Possible new defensive coordinator if Jerry fires Eberflus

I rather elevate a guy on staff to the DC position right now. Sorenson or whitecotton.
 
Hawkeye0202 said:
Remember this is my OP?

Note II: I'm not sure if you heard, but Garrett was upset after losing on Sunday, despite having 5 sacks. Say he's tired of losing. (Could he demand a trade after the season..... something to keep an eye on)


I'm not the only one keeping an eye on Garrett's situation in Cleveland. It just makes sense... they are in the process of another rebuild and still don't have a legit QB. Garrett doesn't have 3-4 years left playing at the current level.


https://www.si.com/nfl/why-time-for-the-browns-consider-trading-myles-garrett


Why It Might Be Time for the Browns to Consider Trading Myles Garrett​

Cleveland could turbocharge its rebuild by dealing the veteran defensive end. Plus, Tucker Kraft’s ascendance for the Packers and more from around the league.

Albert Breer | 11 Hours Ago​



A potential trade is about what’s best for the Browns, the timeline for their rebuild and Garrett’s career timeline (just to be clear, the team has been steadfast in saying it won’t trade him).

So, now is the time to lean into their strategy. For argument’s sake, let’s say the Browns could get two first-round picks, a 2026 second-round pick and a ’27 third-round pick for Garrett. In that scenario, Cleveland would have three first-round picks and two second-rounders in ’26, and a total of 10 picks in the first five rounds, and two first-rounders and five picks in the first three rounds of the ’27 draft.

Add that to the core the Browns are starting to build with the 2025 class, and they’re looking at an opportunity to be firing on all cylinders by ’27 or ’28
So, in the midst of a lost season, this would be the time to make the move. Garrett’s still at the top of his game. There’d be a big market for him, with a contract that’s relatively manageable with his bonus money paid out (his base salary for the rest of the year is at the veteran minimum, and he’s due $73.2 million over the next two years). Yes, there’d be a cap acceleration that’d be tough to swallow (around $45 million) for Cleveland, but if there’s a time to take that sort of medicine, I’d argue that it’s probably now.
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Why would he go from Browns to the NFC equivalent? Garrett's getting paid, and he's got a NTC, there's a lot more attractive locations that'll give him what he wants....a ring.

The one aspect about Micah, that we somewhat overlook, is that he did ask/suggest that Jerry sort out his contract early and then build his Defense around it......Jerry baulked probably at the idea of having to commit to putting a competitive Defense AND PAY FOR THAT ELITE PLAYER.....in Jerry World (especially on Defense) it's either/or.
 
Jerry is gonna bring eberflus back. Hes gonna use the excuse of not wanting to change coordinators again for a 4th year. Book it. 2026 will be another wasted season.
 
The defense is bad because of 1 person - Jerry Jones. Folks were so gung-ho about getting rid of Parsons that you never paused and thought about what that would do to the defense. Like ripping out the motor of a car and wondering why the damn thing won't run. Much of what Dallas did in the front was predicated by the presence of a Parsons who commanded those double teams. Which made life easier for the Sam Williams of the world to feast as well because while guys like that have talent they are not good enough to do it without that big presence taking on those doubles. The Pass rush also meant more opportunities to play badly thrown balls that made the secondary and LB-ing guys look good. It also meant playing more man and less zone.

Now is this to say that Parsons would fix everything - probably not. But you can't ignore that where this team struggled against the run it held up reasonably well against the pass. Well now you have a team that does not play the run well nor the pass. So the GM basically got rid of a guy, and the defense got worse not better.

Now folks are clamoring for Myles Garrett to come save this thing. The same Myles Garrett who has a no trade clause in his contract. Pray tell, why the hell would he want to come here to be a part of this circus as opposed to go to Philly or some other team that gives him a shot at a SB?

Lastly, I get the appeal of wanting to fire Eberflus. It's an easy thing to do and it will make some of you feel better temporarily. But no one is going to be able to come in and fix anything this season. The defense is fundamentally broken and that is that. You need an entire rebuild starting with the defensive line, LB-ers and secondary. To that effect you will need to stockpile picks and do it. Hell fire Eberfuls after the last game and get a different DC and then empower that guy to actually implement what he wants with the talent that he needs. Not bargain basement shopping and handing the DC guys who are coming off catastrophic injuries or dudes who are long in the tooth. And if you struggle at drafting defense for crying out loud consult some of the defensive minded coaches about it.
 
Zman5 said:
Eberflus is Rob Ryan guy. He came to the Cowboys with Ryan from Cleveland when Ryan was hired as our DC.
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No hes not. He's literally the opposite of Ryan. He runs the stupid outdated Tampa 2/Maranelli defense.
 
805BoysInBlue said:
Jerry is gonna bring eberflus back. Hes gonna use the excuse of not wanting to change coordinators again for a 4th year. Book it. 2026 will be another wasted season.
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Personally I don't care if you keep or fire Eberflus. Nothing will change so long as you draft poorly on defense and make moves right before the season that wrecks your defense.
 
CowboyoWales said:
Why would he go from Browns to the NFC equivalent? Garrett's getting paid, and he's got a NTC, there's a lot more attractive locations that'll give him what he wants....a ring.

The one aspect about Micah, that we somewhat overlook, is that he did ask/suggest that Jerry sort out his contract early and then build his Defense around it......Jerry baulked probably at the idea of having to commit to putting a competitive Defense AND PAY FOR THAT ELITE PLAYER.....in Jerry World (especially on Defense) it's either/or.
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Three teams, I think, would go hard after him .........Commanders, Eagles and Bills

***Per several nuggets, the Commanders were prepared to go all out for a trade before he changed his mind and signed the current extension. Their owner, Harris, had given the green light. Word is, Harris and Magic Johnson have instructed their people to do whatever it takes to win a Super Bowl while Daniel is on his rookie contract.

***Eagles were also a stronger contender for a trade but I don't know if Howie can pull it coz of Garrett's contract. Jalen Carter needs a new deal next year

***Bills are desperately trying to find an elite defensive playmaker every year to help Josh Allen win a Super Bowl.

All three teams would easily give the Browns two 1st round picks
 
Majic said:
And what's the first thing he does. Get bigger guys in and switch to a 3-4 base. In a few months he has one of the best DEF's
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Maybe Schotty will take a correspondence course this offseason on how to be a grown up HC.
 
Hawkeye0202 said:
Three teams, I think, would go hard after him .........Commanders, Eagles and Bills

***Per several nuggets, the Commanders were prepared to go all out for a trade before he changed his mind and signed the current extension. Their owner, Harris, had given the green light. Word is, Harris and Magic Johnson have instructed their people to do whatever it takes to win a Super Bowl while Daniel is on his rookie contract.

***Eagles were also a stronger contender for a trade but I don't know if Howie can pull it coz of Garrett's contract. Jalen Carter needs a new deal next year

***Bills are desperately trying to find an elite defensive playmaker every year to help Josh Allen win a Super Bowl.

All three teams would easily give the Browns two 1st round picks
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Also that Not Trade Clause he has pretty much guarantees that he won't be coming to the Cowboys. No one who wants to win a SB is looking at Dallas as a destination to do that.
 
Hawkeye0202 said:
It's early, but here are 6 names I can see Jerry considering .......... familiarity and/or strong postseason experience are huge factors IMO.

*** Al Harris.....Defensive passing coordinator/back, Bears... no defensive coordinator experience.

***Brian Flores...Vikings defensive coordinator. Contract expires at the end of the season. He will likely resign with the Vikes IMO. But their season could go south coz they have serious QB issues after IRing Wentz.

Brian Flores' defensive scheme is a complex, aggressive, and versatile system that blends multiple philosophies to confuse offenses, frequently employing heavy blitzes and pressure from unusual alignments. Key elements include "heavy" fronts with extra rushers (six or seven-man pressure), disguised coverage looks (like showing a blitz but dropping players into coverage), and a heavy usage of sub-packages, especially with multiple safeties on the field

***Wink Martindale....Defensive coordinator, Michigan ( one GM called him a blitzing madman). Similar to the former late Eagle DC, Jim Johnson.

Wink Martindale's defensive scheme is known for its aggressive, blitz-heavy approach with heavy use of pre-snap disguise and man coverage. Key features include creating pressure through creative blitz packages, often by overloading one side of the line, and playing a high percentage of man-to-man coverage in the secondary. This requires defensive backs to be able to hold up against receivers one-on-one for extended periods, with the scheme creating a "give and take" where pressure is prioritized over pass coverage, but coverage must be solid when pressure doesn't get there quickly

***Ron Rivera......General Manager with the California Bears. He is a Jim Johnson disciple but runs a zone-based scheme, similar to Eberflus
Ron Rivera's defensive scheme is primarily a zone-based scheme that relies on a four-man front, though he has also used a 3-4 alignment and incorporates elements of man-to-man coverage. It typically features a four-lineman rush with seven players dropping into coverage, with Cover 3 and Quarters zone being frequently used. The scheme prioritizes sound fundamental play and a dominant defensive line, but can be vulnerable to explosive plays due to its reliance on zone looks


*** Leslie Frazier....Seahawks assistant head coach. Tony Dungy disciple who runs a variation of Tampa 2
Leslie Frazier's defensive scheme is primarily a nickel-heavy system that relies on a strong front four to generate pressure, while the back seven plays mostly zone coverage, though it has the ability to blitz and play man. Key elements include utilizing five or more defensive backs frequently, particularly a versatile slot corner, and a tendency for aggressive pre-snap looks and post-snap adjustments (audibles and checks)

*** Jim Schwartz...Browns' defensive coordinator. He may or may not be available, but he has a history of quickly turning around bad defenses, similar to Wade Phillips.

Jim Schwartz's defensive scheme is a traditional 4-3 base with a "wide-9" alignment that uses aggressive, man-heavy coverage and aims to create pressure with its front seven. Key elements include using stunts and twists from the defensive line, playing aggressive man-to-man coverage in the secondary, and a focus on stopping the run. This approach is designed to be relatively simple pre-snap to confuse offenses and allows his elite defensive linemen to create pressure and his defensive backs to play tightly on receivers

Jim Schwartz is a highly regarded defensive coordinator and was very effective with the Eagles. Eagles consistently had a top-5 run defense and pass rush that consistently overachieved relative to injuries they had at defensive tackle\

Note; He signed with the Browns before 2023 but nothing was released about his contract. Generally speaking, the standard is that coordinators usually sign 3-year deals while head coaches sign 5. This could mean he's in the final year of his contract. He could also be fired along with the head coach......The Browns are headed for another top 5 draft pick.

Note II: Not sure if you heard but Garrett was ticked off after losing Sunday, although he had 5 sacks. Say he's tired of losing. (Could he demand a trade after the season..... something to keep an eye on)



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Give me Al Harris of Schwartz, or, here's an idea that Jerry's mind simply can't comprehend. Let Schotty choose the DC.
 
Johannes44 said:
Personally I don't care if you keep or fire Eberflus. Nothing will change so long as you draft poorly on defense and make moves right before the season that wrecks your defense.
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There is actually some truth here IMO.....any defensive coordinator can look pretty good if you give him four 1st and two 2nd round new defensive players, including Eberflus. If we are being honest, he is now working with at least 6-7 players who are not starting material.
 
I wrote this in another thread. I'm a Buckeyes fan and they have Mike Patricia as their DC. They use combination coverages, disguise their defense, adjust during the game, etc. Its almost comical how much better coached a college team looks than the Cowboys.

Dallas certainly has a talent issue but Eberflus is taking a bad defense and making it look like a worst of all time defense. The one game he started playing man it looked better and then he immediately went back on it. His base scheme is basically the worst thing you could do with this current group.
 
LOL. The defense is completely undermanned. The lack of talent is glaring and there is nothing coaching will do at this point. They need help on the field.
 
Johannes44 said:
Also that Not Trade Clause he has pretty much guarantees that he won't be coming to the Cowboys. No one who wants to win a SB is looking at Dallas as a destination to do that.
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Actually....I see it a bit differently. All coordinators certainly wanna win a Super Bowl but most want their own team (as head coach ) also. IMO, Dallas is a very attractive option for any defensive coordinator for several reasons

*6, maybe 7 high draft picks to build his defense
* plenty of cap space to bring in a couple of free agents
* top 5 offense
* Dak as an established top 10 QB
* could improve the D rankings from the bottom to the middle within 1-2 years, improving his chances for HC consideration.
 
Eberflus isn’t going anywhere. Has a relationship with the jones and they like him, he’s gonna get another year.

Not saying he should but
 
Why do fans still think that someone who is a good DC will come to Dallas for the same position?

Those DCs are in their positions now to be HCs in the future. The next DC will be either a current position coach, failing HC or DC from another team, or a college coach.
 
RustyBourneHorse said:
Give me Al Harris of Schwartz, or, here's an idea that Jerry's mind simply can't comprehend. Let Schotty choose the DC.
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Rusty ...I would stand on the table, Schwartz. He has had an immediate impact/improvement at every stop, according to the little digging and research I did. My only concern is that he can be a jerk....... tends to rub some the wrong or not everyone's cup of tea, similar to Rex Ryan.
 
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