Possible additions for our D

[RustyBourneHorse]

Well, it's clear to me that Jerry has no desire to add ET to this roster. However, our D cannot continue the way they play and expect to be successful. So, using https://nfltraderumors.co/top-25-2020-nfl-free-agents-list/, I have found some possible players that may be useful for us to bring in. I know some of you may not agree with this list, but I see the players I list here as potentially better than what we've currently got....not that that's hard to accomplish atm.

1. S Damarious Randall - here are his stats. He's previously played with McCarthy. Also, he's 28. Not a bad age for a safety. I think we could use him.
   Postseason
   Year Team GP GS Tackles Interceptions Fumbles
   Total Solo Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF FR
   2015 GB 15 9 58 53 5 0.0 0 14 3 47 15.7 43 1 0 0
   2016 GB 10 9 39 35 4 0.0 0 9 3 91 30.3 44 0 0 0
   2017 GB 14 12 47 38 9 0.0 0 9 4 35 8.8 21 1 0 0
   2018 CLE 15 15 85 72 13 0.0 0 9 4 59 14.8 50 0 0 0
   2019 CLE 11 11 61 45 16 2.5 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
   Total 65 56 290 243 47 2.5 0 47 14 232 16.6 50 2 0 0
   Source: NFL.com
   Year Team GP GS Tackles Interceptions Fumbles
   Total Solo Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF FR
   2015 GB 2 2 11 7 4 0.0 0 2 1 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
   2016 GB 3 1 12 11 1 0.0 0 3 1 78 78.0 78 0 0 0
   Total 5 3 23 18 5 0.0 0 5 2 78 39.0 78 0 0 0
2. LB Nigel Bradham - He's 31, so he's a bit up there. But hey, we need LB help. I think Bradham could be helpful to us.
   Year Team Games Tackles Fumbles Interceptions
   G GS Comb Total Ast Sack FF FR Yds TD Int Yds Avg Lng TD PD
   2012 BUF 16 11 57 37 20 0.0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
   2013 BUF 16 2 51 29 22 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
   2014 BUF 14 14 104 66 38 2.5 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 7
   2015 BUF 11 11 59 42 17 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3
   2016 PHI 16 16 102 69 33 2.0 2 1 0 0 1 28 28 28 0 5
   2017 PHI 15 15 88 61 27 1.0 1 1 37 1 0 0 0 0 0 8
   2018 PHI 15 15 97 67 30 2.0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4
   2019 PHI 12 12 61 32 29 0.0 0 1 48 1 1 22 22 22 0 5
   Career 115 96 619 403 216 8.5 5 5 85 2 3 50 16.7 28 0 34
3. DT Marcell Dareus - Former 3rd overall draft pick and a 1 tech DT. We lost Gerald McCoy early to his injury. Poe has been useless. Dareus is 6'3" and 331 LB.
   Year Team GP COMB TOTAL AST SACK FF FR FR YDS INT IR YDS AVG IR LNG TD PD STF STF YDS KB
   2011 BUF 16 43 32 11 5.5 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 4 8 0
   2012 BUF 16 39 26 13 5.5 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 1 3 1
   2013 BUF 16 71 46 25 7.5 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 2 8 0
   2014 BUF 15 48 35 13 10.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 4 5 0
   2015 BUF 15 51 38 13 2.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 6 0
   2016 BUF 8 39 24 15 3.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 4 0
   2017 BUF 5 8 4 4 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
   2017 JAX 9 21 19 2 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
   2018 JAX 15 32 23 9 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 5 0
   2019 JAX 6 13 8 5 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 0
   Career[33] 121 365 255 110 37.5 3 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 15 21 41 1

These are 3 examples of players that I've found on the link I saw that may be able to help our D, and I hope Jerry will look into them.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

What's the point?
None of the players mentioned, or anybody else, is some Earl Thomas, et al in his prime, or even close to it. At best they are marginally better than what we have.

Adding more average talent to an already average talent defense isn't going to help. The players we have have to get better, or be replaced in the draft, or in free agency NEXT year, IF another Jamal Adams or such is available, and the Cowboys can afford him...

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

What's the point?
None of the players mentioned, or anybody else, is some Earl Thomas, et al in his prime, or even close to it. At best they are marginally better than what we have.

Adding more average talent to an already average talent defense isn't going to help. The players we have have to get better, or be replaced in the draft, or in free agency NEXT year, IF another Jamal Adams or such is available, and the Cowboys can afford him...

I know they're marginally better, but hey, my thinking is at least we have to try.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

I know they're marginally better, but hey, my thinking is at least we have to try.

So get people who had zero time with the Cowboys, to replace people who've had camp and 3 games? Not for me, though I understand your point, it's a valid course of action. But to me it seems like panicking after 3 games, we knew this team would take time to gel (if it ever does of course, no guarantee there). 3 games is not enough, would have helped if we'd not lost McCoy, Lee, Jarwin and so forth so early in the year.

That'd just be like starting over with game one, again. Imho it's better to ride this out for a few more games, if we get to like 1-6 or such, then get new players and they do better, that would just knock us down in the draft position. This team needs top talent, like Lamb-level talent, in the draft, if we can't get to the point of being legit SB contenders with who we have, I'd rather just go for the better draft position...

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

So get people who had zero time with the Cowboys, to replace people who've had camp and 3 games? Not for me, though I understand your point, it's a valid course of action. But to me it seems like panicking after 3 games, we knew this team would take time to gel (if it ever does of course, no guarantee there). 3 games is not enough, would have helped if we'd not lost McCoy, Lee, Jarwin and so forth so early in the year.

That'd just be like starting over with game one, again. Imho it's better to ride this out for a few more games, if we get to like 1-6 or such, then get new players and they do better, that would just knock us down in the draft position. This team needs top talent, like Lamb-level talent, in the draft, if we can't get to the point of being legit SB contenders with who we have, I'd rather just go for the better draft position...

Fair point. Let's see how everyone develops. I know this team needs time to gel, and I was expecting that. I just sort of saw these players as band aids to help our defence a bit more. The thing is, I fully expect us to make the playoffs. I think we'll win our division. The problem is, we'll get humiliated once we get to the playoffs with this D unless it improves. That's why I was wanting a bandaid for our secondary for the rest of the season.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Our secondary folk may not be all that talented, but with the non-existent pass rush (except for Smith) it's hard to tell. And there's no way to tell, but I suspect if Awuzie had been in there Lockett probably wouldn't have done quite so well, Awuzie is more talented, at least some, and could direct the defense better.

People were all concerned about Wilson's running, but he mostly didn't, my gosh how long did he stand there on one late game play without hardly moving? 15 seconds? In other games it was noted the opposing quarterback threw quickly, and that was used as the reason there was no pass rush, but that wasn't the case with Wilson time after time.

Didn't get to see all the game, was on vacation, but did Carr play at all? He's a 12 year vet, played cornerback almost all that time, surely he can read offensive formations better than some rookie like Robertson....

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Our secondary folk may not be all that talented, but with the non-existent pass rush (except for Smith) it's hard to tell. And there's no way to tell, but I suspect if Awuzie had been in there Lockett probably wouldn't have done quite so well, Awuzie is more talented, at least some, and could direct the defense better.

People were all concerned about Wilson's running, but he mostly didn't, my gosh how long did he stand there on one late game play without hardly moving? 15 seconds? In other games it was noted the opposing quarterback threw quickly, and that was used as the reason there was no pass rush, but that wasn't the case with Wilson time after time.

Didn't get to see all the game, was on vacation, but did Carr play at all? He's a 12 year vet, played cornerback almost all that time, surely he can read offensive formations better than some rookie like Robertson....

That's fair, and Awuzie could have helped. He does have, I believe, our only interception. I think Carr played a little bit.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

That's fair, and Awuzie could have helped. He does have, I believe, our only interception. I think Carr played a little bit.

And I know, Carr's almost certainly slower than the rookies, he's probably there to be a backup, never was intended to be a starter...

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

And I know, Carr's almost certainly slower than the rookies, he's probably there to be a backup, never was intended to be a starter...

Agreed, and he's a pretty good veteran presence to have around

 

[Future]

Randall would be pretty redundant with Brandon Carr, but I wouldn't mind him as depth.

I'm actually surprised that Bradham is still a FA, but he's pretty terrible against the pass.

Dareus sucks.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Randall would be pretty redundant with Brandon Carr, but I wouldn't mind him as depth.

I'm actually surprised that Bradham is still a FA, but he's pretty terrible against the pass.

Dareus sucks.

We could use depth with Randall, and Bradham could at least help us with the run D.

 

[Future]

We could use depth with Randall, and Bradham could at least help us with the run D.

Depth isn't a problem, especially once Chido and Brown are back.

The run D has mostly been fine.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Depth isn't a problem, especially once Chido and Brown are back.

The run D has mostly been fine.

Well, it will need to be mostly fine or better Sunday given how much Cleveland likes to run the ball.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Depth isn't a problem, especially once Chido and Brown are back.

The run D has mostly been fine.

Cowboys 27th in the league in run defense. give up an average of 127 a game. Can't say that's "mostly" fine...

 

[Future]

Cowboys 27th in the league in run defense. give up an average of 127 a game. Can't say that's "mostly" fine...

Total yards doesn't matter. They're T-7 in ypc.

So yes, mostly fine.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Total yards doesn't matter. They're T-7 in ypc.

So yes, mostly fine.

Whether you run for a high ypc and get 127 yards or run for a low ypc and get 127 yards, that's still too many yards, Steelers are giving up 54 yards a game, now I don't expect Dallas to get to that, they don't have the DTs for it, but 100 a game is considered average, need to get to better than that before I'd say the run defense is "mostly" fine..

 

[Future]

Whether you run for a high ypc and get 127 yards or run for a low ypc and get 127 yards, that's still too many yards, Steelers are giving up 54 yards a game, now I don't expect Dallas to get to that, they don't have the DTs for it, but 100 a game is considered average, need to get to better than that before I'd say the run defense is "mostly" fine..

Total yards doesn't matter because it is just a product of game score and third down %. Both of those are dictated by the passing game.

If Dallas could get stops on third down - where teams throw - the rushing totals would be significantly better. We saw it over and over again against LAR and SEA

 

[kskboys]

Total yards doesn't matter because it is just a product of game score and third down %. Both of those are dictated by the passing game.

If Dallas could get stops on third down - where teams throw - the rushing totals would be significantly better. We saw it over and over again against LAR and SEA

Yeah, you're right, doesn't matter at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kskboys]

Total yards doesn't matter. They're T-7 in ypc.

So yes, mostly fine.

How'd that turn out for you?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[charron]

They should be looking at all these guys. I know they have these discussions but i'd like to hear the reasoning behind staying put with whom we have. Is it age or cost? Nothing wrong with working out a few guys, it would send a message even if we do not sign them. Don't let these guys get complacent with losing, it is not ok.