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[Doomsday101]

If Felix doesn't at least split carries with Barber then Felix is just a nice complementary player.

Good to have, but you don't gush over complementary players IMO. And Westbrook is no complementary player. He is a feature back.

Barber, to me, is a complementary player. I know he was injured last year and lets say that for his benefit it was freak and not a predictable and recurring result of his style. But last year I think confirmed that Barber is not a feature back, but a complementary player.

For all the hype from fans and the org itself about Felix I'm expecting them to give him the touches that justify the hype. And yet I have a sneaky feeling they will not.

True but Westbrook also plays in a WCO Jones does not. Felix I think will get ample touches both running and recieving but given the fact we do have Barber Dallas will not have to lean on Jones as much as Philly does Westbrook. To me in the end it is all about winning not hype if we are winning and Felix is contributing then that is what matters

 

[CoCo]

Well, I'm suspect #1 for not laying out stats and I'm respectfully not going to do so now. It's not something which I am customarily into doing.

However, I will say two things. Jones can put up respectable numbers which could parlay into big dividends for the offense without matching or exceeding Westbrook like numbers. And unless some fans (I'm not stating that you agree with them) get their wish, Jones would also have to overcome the obstacle of not being the starter. Westbrook is. It's not impossible, but it's more difficult for a fully productive sub to match a fully productive starter at any position.

If Felix remains second fiddle to Barber, then I think Felix is over-hyped. Barber is not a great RB. I love him as a complement. I love the character and charisma he provides for the team. But Marian Barber is not a gifted enough back to keep a great RB behind him on the bench.

And if that is where Felix remains, then in the coaches eyes they have concluded he is not a great back IMO.

 

[sureletsrace]

Predict his 2009 regular season stats.

Rushing
Yards from Scrimmage = 10 touches per game times 16 games times 5.6 yards per carry = 896yds
Yards Per Carry = 5.6yds
# TD's = 6

Receiving
Yards from Scrimmage = 3 catches per game times 16 games times 11.2 yards per catch = 537yds
Yards per Reception = 11.2yds
# TD's = 7

Return Yardage
Average Yards per KO Return = 29.1yds
# KO Return TD's = 2

Take it to the bank.

 

[CoCo]

True but Westbrook also plays in a WCO Jones does not. Felix I think will get ample touches both running and recieving but given the fact we do have Barber Dallas will not have to lean on Jones as much as Philly does Westbrook. To me in the end it is all about winning not hype if we are winning and Felix is contributing then that is what matters

I totally agree that its about winning. And I honestly don't know how much load Felix can carry. I'm only saying that the guy gets a tremendous amount of hype if he ends up with only 10 touches a game which is about what I expect the coaches will give him. Barber I expect to get around 15.

Westbrook has averaged about 21 touches per game from scrimmage in the last 5 years.

Again, I don't know how good Felix can be. I think we're all very interested to find out. I like him. But I'm not ga-ga like some seem to be. Not until we see what he can produce weekly.

 

[Doomsday101]

I totally agree that its about winning. And I honestly don't know how much load Felix can carry. I'm only saying that the guy gets a tremendous amount of hype if he ends up with only 10 touches a game which is about what I expect the coaches will give him. Barber I expect to get around 15.

Westbrook has averaged about 21 touches per game from scrimmage in the last 5 years.

Again, I don't know how good Felix can be. I think we're all very interested to find out. I like him. But I'm not ga-ga like some seem to be. Not until we see what he can produce weekly.

I understand but if he is only getting 10 carries a game along with 5 catches a game but is making game breaking big plays to me that is what matters. To me it is not about how many times you got the ball but what did you do with the opportunities that came your way. Personally I’m excited about what Felix brings to the table for this team.

 

[alohawg]

The higher you put a man on a pedestal, the less the odds he will actually reach those heights and the more you set yourself up for a disappointment.
I love this kid but I try to remain realistic, he's good, really good but he is not accomplished....yet.
I'm also afraid to make predictions like this, I don't want to jinx the young man. Instead I prefer to say let's just appreciate his talent and contributions to the team, wish him the best like all Cowboys and just enjoy the show.

 

[Doomsday101]

The higher you put a man on a pedestal, the less the odds he will actually reach those heights and the more you set yourself up for a disappointment.
I love this kid but I try to remain realistic, he's good, really good but he is not accomplished....yet.
I'm also afraid to make predictions like this, I don't want to jinx the young man. Instead I prefer to say let's just appreciate his talent and contributions to the team, wish him the best like all Cowboys and just enjoy the show.

In the end your right but what I do see in Felix that was not showing with J. Jones is how Felix runs behind his blocks be it to the inside or outside and once he sees day light the guy can hit that extra gear. So yes I have a lot of confidence in his ability to be a big play hitter for Dallas

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

I'm going to have to go with over 9000 for all questions.

 

[JD_KaPow]

Rushing
Yards from Scrimmage = 576
Yards per Carry = 4.8
Carries per Game = 7.5
# TD's = 5

Receiving
Yards from Scrimmage = 560
Yards per Reception = 10
Receptions per Game = 3.5
# TD's = 3

Return Yardage
Average Yards per KO Return = 26
# KO Return TD's = 1

 

[JonJon]

The higher you put a man on a pedestal, the less the odds he will actually reach those heights and the more you set yourself up for a disappointment.
I love this kid but I try to remain realistic, he's good, really good but he is not accomplished....yet.
I'm also afraid to make predictions like this, I don't want to jinx the young man. Instead I prefer to say let's just appreciate his talent and contributions to the team, wish him the best like all Cowboys and just enjoy the show.

Who invited Buzz Killington to the party?

 

[alohawg]

Who invited Buzz Killington to the party?

Lol....I just get nervous with threads like this. It's the old 'under promise and over deliver' thing in a sense. Believe me, I am a huge Felix fan, I'm a hog fan for pete's sake and a Cowboy since '69-'70. I was all excited last year before Jones injury and then the Philly game.....I just hope the team is fortunate to stay healthy, Garrett uses all our weapons wisely and in the end Dallas finishes with #6 in hand.

 

[CoCo]

Rushing
Yards from Scrimmage = 576
Yards per Carry = 4.8
Carries per Game = 7.5
# TD's = 5

Receiving
Yards from Scrimmage = 560
Yards per Reception = 10
Receptions per Game = 3.5
# TD's = 3

Return Yardage
Average Yards per KO Return = 26
# KO Return TD's = 1

This is my gut feel for the high-end average the staff has planned for Felix. I'll absolutely take it. But if this is his production then lets face it, he'll be a nice complement but those numbers aren't going to get one near a Pro Bowl.

It just feels like such a disconnect for me between alleged talent and resulting production.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Predict his 2009 regular season stats.

Rushing
Yards from Scrimmage = 879
Yards Per Carry = 5.6
# TD's = 8

Receiving
Yards from Scrimmage = 657
Yards per Reception = 14.6
# TD's = 6

Return Yardage
Average Yards per KO Return = 29.6
# KO Return TD's = 3

Holla

 

[texbumthelife]

Predict his 2009 regular season stats.

Rushing
Yards from Scrimmage = 800
Yards Per Carry = 4.6
# TD's = 8

Receiving
Yards from Scrimmage = 400
Yards per Reception = 8.2
# TD's = 3

Return Yardage
Average Yards per KO Return = 27
# KO Return TD's = 2

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Hmm can we say "little Marshall Faulk..."

 

[jchap]

First I am going to assume they start Felix and that the average starting field position is the 45 yard line (more on this later!).

I assume they will always hand it to him on first down, and that every time they do he will take it to the house, thus he will average 55 ypc. Scoring this quickly will lead to lots of possessions; and he may get tired from running 55 yards multiple times per game so at some point he will need to take a break. I'll estimate he will have enough energy to score 10 times a game in this manner before he gets tired/bored and lets Marion in the game. Totaling up his yardage on the season is simple: 10*16*55 = 8800 yards.

He won't have any receptions as there will be no need to throw the ball.

Knowing felix will score inevitibly, the other team will probably resort to nothing but onside kick offs to try and mitigate the damage. This is where the 45 yard line starting field position comes from.

That's my unbiased and logical take on the matter.

 

[texbumthelife]

First I am going to assume they start Felix and that the average starting field position is the 45 yard line (more on this later!).

I assume they will always hand it to him on first down, and that every time they do he will take it to the house, thus he will average 55 ypc. Scoring this quickly will lead to lots of possessions; and he may get tired from running 55 yards multiple times per game so at some point he will need to take a break. I'll estimate he will have enough energy to score 10 times a game in this manner before he gets tired/bored and lets Marion in the game. Totaling up his yardage on the season is simple: 10*16*55 = 8800 yards.

He won't have any receptions as there will be no need to throw the ball.

Knowing felix will score inevitibly, the other team will probably resort to nothing but onside kick offs to try and mitigate the damage. This is where the 45 yard line starting field position comes from.

That's my unbiased and logical take on the matter.

They said Felix Jones, not Beuhler! Reading comprehension?

 

[JD_KaPow]

First I am going to assume they start Felix and that the average starting field position is the 45 yard line (more on this later!).

I assume they will always hand it to him on first down, and that every time they do he will take it to the house, thus he will average 55 ypc. Scoring this quickly will lead to lots of possessions; and he may get tired from running 55 yards multiple times per game so at some point he will need to take a break. I'll estimate he will have enough energy to score 10 times a game in this manner before he gets tired/bored and lets Marion in the game. Totaling up his yardage on the season is simple: 10*16*55 = 8800 yards.

He won't have any receptions as there will be no need to throw the ball.

Knowing felix will score inevitibly, the other team will probably resort to nothing but onside kick offs to try and mitigate the damage. This is where the 45 yard line starting field position comes from.

That's my unbiased and logical take on the matter.

Your logic is impeccable, but you're forgetting one crucial fact. Each of those TD runs will actually be 65 yards, as they will each follow two Flozell Adams false starts. So that's another 1600 yards, comfortably pushing Felix past the 10,000 yard mark for the season.

 

[sonnyboy]

I want something special. I want to be amazed. And I want the whole league and it's fans envious.
The guy averaged 8 plus yards a carry in College and 8 plus yards in limited action last year. Maybe he truely is special.

With that thought I'll give you what I see as a just barely realistic best case senario as I see it.
And ya, I have him on my fantasy team to. Starting him week one.


Predict his 2009 regular season stats.

Rushing
Attempts = 240
Yards from Scrimmage = 1560
Yards Per Carry = 6.5
# TD's = 10

Receiving
Receptions = 64
Yards from Scrimmage = 768
Yards per Reception = 12.0
# TD's = 6

Return Yardage = ?
Average Yards per KO Return = 28.0
# KO Return TD's = 4

 

[lurkercowboy]

I love Felix thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis much.