Post Week 14 (2025): QB Combined Statistical Ranking

[blueblood70]

Here's my report..

Against KC - Dak's arm is hit while throwing on the first possession and the ball is picked. The next three possessions go TD, FG, TD.
Against Detroit - FG, punt FG on the first three possessions. Then Ferguson fumbled away the 4th possession at the Detroit 47.
Against Minny - TD, punt, TD, missed FG.

So that's 12 possessions.. 4 TD, 3 F, 2 turnovers, 2 punts and 1 missed FG.

I'm not seeing slow starts here. Unless you consider scoring on 3/4 of your possessions "slow."

I didn't either but the Minnesota game proves that point they got up 7 they got up 14 to 7 it didn't matter no matter how they start the games the defenses are not going to allow us to win the games.. And then you add an unfortunate two missed field goals and the the gap was unattainable those two field goals were big in this particular game we needed them more than ever and George Pickens disappears for whatever reason I don't know i'm not blaming him mostly maybe they didn't have time to see him get open and then you have your allegedly best player according to this place missed 2 field goals that are easily within his normal range not chip shots but still that was a big part of this game.. But yeah we both seen it people are making a big deal of it they said you start fast you could win the game no that is if you had a really good defense you give them a lead they hold it no that is not what this Cowboys defense does they never hold a lead prescott playing from behind all game whether it's at the beginning in the middle and the end he's always needing to come back it's never enough how Jerry doesn't see that Matt can't retain his job number What happens these next three games is beyond me I hope this is all just public posturing and don't want to throw the guy under the bus matt needs to go//

 

[DFWJC]

I see a thread never intended to be specifically about our QB has become that again.

Long dissertations and reasons why our guy is the best ever.

Jeez guys.
Come on

If anything, these stats add up to him playing well (on average) this year

But NOT the intention of the thread to diss or prop up anyone.
Just data

 

[Chasing6]

It's not how much money you spend it's getting the right players whether they're budget free agents or draft picks You know the New York Giants were I think number one and how much money they spent on their defense and in the afc it was the steelers, I can't remember what the other team was but both of them didn't have a very good defense, how about that I mean it isn't about the money it's about making the right choices..

Right now, they're already got three defensive tackles making $20 million apiece and they're going to have to figure out how to restructure Kenny Clark, they already resigned Bland, Osa to big contracts...

So regardless of what you think it's not how much money you spend, it's spending it wisely ,but it's assembling a team that's good,

that's it ,that's what we need, we've seen that before the Paper Champions you remember all the names and the money the Eagles spent I don't know a decade ago is called the Dream Team, that fell on their faces, it's not just about the money ,when are you guys going to figure that out..

I mean revels a rookie, Blands paid IDl all paid, EZE rookie, Overshown on a rookie deal,

I feel like those two rookies are going to make a good step next year ,if they have a healthy offseason, and a long training camp, why does it matter how much money they make?

I do need to put some resources in it on the defense, but it doesn't mean all of how much you pay each one ,you got to draft some will be under rookie contracts...

But pretty much the offense is already set by the wa,

I mean the money's already spent, they're already there of course more moneys already spent on the offense because they were paid already big money, This is why I'm on the side that I like George Pickens but if you can get a high first round pick for him on a franchise tag why not trade him let Florinoi move up to WR2 draft another WR2 and spend that money on the defense or on a tackle or something..

That's my take on that because I like George but they sure could use that money and that draft pick It could help the team in big ways..

But it's who you bring over, it's not how much money they make, they need to make really good decisions which are the way I think the 2 safeties being cut is likely... More than likely diggs is gone,

so yeah, they're going to need to bring in players but that money is just going to be replaced..

I just want to keep it real, it's not always how much money you spend ,we've seen it before both sides of the ball..

It just has to be about balance...draft picks, Fas, and who you keep....

This needs to start with a new defensive coordinator. You know, that can do more with less... That for sure is not eberpoo...

Sure, when you spend $100M more on offense than your defense what could go wrong???

 

[RonnieT24]

I didn't either but the Minnesota game proves that point they got up 7 they got up 14 to 7 it didn't matter no matter how they start the games the defenses are not going to allow us to win the games.. And then you add an unfortunate two missed field goals and the the gap was unattainable those two field goals were big in this particular game we needed them more than ever and George Pickens disappears for whatever reason I don't know i'm not blaming him mostly maybe they didn't have time to see him get open and then you have your allegedly best player according to this place missed 2 field goals that are easily within his normal range not chip shots but still that was a big part of this game.. But yeah we both seen it people are making a big deal of it they said you start fast you could win the game no that is if you had a really good defense you give them a lead they hold it no that is not what this Cowboys defense does they never hold a lead prescott playing from behind all game whether it's at the beginning in the middle and the end he's always needing to come back it's never enough how Jerry doesn't see that Matt can't retain his job number What happens these next three games is beyond me I hope this is all just public posturing and don't want to throw the guy under the bus matt needs to go//

It makes me wonder if Aubrey didn't tweak something on that run on the faked FG. I guarantee you there was a massive surge of adrenaline when he got the ball and that stressed muscles that he normally doesn't use in a game. He's too good to be missing multiple FGs even from long distance. I say we refrain from taxing him too much in the future.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

It makes me wonder if Aubrey didn't tweak something on that run on the faked FG. I guarantee you there was a massive surge of adrenaline when he got the ball and that stressed muscles that he normally doesn't use in a game. He's too good to be missing multiple FGs even from long distance. I say we refrain from taxing him too much in the future.

I don't think he tweaked anything. The 59 yard miss had plenty of distance, it was just off the mark. If he had a soft tissue problem the kick probably wouldn't have traveled that far.

 

[DFWJC]

Updated after week 15

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[blueblood70]

Sure, when you spend $100M more on offense than your defense what could go wrong???

Actually flip flops you do realize that it ebbs and flows back and forth as guys come up for new contracts from a rookie to it big contract and then as guys get older and cut off the team each side of the ball it goes back and forth...

Why don't you add it up Mr CPA I mean right now they're gonna have to do some cap gymnastics they got three interior defensive lineman making $20 million each.. They have two corners making what $19 million each, And at some point overshown his contract will come due but they have money on that side of the ball but typically given the fact that most top five quarterbacks or if you want to call Prescott a top 10 quarterback are making the biggest contracts on the team it will weigh the offense down..

I get what you're saying but I think you'd think they doing it on purpose and sometimes that's just the way it goes our stars happen to be on that side of the ball when you look at the draft pick sometimes you just hit on one side and that's what the Cowboys have done offensive lineman receivers tight end quarterback they've all pretty much become stars on this team and now you have George Pickens and your running back up..

Was not done on purpose they are just not hitting on defense or they would have I mean if you want to trade two of those defensive lineman and pay your defensive end 47 million if you think that would have changed something this year you're severely mistaken but at one time they did pay what jalen Smith sean Lee LVE they all got new contracts..

They're all gone that's what happens when you find another really good one that's going to need an expensive contract jerry will be happy to pay him he didn't let Parsons go because of money he let Parsons go because of the money versus he didn't feel the negotiation process went the way it should have.

That nonsense Parsons poll I realized Jerry played the game just as well but what he did in social media laying on tables his body language his attitude demanding trades he got pushed off this team not because of money not because Jerry didn't want to pay that side of the ball it was the other things Jerry actually had a line..

Point is if that didn't happen we'd have a $43 million defensive end on our team right now that wasn't because of money There were other factors and later On down the road there'll be another guy up I remember them paying De Marcus Ware I remember them paying other guys like Dion Sanders hell Brandon Carr was one of the highest paid corners at one time you act like they won't pay defenders and I'm reminding you it's just slanted right now because that's where all our talent is..

Don't say that's by design They'd be happy to pay some defenders if they actually would play well they haven't they've missed on a lot of defenders so they're gonna be younger or more budget friendly until they hit on another one...

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[Chasing6]

Actually flip flops you do realize that it ebbs and flows back and forth as guys come up for new contracts from a rookie to it big contract and then as guys get older and cut off the team each side of the ball it goes back and forth...

Why don't you add it up Mr CPA I mean right now they're gonna have to do some cap gymnastics they got three interior defensive lineman making $20 million each.. They have two corners making what $19 million each, And at some point overshown his contract will come due but they have money on that side of the ball but typically given the fact that most top five quarterbacks or if you want to call Prescott a top 10 quarterback are making the biggest contracts on the team it will weigh the offense down..

I get what you're saying but I think you'd think they doing it on purpose and sometimes that's just the way it goes our stars happen to be on that side of the ball when you look at the draft pick sometimes you just hit on one side and that's what the Cowboys have done offensive lineman receivers tight end quarterback they've all pretty much become stars on this team and now you have George Pickens and your running back up..

Was not done on purpose they are just not hitting on defense or they would have I mean if you want to trade two of those defensive lineman and pay your defensive end 47 million if you think that would have changed something this year you're severely mistaken but at one time they did pay what jalen Smith sean Lee LVE they all got new contracts..

They're all gone that's what happens when you find another really good one that's going to need an expensive contract jerry will be happy to pay him he didn't let Parsons go because of money he let Parsons go because of the money versus he didn't feel the negotiation process went the way it should have.

That nonsense Parsons poll I realized Jerry played the game just as well but what he did in social media laying on tables his body language his attitude demanding trades he got pushed off this team not because of money not because Jerry didn't want to pay that side of the ball it was the other things Jerry actually had a line..

Point is if that didn't happen we'd have a $43 million defensive end on our team right now that wasn't because of money There were other factors and later On down the road there'll be another guy up I remember them paying De Marcus Ware I remember them paying other guys like Dion Sanders hell Brandon Carr was one of the highest paid corners at one time you act like they won't pay defenders and I'm reminding you it's just slanted right now because that's where all our talent is..

Don't say that's by design They'd be happy to pay some defenders if they actually would play well they haven't they've missed on a lot of defenders so they're gonna be younger or more budget friendly until they hit on another one...

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When was the last year we spent more money on Defense??? I'll wait.

 

[DFWJC]

How did a thread devoted to combining 2 main stats for all 32+ QBs, with zero emphasis specifically on the Cowboys or our QB, become a thread about Cowboys' spending on defensive players?

I'm sure its a great discussion,and would fit right in with 20 other threads much more related to this, but it has no place at all here.

Take this crap elsewhere please

 

[Swagger]

How did a thread devoted to combining 2 main stats for all 32+ QBs, with zero emphasis specifically on the Cowboys or our QB, become a thread about Cowboys' spending on defensive players?

I'm sure its a great discussion,and would fit right in with 20 other threads much more related to this, but it has no place at all here.

Take this crap elsewhere please

haha so good! I agree

 

[TwentyOne]

Seems like a fair evaluation

Weird not to see Burrow but I guess he didn't meet the minimum games?

Thats what the explanation says at the end of the list ;-)

 

[blueblood70]

When was the last year we spent more money on Defense??? I'll wait.

I didn't say we ever have i'm saying sometimes it might be pretty close split in the middle I don't know but we have had years where we paid a lot of defenders You're hitting these in cycles and right now the offense has more talent on that side of the ball therefore they're all paid higher. I would love today we're our defenders We're so good that they get paid top money and outside of Parsons Jerry's always paid everyone i've already mentioned it i'm saying right now it's not being done on purpose all the talent seems to be working out from the draft even some of the budget free agents like Williams the the trades I mean it's all on the offensive side not by design it just happened to work out that way and I don't care How you're trying to box this because I'm telling you it wasn't done by design or on purpose they just have not hit on an awful lot on defense in a while..

Again already pointed out the New York Giants and the Pittsburgh Steelers were the top teams in each conference that have the highest paid salaries on defense and it didn't really help them out that much,,

At least our offense being overpaid at least it's one of the best in the entire league top 3 in the entire NFL that's what you're paying for I get your point but we don't even have the talent to pay what do you want you want them to just pay anyone maximum dollars just to make you happy should we just pay everyone so chasing will be happy the defenders all should get 50 million each to make you happy even though they don't deserve it that's where it should go...

 

[blueblood70]

It makes me wonder if Aubrey didn't tweak something on that run on the faked FG. I guarantee you there was a massive surge of adrenaline when he got the ball and that stressed muscles that he normally doesn't use in a game. He's too good to be missing multiple FGs even from long distance. I say we refrain from taxing him too much in the future.

I don't think so, he's not Superman, he misses kicks, not many,


but let me tell you how it's been all year a lot of his kicks are going way too close to the right upright all year Not every one of them but last year they were all straight down the middle pretty much you can almost count on where they were going to land he's been pushing them to that side for quite a while now this year and some of them just didn't make it he is not a kicker to where he kicks to the right and it comes way back into the left or vice versa he's not a pull kicker he's a straight on kicker that's why he's so good at long kicks..

Look at all the ones he missed they all went right Not by too much but they all been coming right even the ones he's been making this year have been really hugging that right upright..

I think it's something to do with his plant foot or the operations you know the snap the hold the way the ball is being put on the ground slanted one way or the other something slightly off for the last two or three weeks we've seen it the ones he's missed and a lot of the ones he's made has been really close to that right upright...

Why do we try to give guys a pass because they're injured when we really want to make an excuse for them but if anybody else uses that excuse like say Trayvon Diggs has never been healthy maybe that's why he's not playing well maybe Bland is trying to come back too soon revel maybe he's coming back too soon they all were injured for a fact and it could take a while for them to catch up...

Carson?Lamb, Hell even George was banged up what was it at the end of the Lions game I mean we could just use this excuse for the whole team you remember when Prescott was limping Was that also the Lions game I mean he been banged around all year so yeah maybe we can't get in the red zone because these guys are all dinged up..LOL

I mean I the irony here do you see it I mean you're trying to make excuses for our kicker but a lot of people aren't giving a break to all these players that were rushed back off of injury because we were desperate to have anybody's out there playing well...

 

[Captain-Crash]

I see a thread never intended to be specifically about our QB has become that again.

Long dissertations and reasons why our guy is the best ever.

Jeez guys.
Come on

If anything, these stats add up to him playing well (on average) this year

But NOT the intention of the thread to diss or prop up anyone.
Just data

You have done well, good job.

 

[Ironicalicon]

Hurts with -5 (TDs-Turnovers) in one single game
Might be worst I’ve seen in 20 years

Ooh, I gotta go find that box score!

 

[Chasing6]

I didn't say we ever have i'm saying sometimes it might be pretty close split in the middle I don't know but we have had years where we paid a lot of defenders You're hitting these in cycles and right now the offense has more talent on that side of the ball therefore they're all paid higher. I would love today we're our defenders We're so good that they get paid top money and outside of Parsons Jerry's always paid everyone i've already mentioned it i'm saying right now it's not being done on purpose all the talent seems to be working out from the draft even some of the budget free agents like Williams the the trades I mean it's all on the offensive side not by design it just happened to work out that way and I don't care How you're trying to box this because I'm telling you it wasn't done by design or on purpose they just have not hit on an awful lot on defense in a while..

Again already pointed out the New York Giants and the Pittsburgh Steelers were the top teams in each conference that have the highest paid salaries on defense and it didn't really help them out that much,,

At least our offense being overpaid at least it's one of the best in the entire league top 3 in the entire NFL that's what you're paying for I get your point but we don't even have the talent to pay what do you want you want them to just pay anyone maximum dollars just to make you happy should we just pay everyone so chasing will be happy the defenders all should get 50 million each to make you happy even though they don't deserve it that's where it should go...

This is not a cycle. This is Jerry think. He believes offense is entertaining and sells tickets.

 

[blueblood70]

This is not a cycle. This is Jerry think. He believes offense is entertaining and sells tickets.

I'm not gonna do it all day with this if you wanna go do this I tell you why won't you do a 32 game study and you tell me right now as it sits today how much money on each side of the ball each team is spending I bet you're gonna find a lot of it is slightly shaded towards offense since those guys make more money They're actually the skilled players that fill up stat sheets and they usually get paid big for it you can't tell me there's no way with Jalen Hurts and Smith and AJ Brown and you you have a running back making $20 million a year a couple of really good lineman that the Philadelphia Eagles are not spending a lot more money on that side of the ball it may not be as big a discrepancy...

But I can promise you there's going to be a lot more of them than you think because it seems quite obvious except for to you because you want to be a hard head and this is all about Jerry but I'm betting the Bengals have more money invested in offense right now doesn't mean it will always be that way and these are just off the top of my head but when I see these great offenses there is a lot of highly paid quarterbacks receivers lineman and running backs They get paid typically more than most defenders...

Is a cycle it literally is when guys are rookies they make less money then if they're really good they get paid and what what side of the ball that happens to flourish first when those guys are up for contracts are the ones that are getting paid more on that side of the ball at that moment but those guys end up getting cut or retired and then it changes and then maybe the other side of the ball has now had some players grow up and get paid It is a cycle.

Guarantee you're not an expert they have actually studied and paid attention to all 32 teams and the way they do it because all your hyper focused on is the Cowboys because we are Cowboys fans and we listen to every piece of information that ever comes along with the Cowboys but I bet if you did a 32 game study over a five year. Maybe even make it a decade you'll find out it is a circle it is a cycle and this is normal right now the Cowboys have have the most talent on offense therefore they pay them more it doesn't mean it will always be that way when guys were under rookie contracts I guarantee in 2016 that wasn't the case....

 

[Chasing6]

I'm not gonna do it all day with this if you wanna go do this I tell you why won't you do a 32 game study and you tell me right now as it sits today how much money on each side of the ball each team is spending I bet you're gonna find a lot of it is slightly shaded towards offense since those guys make more money They're actually the skilled players that fill up stat sheets and they usually get paid big for it you can't tell me there's no way with Jalen Hurts and Smith and AJ Brown and you you have a running back making $20 million a year a couple of really good lineman that the Philadelphia Eagles are not spending a lot more money on that side of the ball it may not be as big a discrepancy...

But I can promise you there's going to be a lot more of them than you think because it seems quite obvious except for to you because you want to be a hard head and this is all about Jerry but I'm betting the Bengals have more money invested in offense right now doesn't mean it will always be that way and these are just off the top of my head but when I see these great offenses there is a lot of highly paid quarterbacks receivers lineman and running backs They get paid typically more than most defenders...

Is a cycle it literally is when guys are rookies they make less money then if they're really good they get paid and what what side of the ball that happens to flourish first when those guys are up for contracts are the ones that are getting paid more on that side of the ball at that moment but those guys end up getting cut or retired and then it changes and then maybe the other side of the ball has now had some players grow up and get paid It is a cycle.

Guarantee you're not an expert they have actually studied and paid attention to all 32 teams and the way they do it because all your hyper focused on is the Cowboys because we are Cowboys fans and we listen to every piece of information that ever comes along with the Cowboys but I bet if you did a 32 game study over a five year. Maybe even make it a decade you'll find out it is a circle it is a cycle and this is normal right now the Cowboys have have the most talent on offense therefore they pay them more it doesn't mean it will always be that way when guys were under rookie contracts I guarantee in 2016 that wasn't the case....

$100M difference is not slightly sided.

What what happens in the off season. Money will be spent on Pickens and Williams.

 

[Captain-Crash]

pretty sure this is a QB Combined Statistical Ranking, and he did a great job, so don't junk it up with tears.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I see a thread never intended to be specifically about our QB has become that again.

Long dissertations and reasons why our guy is the best ever.

Jeez guys.
Come on

If anything, these stats add up to him playing well (on average) this year

But NOT the intention of the thread to diss or prop up anyone.
Just data

Just showing data is meaningless. You have to process and DO something with it.

What does this data mean?

"dissing or propping" is a matter of opinion and perspective. But still a natural progression from raw data.