Post Week 14 (2025): QB Combined Statistical Ranking

[SteveTheCowboy]

I'm glad we finally have a thread where we come together and appreciate and respect each other's opinion on things. Well done Zone!

 

[Swagger]

Is Dak in the MVP conversation?

 

[DFWJC]

If only we had a real QB like Patrick Mahomes, who carried his team to a 6-8 record before getting hurt.

And 7 straight years of mostly deep playoff runs or SBs?
That guy?

Anyway, all this annual excercise is for is to see who is mostly playing the best this year and will end up MVP.

I say it every week.
It’s not about who is the best QB. Just who is playing the best this year so far on average.

That’s all

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

And 7 straight years of mostly deep playoff runs or SBs?
That guy?

Anyway, all this annual excercise is for is to see who is mostly playing the best this year and will end up MVP.

I say it every week.
It’s not about who is the best QB. Just who is playing the best this year so far on average.

That’s all

 

[Chasing6]

If only we had a real QB like Patrick Mahomes, who carried his team to a 6-8 record before getting hurt.

When his D gives up 19 points a game.

 

[Chasing6]

And 7 straight years of mostly deep playoff runs or SBs?
That guy?

Anyway, all this annual excercise is for is to see who is mostly playing the best this year and will end up MVP.

I say it every week.
It’s not about who is the best QB. Just who is playing the best this year so far on average.

That’s all

Let me give you a hint. The QB that wins will have a great Defense.

 

[DFWJC]

Let me give you a hint. The QB that wins will have a great Defense.

Allen won it last year and his defense ranked 17th

But really, if you dont like these threads or don’t think theres any correlation to who is playing well, I’m not sure why you post in the thread.

Its fine. Just ignore the threads. No harm, no foul

 

[Chasing6]

Allen won it last year and his defense ranked 17th

But really, if you dont like these threads or don’t think theres any correlation to who is playing well, I’m not sure why you post in the thread.

Its fine. Just ignore the threads. No harm, no foul

I stand by my comment.

 

[DFWJC]

I stand by my comment.

So 17th ranked defense equal dominant, elite defense. Got it

 

[America's Cowboy]

So 17th ranked defense equal dominant, elite defense. Got it

If you truly believe Dak is a problem, then YOU AND THOSE WHO THINK LIKE YOU ARE THE PROBLEM around here.

 

[DFWJC]

If you truly believe Dak is a problem, then YOU AND THOSE WHO THINK LIKE YOU ARE THE PROBLEM around here.

Where did I ever say that?

Stop making this thread about Dak.
It is not, nor ever has been. Never

If anything, these threads make Dak look good, though that's not the point.

That guy I responded to just keeps saying to be at the top of this list you have to have a dominant defense... which is not true.

 

[FVSTONE]

So you watched the Cowboys this season and of all the things that have gone wrong, you think the problem is the QB?

I know a lot of posters on this forum treat Dak as if he stole their lunch money when they were kids. But on a list of 100 issues with the Dallas Cowboys, Dak would be entry 101.

Prescott has a real bad habit of starting SLOW. Unfortunately, it takes him about a quarter or two to get his bearings, and once that happens the Boys are down by two or three scores.

 

[RonnieT24]

Prescott has a real bad habit of starting SLOW. Unfortunately, it takes him about a quarter or two to get his bearings, and once that happens the Boys are down by two or three scores.

Haven't the Cowboys scored on their 2nd possession like the last three games in a row? I'm gonna go look it up but I think that's the case.

 

[RonnieT24]

Haven't the Cowboys scored on their 2nd possession like the last three games in a row? I'm gonna go look it up but I think that's the case.

Here's my report..

Against KC - Dak's arm is hit while throwing on the first possession and the ball is picked. The next three possessions go TD, FG, TD.
Against Detroit - FG, punt FG on the first three possessions. Then Ferguson fumbled away the 4th possession at the Detroit 47.
Against Minny - TD, punt, TD, missed FG.

So that's 12 possessions.. 4 TD, 3 F, 2 turnovers, 2 punts and 1 missed FG.

I'm not seeing slow starts here. Unless you consider scoring on 3/4 of your possessions "slow."

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Prescott has a real bad habit of starting SLOW. Unfortunately, it takes him about a quarter or two to get his bearings, and once that happens the Boys are down by two or three scores.

This made me think and look back on how slow Dak and the offense really has started in losses/ties this year:

24-20 at Philly: Dallas led 7-0 in the 1st quarter and 14-7 in the second.
31-14 at Chicago: Dallas fell behind 14-3 in the first. Slow start correct.
40-40 vs. Green Bay: First quarter was slow but Dallas did lead 16-13 at halftime.
30-27 at Carolina: Dallas led 10-3 in the second and led 17-13 at halftime.
44-24 at Denver: Dallas fell behind 14-3 in the first. Another slow start.
27-17 vs. Arizona: Slow start again. Down 10-0 early.
44-30 at Detroit: Slow start again. Down 10-3 after the first and 20-9 at halftime.
34-26 vs. Minnesota: Dallas led 7-0 early, and 14-7 in the second quarter.

So, in the seven losses and one tie, the offense started slow four times and started fast four times.

Regardless, it's not how you start, it's how you finish. Dallas has lost or tied games this year scoring 40, 27, 30, and 26 points. A competent defense could have this team sitting on a 10-4 record right now.

 

[RonnieT24]

This made me think and look back on how slow Dak and the offense really has started in losses/ties this year:

24-20 at Philly: Dallas led 7-0 in the 1st quarter and 14-7 in the second.
31-14 at Chicago: Dallas fell behind 14-3 in the first. Slow start correct.
40-40 vs. Green Bay: First quarter was slow but Dallas did lead 16-13 at halftime.
30-27 at Carolina: Dallas led 10-3 in the second and led 17-13 at halftime.
44-24 at Denver: Dallas fell behind 14-3 in the first. Another slow start.
27-17 vs. Arizona: Slow start again. Down 10-0 early.
44-30 at Detroit: Slow start again. Down 10-3 after the first and 20-9 at halftime.
34-26 vs. Minnesota: Dallas led 7-0 early, and 14-7 in the second quarter.

So, in the seven losses and one tie, the offense started slow four times and started fast four times.

Regardless, it's not how you start, it's how you finish. Dallas has lost or tied games this year scoring 40, 27, 30, and 26 points. A competent defense could have this team sitting on a 10-4 record right now.

The slow start narrative is just plain lazy. It doesn't matter how they start if the defense is going to give up 40+ points they're going to have a hard time winning.

 

[blueblood70]

Now his many of those top QB's are in the playoffs???

How many of them have what might many would refer to as the worst assembled defense in the history of the NFL and I'm probably not even exaggerating I don't think I've ever witnessed for an entire year that many bad games by one defense and I mean by bad horrible disgusting When you look at your quarterback being in the top five of just about every statistical ranking has scored close to 30 points a game where his defense has given up 30 or more points a game it's disgusting how many how many of those teams have that kind of defense?

I mean we talking about playoffs we're not discussing the quarterback we're discussing their teams prescott's on a bad team he's doing the best he possibly could having one of his best seasons is going unnoticed because of how bad the rest of the team is you want to add in special teams from the Lions game you want to add into miss field goals you want all the dropped passes that's happened this year that's turned into turnovers and fumbles and blah blah blah right Prescott's having even a better year than a statistic show and he's not getting thing from it but people saying well he's not making the playoffs.. .

 

[blueblood70]

This made me think and look back on how slow Dak and the offense really has started in losses/ties this year:

24-20 at Philly: Dallas led 7-0 in the 1st quarter and 14-7 in the second.
31-14 at Chicago: Dallas fell behind 14-3 in the first. Slow start correct.
40-40 vs. Green Bay: First quarter was slow but Dallas did lead 16-13 at halftime.
30-27 at Carolina: Dallas led 10-3 in the second and led 17-13 at halftime.
44-24 at Denver: Dallas fell behind 14-3 in the first. Another slow start.
27-17 vs. Arizona: Slow start again. Down 10-0 early.
44-30 at Detroit: Slow start again. Down 10-3 after the first and 20-9 at halftime.
34-26 vs. Minnesota: Dallas led 7-0 early, and 14-7 in the second quarter.

So, in the seven losses and one tie, the offense started slow four times and started fast four times.

Regardless, it's not how you start, it's how you finish. Dallas has lost or tied games this year scoring 40, 27, 30, and 26 points. A competent defense could have this team sitting on a 10-4 record right now.

 

[Chasing6]

How many of them have what might many would refer to as the worst assembled defense in the history of the NFL and I'm probably not even exaggerating I don't think I've ever witnessed for an entire year that many bad games by one defense and I mean by bad horrible disgusting When you look at your quarterback being in the top five of just about every statistical ranking has scored close to 30 points a game where his defense has given up 30 or more points a game it's disgusting how many how many of those teams have that kind of defense?

I mean we talking about playoffs we're not discussing the quarterback we're discussing their teams prescott's on a bad team he's doing the best he possibly could having one of his best seasons is going unnoticed because of how bad the rest of the team is you want to add in special teams from the Lions game you want to add into miss field goals you want all the dropped passes that's happened this year that's turned into turnovers and fumbles and blah blah blah right Prescott's having even a better year than a statistic show and he's not getting thing from it but people saying well he's not making the playoffs.. .

And Jerry will spend more money on the offense during the off season.

No NFL team has ever made the playoffs giving up 500 or more points.

 

[blueblood70]

And Jerry will spend more money on the offense during the off season.

No NFL team has ever made the playoffs giving up 500 or more points.

It's not how much money you spend it's getting the right players whether they're budget free agents or draft picks You know the New York Giants were I think number one and how much money they spent on their defense and in the afc it was the steelers, I can't remember what the other team was but both of them didn't have a very good defense, how about that I mean it isn't about the money it's about making the right choices..

Right now, they're already got three defensive tackles making $20 million apiece and they're going to have to figure out how to restructure Kenny Clark, they already resigned Bland, Osa to big contracts...

So regardless of what you think it's not how much money you spend, it's spending it wisely ,but it's assembling a team that's good,

that's it ,that's what we need, we've seen that before the Paper Champions you remember all the names and the money the Eagles spent I don't know a decade ago is called the Dream Team, that fell on their faces, it's not just about the money ,when are you guys going to figure that out..

I mean revels a rookie, Blands paid IDl all paid, EZE rookie, Overshown on a rookie deal,

I feel like those two rookies are going to make a good step next year ,if they have a healthy offseason, and a long training camp, why does it matter how much money they make?

I do need to put some resources in it on the defense, but it doesn't mean all of how much you pay each one ,you got to draft some will be under rookie contracts...

But pretty much the offense is already set by the wa,

I mean the money's already spent, they're already there of course more moneys already spent on the offense because they were paid already big money, This is why I'm on the side that I like George Pickens but if you can get a high first round pick for him on a franchise tag why not trade him let Florinoi move up to WR2 draft another WR2 and spend that money on the defense or on a tackle or something..

That's my take on that because I like George but they sure could use that money and that draft pick It could help the team in big ways..

But it's who you bring over, it's not how much money they make, they need to make really good decisions which are the way I think the 2 safeties being cut is likely... More than likely diggs is gone,

so yeah, they're going to need to bring in players but that money is just going to be replaced..

I just want to keep it real, it's not always how much money you spend ,we've seen it before both sides of the ball..

It just has to be about balance...draft picks, Fas, and who you keep....

This needs to start with a new defensive coordinator. You know, that can do more with less... That for sure is not eberpoo...