Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Nexx, May 7, 2022.
Dak isn't a tier 2 QB.
It’s funny how the media appears to be turning on Dak after he got paid. I seem to remember when the Cowboys franchised him the media had him as a top 5 quarterback and the Joneses were being cheap. Now that he is paid Dak is an average quarterback.
His MVP season 2019.
Disagree with a few, but I'm sure you would do the same if I made a list.
Good effort and pretty close to what I would do.
If they use him correctly Dak can be top 5. If they keep him in the pocket he'll be out of the league in 2 seasons.
He won’t be out the league that’s a stretch. Cooper Rush is in the league but Dak won’t be lol?
Argh its a week after the draft....it must be time for....Dak threads.
Dont care, he's here for two (possibly 3) more years. Move on, the contract's signed.
And those two running backs put up almost identical numbers to our two running backs last season, so that would somewhat be a wash in this case.
Dillon/Jones 1,602 yards on 358 carries (4.47 ypc) 9TDs. 704 receiving yards on 86 receptions (8.18 ypc) 8TDs.
Elliott/Pollard 1,721 yards on 367 carries (4.69 ypc) 12 TDs. 624 receiving yards on 86 receptions (7.26 ypc) 2 TDs.
Both QBs lost in the playoffs partly because the 49ers stopped those duos (67 yards rushing for GB to 77 for Dal). So there's that.
As for the ranking, I don't have too much of a problem with it but I do agree that tier should be split in two. No way several of those QBs (Hurts, Winston, etc.) are on the same level as the Dak and others.
I don't agree on Jackson being a Franchise QB. exciting. makes a lot of runs. but gets easily neutralized in post season. I don't like RBs mascarading as QBs.
Also, don't like Watson in the franchise QBs. he got two raises and top 3 type money, having not played a single snap in almost two years. he is a myth more than reality at this point.
Also, not sure why Ryan is in tier 2....superbowl is years ago. he hasn't done anything to establish himself and has been quite average past few years.
b I had Dak at about 9-10 range.
I wouldn't put him in Tier 4, that's a wild bunch. I mean Winston...really....that fool...Tua sucks way more than Dak...imagine if he played here.
In 2019, Jameis Winston came in 2nd.
You're an emotional wreck.
I seldom agree with any of his "click on me" observations and this is no different. He and Florio are always looking for attention.
You lost with Watson in Tier 2, for now he belongs in Tier 3 easily. Your take on burrow is off also. Watson has done crap taking his team any further in the playoffs that Dak has done. But yet Burrow takes his team to the SB in year 2. He completely turned that team around. I am not saying Dak needs to be in Tier 2, but pretty dang close if you have Watson in there.
Your " * " logic at the bottom makes no sense and does not follow the Watson / Burrow ranking.
Basically this is your opinion, but that part I disagree with.
He was a 4th round, feel good story, only got a shot because of injuries, and an overachiever.
When you get paid expectations change.
It's been 6 years and he's still chasing the ghosts of his rookie season. Instead of whining about how others and media expect more from him you should be asking yourself and your buddies here why you guys are satisfied with his play.
Every QB ever. People act like having s good team is a slight on the qb. It's a TEAM game!
People really get hypocritical on the Dak discussion when they list guys like Watson in front of him. Literally the same complaints people have about Dak(lack of playoff success) can be said about Watson except Dak has never had a LOST 12 GAMES in a season.
EXACTLY lol. Like a QB year in and out takes a bad coaching staff and bad roster to the playoffs lol. It just doesn't happen.
I’ve seen Watson play at a high level for years. His rookie season was amazing. He followed it up multiple times, including his last in 2020 when he set records.
We’ve seen Burrow complete a single Kirk-Cousins-esque regular season as a tier 3 QB. He was heavily dependent on Chase, he led the league in sacks (not entirely his fault), he lost a lot of games that were close late where he had a chance to do something and came up short. Remember this was a 7 loss team, it’s not like he was dominating the league last year; he simply did better than Pittsburgh to eek out the division.
Yes he made the SB, but so did Garropolo, so did Goff. Is that an automatic Tier 2 qualifier? Of course not. Their defense carried them through that playoff run. Burrow had 5 TDs in 4 games, never scored 30, won a game where he couldn’t even score 20, with a single performance over 265 yards. It was impressive for a second year player to handle the situation like that, just like it was impressive when Goff did it.