Positions BP does not value with 1st round picks...

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OL
WR
FS
What does that leave us with?
QB- Don't need one
Rb - Have quality depth
TE - Will there be one high enough for us to draft?
FB - Never in the 1st round
DL - We could, but we have solid talent and depth already
Dbs - See DL

So, the obvious position that it looks like we will address will be LB. Bp collects them like they are worht gold. Bp knows one thing. IF you can create pressure, you don't need a top notch FS. The Qb won't have time to look that way. I've seen BP try to turn former Qbs into FS, so I really doubt he goes that way.
 

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With the #18 pick in the 2006 NFL draft, the Dallas Cowboys select...............................................................................................................MANNY LAWSON LB NC STATE!!!!!!!
*Crowd cheers---yahhhhhhhhhhhhh*
 

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demdcowboys#1 said:
With the #18 pick in the 2006 NFL draft, the Dallas Cowboys select...............................................................................................................MANNY LAWSON LB NC STATE!!!!!!!
*Crowd cheers---yahhhhhhhhhhhhh*
Could happen, but I keep reading he is still rated as a second rounder. Even after his impressive Senior Bowl play.
 

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cowboyfan4life_mark said:
I believe that Parcells will draft the BPA based on the team needs.


Or trade down...:D
Really? I think they will draft a player somewhere in the 1st 3 rounds.
 

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50cent said:
OL
WR
FS
What does that leave us with?
QB- Don't need one
Rb - Have quality depth
TE - Will there be one high enough for us to draft?
FB - Never in the 1st round
DL - We could, but we have solid talent and depth already
Dbs - See DL

So, the obvious position that it looks like we will address will be LB. Bp collects them like they are worht gold. Bp knows one thing. IF you can create pressure, you don't need a top notch FS. The Qb won't have time to look that way. I've seen BP try to turn former Qbs into FS, so I really doubt he goes that way.

as Corso would say..."not so fast my friend..."
I agree that LB will probably be a top draft priority, I don't agree that BP doesn't value round 1 OL. He commited to fixing the DL last draft and went all the way with it using 4 of our draft picks on it and both first rounders.
I think he values OL as not only one of the top offseason projects but one of the most important places in the game. He's an old school guy that values the trenches more than most. I wouldn't be surprised to see a round 1-3 OL taken. I'm not sure it'll be the best value pick in round 1 so maybe, maybe not depending on how the chips fall but I don't think you can completely rule it out. Remember, BP LOVED Jordan Gross a few years back. Gross didn't turn out to be the right pick during our turn but I think it was certainly considered.
My guess is that our first round picks are LB, OL, DE/LB.
So I agree that LB will be a top BP priority but I think OL is right there too. Not that it worked out but he did take two OL year before last on the first day. (against my wishes, I wanted N Vasher, boy was I wrong :rolleyes: )
I'm hoping for Carpenter and/or Lawson. (Carpenter in the first and Lawson in the second or vice versa would be a coup wouldn't it?) and I would like Mangold, Jean-Giles, Stovall, Ko Simpson, or Parham with the other pick.
 

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WR Mark Ingram in 1987; OG Eric Moore #1 in 1988 (followed up by Jumbo Elliot in the 2nd round that same year); C Brian Williams #1 in 1990; WR Terry Glenn in 1996; OG Randy Thomas in 1999.
 

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ravidubey said:
WR Mark Ingram in 1987; OG Eric Moore #1 in 1988 (followed up by Jumbo Elliot in the 2nd round that same year); C Brian Williams #1 in 1990; WR Terry Glenn in 1996; OG Randy Thomas in 1999.

A) He didn't run the show in any of those drafts except 1999

B) They were all PRE SALARY CAP except for 96 and 99 and that makes a HUGE difference.
 

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50cent said:
OL
WR
FS
What does that leave us with?
QB- Don't need one
Rb - Have quality depth
TE - Will there be one high enough for us to draft?
FB - Never in the 1st round
DL - We could, but we have solid talent and depth already
Dbs - See DL

So, the obvious position that it looks like we will address will be LB. Bp collects them like they are worht gold. Bp knows one thing. IF you can create pressure, you don't need a top notch FS. The Qb won't have time to look that way. I've seen BP try to turn former Qbs into FS, so I really doubt he goes that way.
I know it's been awhile since he got an OL, but he did say in a press conference that this year, was the first year since Jumbo Elliot he was actually thinking about it.
 

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ghst187 said:
I'm hoping for Carpenter and/or Lawson. (Carpenter in the first and Lawson in the second or vice versa would be a coup wouldn't it?) and I would like Mangold, Jean-Giles, Stovall, Ko Simpson, or Parham with the other pick.

:pray2: man this could be a dream come ture.
 

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wood28 said:
:pray2: man this could be a dream come ture.
You mean a team with Ware/Carpenter/Lawson in your front 7? I would throw an april Super Bowl party if that were to happen.
 

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The cornerstones of a championship team are:

QB - ours is aging, but still useable for another year
RB - we have two decent ones
WR - ours are aging, and we can really use an infusion of youth
LT - how well will Flo make it back???
DE - we have our edge-rusher in Ware.
CB - we have a decent set, can use some depth

I don't consider LB's, OG's, TE's, SS's, and C's as top picks. FB's and FS's shouldn't be considered on day 1. Kickers and Punters should never be drafted.

Get the best impact player we can. But I don't believe it's necessary to use a top pick on a LB. There are plenty of good ones out there, and we've found Pro Bowlers in the 3rd (Dat) and 4th (Dexter) rounds.

I say fix the OL ...
 

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Give me Bobby Carpenter in the 1st.

18 may seem a little high for him but I think he's the blood and guts field general that this defense needs. We've already got the freak speed rusher in Ware. Now we need to find that heart and soul ala Ray Lewis/Urlacher/Zack Thomas.

Ideal scenario we trade down and still snag him in the late 1st.
 

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Well if Parcells is stubborn enough to ignore the obvious, then he needs to go, Period. If he does not build a solid o-line, somehow, someway, then Parcells is doing this team no favors and I would be a better coach then Parcells is at that point.

Fact remains, Oline is our biggest problem. I dont care if he goes to mars to find the Olinemen we need. He better get em in Fa or the draft. I dont care who or what we take after the oline is in place. Its all gravy at that point. But untill the oline is rebuilt, we suck and Parcells is what he is. A coach of a sucky team, that makes him a sucky coach unless he can fix it.

I think he will. Again, I dont care how or where. You can draft all LBers for all care, so long as you make a wave in FAy on the Oline. You can sign all the LBers you want off the FA market, so long as the draft is all Olinmen. Like I say, mix and match, pull em out of your rear end, I dont care where they come from, but get the Olinemen we need to make the next step.
 

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Ashwynn said:
Well if Parcells is stubborn enough to ignore the obvious, then he needs to go, Period. If he does not build a solid o-line, somehow, someway, then Parcells is doing this team no favors and I would be a better coach then Parcells is at that point.

Fact remains, Oline is our biggest problem.

I think that BP does not ignore the OL in drafting - but he believes that certain positions are best filled later in the draft. We aren't looking for an LT -- and that is really the only position you should spend a mid range 1st on. Solid RTs are found in the 2nd and 3rd. And interior linemen rarely go that early -- Woody and Hutchinson (and Vernon Carey, the bust) are the only interior guys to go top 20 in recent memory.

A first for an RT, G, or C is simply overspending -- yes we have a problem on the line -- but you don't address problems with overreaction -- you address them intelligently. Unless we are talking about the best RT prospect in 10 years - our pick is just too high for that.
 

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abersonc said:
I think that BP does not ignore the OL in drafting - but he believes that certain positions are best filled later in the draft. We aren't looking for an LT -- and that is really the only position you should spend a mid range 1st on. Solid RTs are found in the 2nd and 3rd. And interior linemen rarely go that early -- Woody and Hutchinson (and Vernon Carey, the bust) are the only interior guys to go top 20 in recent memory.

A first for an RT, G, or C is simply overspending -- yes we have a problem on the line -- but you don't address problems with overreaction -- you address them intelligently. Unless we are talking about the best RT prospect in 10 years - our pick is just too high for that.

If thats the way you feel, trade down. We could still take a postion of need without reaching for a player. If we trade into the 30th pick, Guilles and McNeil would be ideal picks. With the extra 2nd we could take a OLB or another linemen.
 

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abersonc said:
I think that BP does not ignore the OL in drafting - but he believes that certain positions are best filled later in the draft. We aren't looking for an LT -- and that is really the only position you should spend a mid range 1st on. Solid RTs are found in the 2nd and 3rd. And interior linemen rarely go that early -- Woody and Hutchinson (and Vernon Carey, the bust) are the only interior guys to go top 20 in recent memory.

A first for an RT, G, or C is simply overspending -- yes we have a problem on the line -- but you don't address problems with overreaction -- you address them intelligently. Unless we are talking about the best RT prospect in 10 years - our pick is just too high for that.
last i checked vernon carey started 14 games at RT this year.
 
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