Possibility Scandrick misses only one game? New substance abuse policy coming soon?

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Or still all 4 games :(


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...esting-agreement-could-benefit-welker-gordon/

One change is that offseason use of amphetamines would move from the performance-enhancing substance policy to the substance-abuse policy. That would mean that Welker would switch from a first-time offender in the PED policy (which carries an automatic four-game suspension) to a first-time offender in the substance-abuse policy (which carries no suspension).

Another change is that the threshold to trigger a positive result on a marijuana test would rise. That would affect Gordon because his positive marijuana test was just barely above the NFL’s current threshold for a positive, which is significantly lower than the threshold for other organizations like the World Anti-Doping Agency.

If the NFL changes its policy and agrees to apply it retroactively to players who tested positive this year, Welker and Gordon would benefit. Which means that while the players’ union is stopping short of saying an agreement is very close, Welker and Gordon would be wise to call their union representatives and urge them to get the deal done, and get it done soon.


PS: I find it funny that Scandrick was upset at a report he had his drink spiked and said he popped a molly instead while Welker was upset at the report he popped a molly, instead saying his drink may have been spiked.
 

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That would be a refreshingly smart series of changes to the policy, and even smarter to reduce current suspensions as a result. Let's hope.
 

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Interesting news. That would be a huge break for the Browns if they got Gordon back this season.
 

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Gordon, Welker Bans Could Be Reduced
September 4th at 7:26pm CST by Dallas Robinson
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We learned earlier today that the while the league and the NFLPA have intensified talks regarding implementing HGH testing and overhauling the current drug policy, union president Eric Winston has cautioned that an agreement isn’t quite ready yet. If negotiations proceed quickly, two players affected by the policy — Josh Gordon and Wes Welker — might be able to return to the field soon, reports Mike Florio on NBC (link via Michael David Smith of Pro Football Talk).
http://www.profootballrumors.com/gordon-welker-bans-reduced/
Per Florio, one alteration to the new policy would raise the THC threshold for triggering marijuana-related bans; Gordon, of course, was suspended for the 2014 season after his sample tested barely over the THC limit. Another change to the policy would transfer amphetamine use from the performance-enhancing umbrella to the substance-abuse realm. A first-time PED offense triggers an automatic four-game ban, while a substance-abuse incident does not.

If the proposed rule changes grandfathered in already-suspended players, Gordon, Welker, and others that are currently facing bans could return to action. In fact, Florio noted that if the deal between the NFL and the union gets done in the next few days (which is unlikely), the two star receivers could potentially play on Sunday. Welker, of course, might still be limited by his latest concussion, but nevertheless, it would be a stunning reversal of fortunes for the Broncos, Browns, and other teams who have lost key players to drug suspensions.

Meanwhile, Albert Breer of the NFL Network hears (Twitter link) that retroactive penalty changes aren’t what’s holding up discussions of a new deal — rather, DUI policy is the “[number one] hangup” in negotiations. We heard last week that commissioner Roger Goodell wants a mandatory de-activation and two-game suspension for DUI offenders, a stance the NFLPA has fought. Breer adds that Sunday is being treated as a “soft deadline” for talks, as union representatives probably don’t want negotiations dragging into the season.
 

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Why aren't they mentioning Scandrick in these articles? Would he not be eligible, or he's just not popular enough?
 

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Why would he miss any games? If they retroactively change the rules and standards for this type of drug use, then he shouldn't be suspended at all from what I can tell. Welker, either. Unless they have previous failed tests and are already in the drug program.
 

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I agree. Would likely be affective going forward.

I'm not sure. I think there is a chance even if it is a slim one that they implement it retroactively. The NFLPA may ask for that in exchange for the HGH testing. A little give and take.
 

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Why aren't they mentioning Scandrick in these articles? Would he not be eligible, or he's just not popular enough?

Clarence Hill mentioned it in a tweet. But, maybe it's a good thing that he's not mentioned. Being a Cowboy might be a detriment to getting a deal done. lol

 

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Why aren't they mentioning Scandrick in these articles? Would he not be eligible, or he's just not popular enough?

scandrick is eligible, I am not sure about Jakar Hamilton though> its scandricks first offense if deal goes through, again the holdup is Goodell on DUI,
 

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I'm not sure. I think there is a chance even if it is a slim one that they implement it retroactively. The NFLPA may ask for that in exchange for the HGH testing. A little give and take.

That would be the first positive break for this team in forever. One can hope!
 

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scandrick is eligible, I am not sure about Jakar Hamilton though> its scandricks first offense if deal goes through, again the holdup is Goodell on DUI,

I could be wrong but I thought I heard he was in the substance abuse program already. So you may be right about Hamilton. If they do this I think its a good idea
 

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Why would he miss any games? If they retroactively change the rules and standards for this type of drug use, then he shouldn't be suspended at all from what I can tell. Welker, either. Unless they have previous failed tests and are already in the drug program.

Because it's almost impossible that a deal gets done prior to Sunday and a decision on currently suspended players is decided in time for him to play. Even if a decision is made tomorrow morning, Scandrick would still be a bit behind in preparation
 

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Because it's almost impossible that a deal gets done prior to Sunday and a decision on currently suspended players is decided in time for him to play. Even if a decision is made tomorrow morning, Scandrick would still be a bit behind in preparation

I meant due to suspension. Everything you said are legitimate reasons for him to miss the opening game.
 

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If the Boys benefit its pay back for the Sam signing. Maybe Jones can haggle for Scandrick and Brent both getting no suspensions.
 

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...esting-agreement-could-benefit-welker-gordon/

A new drug testing agreement could benefit Welker, Gordon
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 4, 2014, 7:47 PM EDT

Broncos receiver Wes Welker is suspended for the first four games of the season, and Browns receiver Josh Gordonis suspended for the entire season. Both players have already appealed, and lost.

And yet there’s a chance that both players could still see their suspensions reduced.

As Mike Florio reported on NBC, Welker, Gordon and potentially other players in the midst of suspensions could benefit from a new drug testing policy that the owners and players could agree upon soon.

The new policy that may be forthcoming has received attention primarily because it would include testing for human growth hormone, which has never before been tested in the NFL. But the policy would also have some other changes.

One change is that offseason use of amphetamines would move from the performance-enhancing substance policy to the substance-abuse policy. That would mean that Welker would switch from a first-time offender in the PED policy (which carries an automatic four-game suspension) to a first-time offender in the substance-abuse policy (which carries no suspension).

Another change is that the threshold to trigger a positive result on a marijuana test would rise. That would affect Gordon because his positive marijuana test was just barely above the NFL’s current threshold for a positive, which is significantly lower than the threshold for other organizations like the World Anti-Doping Agency.

If the NFL changes its policy and agrees to apply it retroactively to players who tested positive this year, Welker and Gordon would benefit. Which means that while the players’ union is stopping short of saying an agreement is very close, Welker and Gordon would be wise to call their union representatives and urge them to get the deal done, and get it done soon.
 
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