Praying for Flood victims, Kerr/Kendall County

[gtb1943]

It’s called the Hill Country for a reason

I currently live in a very dry area that can flood quickly. Does not happen more than maybe once a year

but I never go near anyplace that could flood if there looks like serious rain

The NWS forecasted severe thunderstorms and possibly record rain 24 hours before all this happened

The warning was there

too many ignored it

 

[triplets_93]

 

[gtb1943]

horrible

all those young lives

 

[triplets_93]

 

[kskboys]

heavy rains forecast

you are on a flood plain
this is not rocket science

Not that simple.

 

[nobody]

There are so many summer camps that are in flood plains, or on the edges of rivers. This should make those camps rethink what sections of these camps are safe and what aren't. I've been to a few with my son that absolutely would have had casualties had there been flooding. It's unconscionable to risk lives for the sake of more spots to provide in a camp.

 

[kskboys]

I’m in San Angelo and we got 14.6 from 4:30-6:00 in the morning. I’ve lived here 52 years and have never seen anything like it. The water was 12 feet deep over the highway on the Northeast side of town.

Camp Mystic is a Girl Scout camp in Kerrvill. It’s on the river because it’s a summer river camp with all the activities centered on, in, and around the river. They received the same 14 inches of rain which led to a 20 foot wall of water that formed over a 45 minute period and then raced down a rock canyon. It’s called a catastrophic event because that’s what it was.

There was no preventing it, no stopping it, and a tragedy that nobody around has ever seen it’s equal. It should have been even worse and would have if not for the bravery of the first responders here. Local PD, Fire, State Troopers, and even the Game Wardens were involved and saved a bunch of people.

OK, I've been talking to several search and rescue and others to get what happened.

Basically, upstream is a group of mountains. I'm going to guess 30+ miles from Kerrville. The rain hit heavily on this range, and ran down the mountains in torrents, reportedly in excess of 70 MPH. This is where the flooding in Kerrville came from. It didn't come from the rain in Kerrville.

The river rose 26 feet in 45 minutes.

Very very sad that no warning system was in place.

 

[kskboys]

and you are as usual spreading hate

I actually don't disagree that some sort of warning system should've been in place, along w/ limited homes w/i a certain distance of the river.

A town just a few miles up river from Kerrville, Hunt, was pretty much destroyed.

 

[kskboys]

There are so many summer camps that are in flood plains, or on the edges of rivers. This should make those camps rethink what sections of these camps are safe and what aren't. I've been to a few with my son that absolutely would have had casualties had there been flooding. It's unconscionable to risk lives for the sake of more spots to provide in a camp.

Couldn't agree more. IMO, the buildings at Camp Mystic were obviously too close to the river.

 

[kskboys]

Info report: "Much of Camp Mystic was constructed on land near the Guadalupe River that is particularly vulnerable to flooding, according to Federal Emergency Management Agency flood mapping."

And: "A comparison of Google sat maps and FEMA flood mapping show many camp buildings were in special flood hazard areas."

Sad sad sad. There's no way they didn't know.

 

[HungryLion]

Info report: "Much of Camp Mystic was constructed on land near the Guadalupe River that is particularly vulnerable to flooding, according to Federal Emergency Management Agency flood mapping."

And: "A comparison of Google sat maps and FEMA flood mapping show many camp buildings were in special flood hazard areas."

Sad sad sad. There's no way they didn't know.

I know a lot of people are skeptical of government regulations. But this is the exact type of stuff that should be regulated when safety and lives are directly in the line.


Anyway. Awful. Just awful situation. I can’t imagine my son or daughter being at summer camp and not coming home. I would be devastated beyond words. I feel for those parents.

 

[gtb1943]

I know a lot of people are skeptical of government regulations. But this is the exact type of stuff that should be regulated when safety and lives are directly in the line.


Anyway. Awful. Just awful situation. I can’t imagine my son or daughter being at summer camp and not coming home. I would be devastated beyond words. I feel for those parents.

most of the parents will never recover from this.
A lot of them will probably kill themselves one way or another over the following years
if not directly by drinking, just not caring about living, etc

 

[gtb1943]

Info report: "Much of Camp Mystic was constructed on land near the Guadalupe River that is particularly vulnerable to flooding, according to Federal Emergency Management Agency flood mapping."

And: "A comparison of Google sat maps and FEMA flood mapping show many camp buildings were in special flood hazard areas."

Sad sad sad. There's no way they didn't know.

that to me is the worst thing about this
It did not need to happen

 

[kskboys]

that to me is the worst thing about this
It did not need to happen

At first I didn't really agree w/ you, but the more I read about it the more I'm inclined to believe that it could've been less horrible.

 

[triplets_93]

 

[triplets_93]

 

[triplets_93]

that to me is the worst thing about this
It did not need to happen

https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/05/texas-hill-country-floods-warning-forecast-nws/

 

[gtb1943]

At first I didn't really agree w/ you, but the more I read about it the more I'm inclined to believe that it could've been less horrible.

Those that died were area residents; used to the area and what happens when it rains hard. These were not from somewhere unfamiliar with flash flooding.
And maybe that is why this was so bad; the old saying familiarity breeds contempt might have been terribly proven here.

 

[kskboys]

Those that died were area residents; used to the area and what happens when it rains hard. These were not from somewhere unfamiliar with flash flooding.
And maybe that is why this was so bad; the old saying familiarity breeds contempt might have been terribly proven here.

Some yes, but many were campers here for the weekend and had no idea they were on a flood plain. The residents should know and more warning and such should've taken place.

 

[Rockport]

Some yes, but many were campers here for the weekend and had no idea they were on a flood plain. The residents should know and more warning and such should've taken place.

It isn’t a flood plain, it’s flash flood alley. A river surrounded by hills as it’s in The Hill Country of Texas.