QB ratings of QBs with more than 100 passing attempts

[JoeyBoy718]

I just found this interesting. I checked a few weeks ago and Peyton Manning was beginning to run away with it. Not anymore:

1. Aaron Rodgers 119.2
2. Tony Romo 111.4
3. Peyton Manning 109.5
4. Ben Roethlisberger 105.3
5. Phillip Rivers 101.4
6. Tom Brady 101.0
7. Andrew Luck 99.4
8. Drew Brees 98.1
9. Kyle Orton 96.2
10. Carson Palmer 95.6
11. Ryan Tannehill 93.4
12. Russell Wilson/Jay Cutler 93.0
14. Alex Smith 92.7
15. Joe Flacco/Matt Ryan 92.6
17. Colin Kaepernick 92.1
18. Eli Manning 88.0
19. Ryan Fitzpatrick 87.1
20. Mark Sanchez 86.8
21. Zach Mettenberger 86.7
22. Kirk Cousins 86.4
23. Robert Griffin III 85.7
24. Austin Davis 85.1
25. Andy Dalton 83.4
26. Mike Glennon 83.3
27. Brian Hoyer 82.3
28. Nick Foles 81.4
29. Matthew Stafford 81.0
30. Cam Newton/EJ Manuel 80.3
32. Drew Stanton 79.0
33. Josh McCown 77.9
34. Derek Carr 76.7
35. Jake Locker 75.9
36. Teddy Bridgewater 75.7
37. Blake Bortles 70.8
38. Michael Vick 68.3
39. Geno Smith 67.4

 

[SDCowboy]

Romo's third in QBR also.

 

[Texas_Pete]

Great find. Romo killing it. Wish he had a good OL during his first few years. I'm convinced he would have played like he is now YEARS ago.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

All I see is a bunch of inflation... even Krappernick is sitting on 92.1, which before this year was considered a very good rating.

You got quarterbacks throwing 6TDs in two games in a row, 6TDs in one half, all against hapless defenses. QBs throwing 1 yard touchdowns on first down, where in the past Troy or Roger would just hand off to the back. QB rating is still a good blunt tool, but you definitely have to be careful with it.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

All I see is a bunch of inflation... even Krappernick is sitting on 92.1, which before this year was considered a very good rating.

You got quarterbacks throwing 6TDs in two games in a row, 6TDs in one half, all against hapless defenses. QBs throwing 1 yard touchdowns on first down, where in the past Troy or Roger would just hand off to the back. QB rating is still a good blunt tool, but you definitely have to be careful with it.

It's all relative. Why do you care so much? You should only care about cross generation comparisons.

Also check qbr if you hate qb rating.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

A few things that's surprising:

QB ratings have gone up about 20 points over the past 20 years. It used to be a QB rating in the 90's was at the top of the league. Now half the starters in the league are above 90.

Zach Mettenberger is looking like the best of this rookie class based on QB rating. Does Tennessee draft QB early?

The Jets QB situation is pathetic.

The best QBs in the NFC East list looks like: 1-10) Romo, 11) Eli, 12) Sanchez, 13) Cousins, 14) RG3, 15) Foles.

The top 8 looks very expected. If you were to ask anyone any given year who the top 8 QBs are, it would match the list.

Orton is having a pretty good season. We'd be 10-1 if we kept him.

Dalton is having another horrible season yet his team is in 1st place as usual.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

It's all relative. Why do you care so much? You should only care about cross generation comparisons.

Also check qbr if you hate qb rating.

Because it's not always relative. It's slanted to playing a certain way, which is not always the only way to be effective.

 

[DoctorChicken]

Here I sit, scouring the internet, watching the haters try to find something to hate on. "Romo chokes" is dead at the moment, with his comebacks and whatnot, so "Romo sucks" seems to be the main tidbit of hate.

It's funny, the people who blame anything bad that has happened with this team over the past 10 years on Romo. It's funny and sad.

I'm glad Tony Romo is our QB.

 

[SDCowboy]

Because it's not always relative. It's slanted to playing a certain way, which is not always the only way to be effective.

Ok well, again, Romo is third in QBR which isn't relative to play style.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Because it's not always relative. It's slanted to playing a certain way, which is not always the only way to be effective.

Normally I'd agree with you that QB ratings are inflated and QBs play to stuff their stats. But Romo is playing like an old school QB and still has a high rating. He has 1,122 fewer yards than the league leader and 12 fewer TDs, yet he still has a 111.4 QB rating. The stat seems to reward efficiency as well, not just stats, because numbers-wise this is one of Romo's worst seasons.

 

[percyhoward]

Numbers-wise this is one of Romo's worst seasons.

Again, yards don't correlate to wins in this league.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Again, yards don't correlate to wins in this league.

I know. I was saying you don't need huge numbers (yards and TDs) to be an efficient QB. Romo has fewer yards and TDs than most seasons, but he's having possibly his best season. And his QB rating has been rewarded for it, unlike the other poster who said QB ratings are for stat stuffers.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Wish someone at ESPN would post this on SportsCenter or NFL Gameday.

 

[percyhoward]

I know. I was saying you don't need huge numbers (yards and TDs) to be an efficient QB. Romo has fewer yards and TDs than most seasons, but he's having possibly his best season. And his QB rating has been rewarded for it, unlike the other poster who said QB ratings are for stat stuffers.

Oh, OK. QB rating is nothing more than completion percentage, yards per attempt, TD%, and INT%. It was developed because passing yards don't tell you who the best QB was in a particular season. In garbage time situations, the average pass rating actually goes down, not up, so you're absolutely right that it isn't for stat stuffers.

 

[Kevinicus]

I know. I was saying you don't need huge numbers (yards and TDs) to be an efficient QB. Romo has fewer yards and TDs than most seasons, but he's having possibly his best season. And his QB rating has been rewarded for it, unlike the other poster who said QB ratings are for stat stuffers.

Actually his TD pace is one of the best of his career. He's on pace for over 32 TDs and if he hadn't missed time, would probably be on pace for over 35 (36 is his career high).

 

[SibannacRex]

9. Kyle Orton 96.2

Impressive until you see this.

 

[percyhoward]

There are some peculiar posts in this thread reacting as if Romo at #2 were something to be taken with a grain of salt.

Pass rating was created out of the search for a passing stat that correlated strongly to wins. What they came up with turns out to have the strongest correlation of any individual stat.

If your QB sits at #2 in the entire league eleven games into the season, he's having a great year. Period.

 

[tecolote]

There are some peculiar posts in this thread reacting as if Romo at #2 were something to be taken with a grain of salt.

Pass rating was created out of the search for a passing stat that correlated strongly to wins. What they came up with turns out to have the strongest correlation of any individual stat.

If your QB sits at #2 in the entire league eleven games into the season, he's having a great year. Period.

Exactly. I find QB rating to be a pretty telling stat, if I ask you right now who the top 8 QBs in the NFL off the top of your head, I bet most of them, if not all, are on the top 8 of QB rating.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Exactly. I find QB rating to be a pretty telling stat, if I ask you right now who the top 8 QBs in the NFL off the top of your head, I bet most of them, if not all, are on the top 8 of QB rating.

Yep. I said the same thing. It's no surprise that the top 8 on the QB rating list are the top 8 QBs over the past decade (well, not including Luck):

In no particular order:
Peyton
Brady
Brees
Rodgers
Romo
Rivers
Ben
Luck

 

[percyhoward]

I've posted and updated this list many times.

Pass Rating
6+ Seasons Among Top 10
(adjusted for era)
Peyton Manning (14) 1999-2010, 2012-13
Joe Montana (12) 1980-85, 87-90, 93-94
Fran Tarkenton (11) 1964, 67-70, 72-77
Dan Marino (11) 1983-87, 90-92, 94-96
Tom Brady (11) 2001-07, 09-12
Johnny Unitas (10) 1956-60, 63-67
Brett Favre (10) 1992, 94-97, 2001, 03, 04, 07, 09
Sammy Baugh (9) 1937, 40-45, 47, 49
Y.A. Tittle (8) 1948, 52-54, 57, 61-63
Len Dawson (8) 1962-68, 71
Ken Anderson (8) 1973-75, 77, 79, 81-83
Dan Fouts (8) 1978-85
Steve Young (8) 1991-98
Ben Roethlisberger (8) 2004-05, 07, 09-13
Drew Brees (8) 2004-06, 08-09, 11-13
Otto Graham (7) 1947, 49-53, 55
Charlie Conerly (7) 1948, 52, 54, 55-57, 59
Norm Van Brocklin (7) 1950-53, 55, 59-60
Bob Griese (7) 1968, 71, 73-74, 76-78
Roger Staubach (7) 1971, 73, 75-79
Mark Brunell (7) 1996-98, 2000-02, 06
Tony Romo (7) 2006-09, 11-13
Sonny Jurgensen (6) 1961, 64, 66-67, 69-70
John Hadl (6) 1964-67, 70, 73
Terry Bradshaw (6) 1975, 77-79, 81-82
Dave Krieg (6) 1983-84, 86-88, 91
Troy Aikman (6) 1991-95, 98
Kurt Warner (6) 1999-2001, 07-09
Aaron Rodgers (6) 2008-13

At the bottom, (6's and 7's) you've got a mix of Hall of Famers, destined-to-be Hall of Famers, a few guys who basically got there by playing forever, and Romo. Make up your own category for Romo. When you move up into the 8's and higher, that static goes away and you're in rarefied air.