QB and their 1 targets (Dak & Dez)

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One interesting part of that list
The top 4 are TE which tend to be easier targets than outside receivers
Dez doesn’t get great separation and is targeted too much is what I see in those numbers
Get back to throwing to who ever is open not targeting a player
 

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Current top 5 rated passers in the NFL, and Dak Prescott (8th).
Below the QB is the passer rating to his most-targeted receiver, compared to everybody else on the team who was targeted.

1 Alex Smith 120.5
to Kelce 121.3
to others 120.2

2 Tom Brady 108.4
to Gronkowski 121.9
to others 98.5

3 Kirk Cousins 107.2
to Reed 110.6
to others 106.5

4 Carson Wentz 104.0
to Ertz 115.1
to others 100.2

5 Aaron Rodgers 103.2
to Adams 115.8
to others 101.0

Dak Prescott 98.2
to Bryant 74.4
to others 107.1


All the receivers named above, ranked by their share of total team targets.
Bryant 28.6%
Ertz 25.3%
Kelce 22.2%
Adams 20.6%
Gronkowski 17.9%
Reed 17.3%

Seems like most of those top guys main targets are TEs vs WRs.
 

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There are a few guys who blame Dak on the throw to Williams that went off his hands for a pick 6.

I'm being serious. There are guys here who blame Dak for that.

Hard to believe. I know.

You will find one or two oddballs on every forum. There are very few here that aren't high on the Dak attack.

But everyone is entitled to their views, right?
 

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Dez also started with probably the strongest group of corners in the league as a colleAlsctive.

Dak in those games while looking to force feed Dez was pretty poor with accuracy generally.

Also with the exception of Wentz these are more established qbs and longer tenured qb to passer relationships.

Not worried at all. Dez is still drawing extra coverage and the offense is benefiting from it as a result. I don't think any other player on that list consistently draws as much extra coverage as Dez does....either because they are not their team's nominal "1" or because they are not playing out wide.
 
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Dez also started with probably the strongest group of corners in the league as a colleAlsctive.

Dak in those games while looking to force feed Dez was pretty poor with accuracy generally.

Also with the exception of Wentz these are more established qbs and longer tenured qb to passer relationships.

Not worried at all. Dez is still drawing extra coverage and the offense is benefiting from it as a result. I don't think any other player on that list consistently draws as much extra coverage as Dez does....either because they are not their team's nominal "1" or because they are not playing out wide.
Not sure if the double coverage angle is correct. I'm sure there are some analytics out there that list who draws the most double coverage per snap. I'd be curious to see where Dez is on that list.

But I do agree that he drew some top notch CB's in those first 3 games. But he should have won more battles than he actually did against those guys.
 

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The offense is ranked #2 in points per drive, and #1 in TD per drive. We're 3-3 because of the defense.

Meh, in our 3 losses, the offense failed miserably in the second halves exposing our young, inexperienced, under funded and poorly drafted defense. Had the offense performed up to their first half standards in those 3 games, we would be 5-1.
 

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It's been my opinion for three seasons now that Dallas would be a much better offense by getting rid of Bryant. Having Dez on the field makes us burn far too many plays trying to get him involved, and the reward just isn't there anymore.
 

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Dez also started with probably the strongest group of corners in the league as a colleAlsctive.

Dak in those games while looking to force feed Dez was pretty poor with accuracy generally.

Also with the exception of Wentz these are more established qbs and longer tenured qb to passer relationships.

Not worried at all. Dez is still drawing extra coverage and the offense is benefiting from it as a result. I don't think any other player on that list consistently draws as much extra coverage as Dez does....either because they are not their team's nominal "1" or because they are not playing out wide.


Dez was single covered a lot.
 
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Meh, in our 3 losses, the offense failed miserably in the second halves exposing our young, inexperienced, under funded and poorly drafted defense. Had the offense performed up to their first half standards in those 3 games, we would be 5-1.
I'll give you the Denver game. But they scored 30 and 31 points in those other losses.

That should be enough to win.

It's the defense. Period.
 

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Meh, in our 3 losses, the offense failed miserably in the second halves exposing our young, inexperienced, under funded and poorly drafted defense. Had the offense performed up to their first half standards in those 3 games, we would be 5-1.
When you score your points is irrelevant, unless you're talking about points in garbage time.

Agree that a cheap, poorly-constructed defense is usually a bad defense though.
 

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I'll give you the Denver game. But they scored 30 and 31 points in those other losses.

That should be enough to win.

It's the defense. Period.
Except it isn't enough, when you stop scoring in the second half. The real question you want to ask yourself, is why doesn't the team score in the second half against better opponents when they know they need to?
 
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Except it isn't enough, when you stop scoring in the second half. The real question you want to ask yourself, is why doesn't the team score in the second half against better opponents when they know they need to?
Check out Percy's post just above yours and you will have your answer.
 

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The offense is ranked #2 in points per drive, and #1 in TD per drive. We're 3-3 because of the defense.

The O.P. is in no way an attack on Prescott.
I had a guy on this site debate me that Dak is the reason we lost Rams and Packers. I told him we gave up 34 points against GB.....he said they gave up 28 and that's a great performance from the defense.

Numbers don't work, facts don't work. Some are just clueless and have no idea
 

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When you score your points is irrelevant.
Wooden & static analysis.

Unless you stop scoring points when you need to (Atlanta Q4 Super Bowl) Momentum matters and we lost it both offensively and defensively in the second halves of the 2 winnable defeats this season. The offense failed substantially in the 3rd and 4th quarters of those games.
 
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Unless you stop scoring points when you need to. Momentum matters and we have lost it both offensively and defensively in the second halves of the 2 winnable defeats this season. The offense failed substantially in the 3rd and 4th quarters of those games.
So in other words, when the offense gets a big lead and the defense folds like a cheap lawn chair, it's the offense's fault.

It sure would be nice if once in my lifetime, when the offense slows down a bit, the defense would actually pick up the slack and shut things down.

Like, you know, what good teams do.
 

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So in other words, when the offense gets a big lead and the defense folds like a cheap lawn chair, it's the offense's fault.

It sure would be nice if once in my lifetime, when the offense slows down a bit, the defense would actually pick up the slack and shut things down.

Like, you know, what good teams do.
Like those old Dallas Defenses routinely did and made big heros out of the sizzle playing offense.
 
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