Price - Ron Mexico - Bledsoe - Stats

[TwoDeep3]

In the past so many people wanted to read the tea leaves and come up with negative reasons why Price had such a poor career in Atlanta. Maybe we should look a little deeper.

1st- lets talk about what he did with Atlanta.

2003 Atlanta Falcons 16 15 64 838 13.1 49 3 9 5 40
2004 Atlanta Falcons 16 15 45 575 12.8 50 3 8 2 28

This will not lead the league, but 800 plus yards with Ron Mexico is pretty consistent with what he does with his wide receivers. He throws to the tight end and struggles finding WR.

Yet...

This is the same Peerless Price with Drew Bledsoe the year before he went to Atlanta.

2002 Buffalo Bills 16 16 94 1252 13.3 73 9 16 6 57

I don't believe anyone thinks he will match those numbers. Even if we pro-rate them for the games he has not played.

But when he has a quarterback who will throw the ball to the WR, Price can play this man's game.

Further proof that Ron Mexico is iffy when he tosses the ball to wide-outs.

Go to this web site and put your cursor on the receivers for the Falcons and see what yardage they have after six games.

www.nfl.com/teams/depthcharts/ATL

Vick throws to his tight end as his primary receiver. The idea Price failed there has to include the fact that Vick is not that swift as a quarterback. He tends to throw the ball way too hard, has little touch, and runs far too quickly.

Sometimes I think he would be a much better quarterback if they would shackle his *** to one spot and force him to throw.

So all this bilge about Price and what he did in Atlanta surely requires someone with a scintilla of intellect to factor in who was tossing those passes to him.

For the lazy:

D. White - 4 games.. 2 catches.. 25 yards
B. Finneran - 6 games.. 19 catches.. 238 yards
M. Jenkins - 6 games.. 14 catches.. 241 yards
R. White - 6 games.. 3 catches.. 24 yards

A Crumpler - 6 games.. 23 catches.. 309 yards
D. Blakley - 6 games.. 4 catches.. 30 yards

Now trundle over to the Cowboys site and see how they spread the ball around.

www.nfl.com/teams/depthcharts/DAL

K. Johnson - 6 games.. 27 catches.. 348 yards
T. Glenn - 6 games.. 29 catches.. 582 yards
P. Crayton - 6 games.. 18 catches.. 272 yards

J. Witten - 6 games.. 28 catches.. 317 yards

It is evident that Vick is a runner that throws versus Bledsoe who is a thrower that very rarely runs.

Maybe we can put this bed about Price not havinng anything left in the tank.

 

[Alexander]

Maybe we can put this bed about Price not havinng anything left in the tank.

Until he gets activated, any discussion of whether or not he has anything left is a waste of time.

 

[kartr]

In the past so many people wanted to read the tea leaves and come up with negative reasons why Price had such a poor career in Atlanta. Maybe we should look a little deeper.

1st- lets talk about what he did with Atlanta.

2003 Atlanta Falcons 16 15 64 838 13.1 49 3 9 5 40
2004 Atlanta Falcons 16 15 45 575 12.8 50 3 8 2 28

This will not lead the league, but 800 plus yards with Ron Mexico is pretty consistent with what he does with his wide receivers. He throws to the tight end and struggles finding WR.

Yet...

This is the same Peerless Price with Drew Bledsoe the year before he went to Atlanta.

2002 Buffalo Bills 16 16 94 1252 13.3 73 9 16 6 57

I don't believe anyone thinks he will match those numbers. Even if we pro-rate them for the games he has not played.

But when he has a quarterback who will throw the ball to the WR, Price can play this man's game.

Further proof that Ron Mexico is iffy when he tosses the ball to wide-outs.

Go to this web site and put your cursor on the receivers for the Falcons and see what yardage they have after six games.

www.nfl.com/teams/depthcharts/ATL

Vick throws to his tight end as his primary receiver. The idea Price failed there has to include the fact that Vick is not that swift as a quarterback. He tends to throw the ball way too hard, has little touch, and runs far too quickly.

Sometimes I think he would be a much better quarterback if they would shackle his *** to one spot and force him to throw.

So all this bilge about Price and what he did in Atlanta surely requires someone with a scintilla of intellect to factor in who was tossing those passes to him.

For the lazy:

D. White - 4 games.. 2 catches.. 25 yards
B. Finneran - 6 games.. 19 catches.. 238 yards
M. Jenkins - 6 games.. 14 catches.. 241 yards
R. White - 6 games.. 3 catches.. 24 yards

A Crumpler - 6 games.. 23 catches.. 309 yards
D. Blakley - 6 games.. 4 catches.. 30 yards

Now trundle over to the Cowboys site and see how they spread the ball around.

www.nfl.com/teams/depthcharts/DAL

K. Johnson - 6 games.. 27 catches.. 348 yards
T. Glenn - 6 games.. 29 catches.. 582 yards
P. Crayton - 6 games.. 18 catches.. 272 yards

J. Witten - 6 games.. 28 catches.. 317 yards

It is evident that Vick is a runner that throws versus Bledsoe who is a thrower that very rarely runs.

Maybe we can put this bed about Price not havinng anything left in the tank.

Bledsoe is in his 13th NFL season, Vick is also in his 5th. Not a good comparison. Bledsoe should be better at passing. How about this for a comparison though, Vick has gotten his team to the playoffs 2 of the last four years while Bledsoe is 0 of the last 6 years and Bledsoe has had better receivers and running backs and a defense that was number 3 in 2003 and number 2 in 2004. Do you want a qb who wins games or puts up big numbers and chokes in the clutch?

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Sorry, this a bad comparison. Like somene else said, let him step on the field first, before we have this discussion.

BTW, like most of the athletes will tell you, the name of the game is winning and as of now, Bledsoe and Vick have the same number of Super Bowl Rings.

ZERO!!!

- Mike G.

 

[Kilyin]

Bledsoe is in his 13th NFL season, Vick is also in his 5th. Not a good comparison. Bledsoe should be better at passing. How about this for a comparison though, Vick has gotten his team to the playoffs 2 of the last four years while Bledsoe is 0 of the last 6 years and Bledsoe has had better receivers and running backs and a defense that was number 3 in 2003 and number 2 in 2004. Do you want a qb who wins games or puts up big numbers and chokes in the clutch?

Who cares if you go to the playoffs and lose? What exactly does that accomplish? I know you love Quincy, and like to emphasize he got us to the playoffs too, but again, we lost, and at the end of the day, that's what matters.

Vick doesn't win in the clutch. The playoffs have proven that. Bledsoe had better running backs? Then why has Atlanta constantly been the number one rushing team in the NFL? Sure Vick plays a big role in that, but so do the RBs. Any receiver being thrown a ball from Vick is going to look pedestrian, bottom line.

 

[dargonking999]

Until he gets activated, any discussion of whether or not he has anything left is a waste of time.

bottom line, if he was all of this he would have played morethan 1 game. The thing that hurt him in ATL, was the fact that he didnt want to try. HE didnt run hard in practices, he didnt want to work, to get the ball, to get open, to try and get Vick's attention, all he did was whine and sqabble, when Vick pulled it down and ran, He finnaly deceided to do something when the demoted his lazy butt to 3 WR, but he still didnt show anything, i thought coming over here BP woudl put him to work, he has yet to play, so i'm guessing that a NO.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Bledsoe is in his 13th NFL season, Vick is also in his 5th. Not a good comparison. Bledsoe should be better at passing. How about this for a comparison though, Vick has gotten his team to the playoffs 2 of the last four years while Bledsoe is 0 of the last 6 years and Bledsoe has had better receivers and running backs and a defense that was number 3 in 2003 and number 2 in 2004. Do you want a qb who wins games or puts up big numbers and chokes in the clutch?

Brett Favre is a Hall-of-Famer first ballot.

Do you believe he will get his team to the play-offs this season?

How about Tom Brady? He is a fifth or sixth year player now and surely has done more.

This is a team sport. Not one player has that much control on the game.

The knock on Vick wasn't something I came up with. This has been discussed by many here and in the media.

By the way, Aikman was a fourth year player and won the Super Bowl.

The point of this is surely that Vick was instrumental in the success, or lack of same regarding Price.

By the way, prove it was Bledsoe that choked in the clutch.

I think you may spend the rest of ther afternoon researching that for naught.

 

[dargonking999]

Who cares if you go to the playoffs and lose? What exactly does that accomplish? I know you love Quincy, and like to emphasize he got us to the playoffs too, but again, we lost, and at the end of the day, that's what matters.

Vick doesn't win in the clutch. The playoffs have proven that. Bledsoe had better running backs? Then why has Atlanta constantly been the number one rushing team in the NFL? Sure Vick plays a big role in that, but so do the RBs. Any receiver being thrown a ball from Vick is going to look pedestrian, bottom line.

Wow, so going down to lambeau, (before they fell apart) in his second, season, and beating the packers AT LAMBEAU in the playoffs, wasnt clutch. Because what they have lost twice to the eagles now, in the playoffs, in the cold tempature. BTW if you havent noticed Peyton manning a Dome QB, has had the same problems against NE. Bottom line vick has had a winning record every since he was ATL starting QB.

 

[junk]

Sorry, this a bad comparison. Like somene else said, let him step on the field first, before we have this discussion.

BTW, like most of the athletes will tell you, the name of the game is winning and as of now, Bledsoe and Vick have the same number of Super Bowl Rings.

ZERO!!!

- Mike G.

Well, if you want to nitpick, Bledsoe does have one.

I'll agree that having the scatter armed Vick trying to throw to Price didn't help his career. On the other hand, other than one outstanding year with Bledsoe, Price has also been pretty average.

Its a "what have you done for me lately" league, so lets see what Price can do.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Well, if you want to nitpick, Bledsoe does have one.

I'll agree that having the scatter armed Vick trying to throw to Price didn't help his career. On the other hand, other than one outstanding year with Bledsoe, Price has also been pretty average.

Its a "what have you done for me lately" league, so lets see what Price can do.

Yeah right. Forgot he was riding the pine when the Pats won their 1st.

I stand corrected...

- Mike G.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Wow, so going down to lambeau, (before they fell apart) in his second, season, and beating the packers AT LAMBEAU in the playoffs, wasnt clutch. Because what they have lost twice to the eagles now, in the playoffs, in the cold tempature. BTW if you havent noticed Peyton manning a Dome QB, has had the same problems against NE. Bottom line vick has had a winning record every since he was ATL starting QB.

Peyton Manning is one of the biggest Choke Artist on the planet. Go watch his days at Tennessee when he could never beat Florida and choked when Nebraska was going for their last National Title and split with Michigan.

That team he took into the Sugar Bowl against Nebraska in 97 was loaded with NFL Talent.

They were so good they WON it all the next year with Tee Martin.

Talk about Vick being overrated, Manning is right up there with him.

None of em can hold a candle to Brady in my opinion. He would be my first pick if I could start a new franchise today.

- Mike G.

 

[Kilyin]

Wow, so going down to lambeau, (before they fell apart) in his second, season, and beating the packers AT LAMBEAU in the playoffs, wasnt clutch. Because what they have lost twice to the eagles now, in the playoffs, in the cold tempature. BTW if you havent noticed Peyton manning a Dome QB, has had the same problems against NE. Bottom line vick has had a winning record every since he was ATL starting QB.

Like another person said, it is a team sport. We can argue until we're both blue in the face, but no receiver in Atlanta has had more than 850 receiving yards in a season with Vick. The numbers, they don't lie.

Schaub played great in Vick's absence, threw 3 touchdowns and no ints, but Atlanta still lost. Was it because Vick wasn't on the field, or because the team didn't come through?

 

[ravidubey]

bottom line, if he was all of this he would have played morethan 1 game. The thing that hurt him in ATL, was the fact that he didnt want to try. HE didnt run hard in practices, he didnt want to work, to get the ball, to get open, to try and get Vick's attention, all he did was whine and sqabble, when Vick pulled it down and ran, He finnaly deceided to do something when the demoted his lazy butt to 3 WR, but he still didnt show anything, i thought coming over here BP woudl put him to work, he has yet to play, so i'm guessing that a NO.

The people that believed all this crap are the same people who never look beyond the surface of things and can't project anything. Galloway wasn't worth two #1 picks; he sucks. Testaverde can't play anymore; he sucks. Plaxico Burress is a lazy whiner; he sucks. Bledsoe is a sack waiting to happen; he sucks. ALL WRONG.

Now it's Price wasn't a gamebreaker in Atlanta so he sucks. Do you think BP would sign a guy to the active roster and pay multiple millions whom he didn't think was worth it? Here's a newsflash: MICHAEL VICK CAN'T PASS. He can't.

TwoDeep3 is trying to show us what's under the surface.

 

[Kilyin]

Galloway wasn't worth two #1 picks; he sucks

If you assume Galloway would have played for us the way he's playing for Tampa right now (long way to go, he might still stub a toe), maybe that's not true. In the grand scheme of things, Galloway did nothing for the Cowboys, he wasn't worth the picks.

Testaverde can't play anymore; he sucks

Probably still a serviceable backup, but he shouldn't be starting, he's not exactly lighting it up with the Jets.