket back, and make the job of an edge rusher easier. Pressure is not always about sacks. It's being disruptive, and making the job of others around you easier. If you happen to get the sack first, cool.

 

[bayeslife]

In a 4 man rush, you defensive tackles are pass rushers. Not space eaters

um depending on gap assignments that’s precisely what they are

 

[nightrain]

I'm tired of seeing the curly shuffle on the Cowboys DL, guys getting out of position and getting easily pushed out of the running lane. DTs are best measured by QB pressures and opponents YPC between the tackles. The two man eaters the Cowboys just signed are a game changer for the defense.

 

[Kingofholland]

DT are supposed to take blocks to allow LBs and DEs to get free. Sacks for them are rare.

Yep especially playing nt in a 3-4. 4 sacks feels legendary, lol

 

[Loso86]

Poe has had kind of a strange career trajectory. He showed alot of promise as an inside rusher early in his career and it propelled him to two Pro Bowl births. However, his last two years in KC he was used primarily as a traditional two gap NT and minimized him as a pass rusher.

After leaving KC, he had meager production as a rusher in Atlanta and in his first year in Carolina. However last season, he tallied 4 sacks in 402 snaps. Im not sure what his 5advanced stats look like, but thats very good production for a defensive tackle. Particularly a 1T/NT.

The question is, is that an anomaly. Or did Poe get back into a groove as a rusher

Hes a dt I'm more concerned with getting a push up the middle and stopping the run in his gaps. We hot beef now in the middle

 

[America's Cowboy]

It was also Tom Landry's and his defenses did more than ok against the run. It isn't the gap it's the scheme in some places.
The only two gapper in a Landry defense was the MLB.

Are you saying Marinelli was running a Tom Landry style of defense or something different?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Poe has had kind of a strange career trajectory. He showed alot of promise as an inside rusher early in his career and it propelled him to two Pro Bowl births. However, his last two years in KC he was used primarily as a traditional two gap NT and minimized him as a pass rusher.

After leaving KC, he had meager production as a rusher in Atlanta and in his first year in Carolina. However last season, he tallied 4 sacks in 402 snaps. Im not sure what his advanced stats look like, but thats very good production for a defensive tackle. Particularly a 1T/NT.

The question is, is that an anomaly. Or did Poe get back into a groove as a rusher

Being a DT is 70% about stopping the run. I could care less if these guys get 3 sacks each.

 

[EPL0c0]

DT are supposed to take blocks to allow LBs and DEs to get free. Sacks for them are rare.

Jaylon & DLaw gotta be happy to see McCoy & Poe